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[gyuuniku]

omegamantis113 wrote...

I love when campers camp during objective waves. Nothing like soloing a pizza delivery with banshees and phantoms tag teaming you.

^^ this seems to be the recurring theme of these games

Camping is a valid strategy.  I just have a hard time, from my perspective, understanding the logic behind it.  I do 12 to 18 minutes non-camp Glacier runs with Cerberus, you just need 2 decent players and 2 fodders who are a bit short of down syndrome.  That's why I can't wrap my head around why people pick Geth Glacier or Geth White.  It's considerably harder and it takes half an hour.

[whatsdafus]

^ im one of the guys thats a bit short of downs.....

[codename2o2]

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

I don't even play platinum, but I love how people think they can tell others how to "Properly" play.

I like how someone who doesnt play plat can then tell others how to porperly post

ironic no?

It's ironic that someone who obviously doesn't like how others are playing can't find people on this board who play similarly to circumvent their own frustration instead of making a thread insulting those who like to play a certain way that will almost surely attract flame and hate instead of solving their problem.

[Father Giliam]

Am I the only one getting a strong vibe that the OP loves CoD and thinks thats how real combat is?

[gyuuniku]

brokenmotors wrote...

I have found the opposite. Roving death squads are fun, but sometimes it's fun to setup a defensive line with overlapping LOS, fallback positions, etc.

Can't seem to find anything but the former.

Host Rio plats if that's your thing

[jfruelas521]

Lol. Is it tough to see the rest of us mere mortals from up there on your high horse?

[whatsdafus]

Father Giliam wrote...

Am I the only one getting a strong vibe that the OP loves CoD and thinks thats how real combat is?

your vib is completely wrong... i never played a second of cod. 

But let me counter your camping lovefest... when is the last time you sat and camped for 30 minutes on SP?

[whatsdafus]

codename2o2 wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

I don't even play platinum, but I love how people think they can tell others how to "Properly" play.

I like how someone who doesnt play plat can then tell others how to porperly post

ironic no?

It's ironic that someone who obviously doesn't like how others are playing can't find people on this board who play similarly to circumvent their own frustration instead of making a thread insulting those who like to play a certain way that will almost surely attract flame and hate instead of solving their problem.

this forum hosts 3 platforms..... some are people i can connect with here but cant play with in game. 

btw, i was talking random pug matches


also... wasnt insulting them... i suggested we make frap videos to help teach them how to play correctly

Modifié par whatsdafus, 27 août 2012 - 07:25 .

[Chriz Tah Fah]

whatsdafus wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Am I the only one getting a strong vibe that the OP loves CoD and thinks thats how real combat is?

your vib is completely wrong... i never played a second of cod. 

But let me counter your camping lovefest... when is the last time you sat and camped for 30 minutes on SP?

SP is linear and you have a clear spot that you need to get to. If you don't move in SP, you don't win. This is not the case for MP. You can easily sit in one spot and win, no movement required.

On gold I always run around but on platinum it is definitely easier to stay in one designated area. Not to mention that the group of players who managed a 10 minute glacier platinum round were borderline camping.

[NuclearTech76]

Star fury wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Or good players that can't be bothered to use consumables.

Nope.

LOL. So if I run around and nuke every spawn point on the board and kill everything people consider me farming and now if I camp on a certain board people consider me a farmer. So good strategy makes you a farmer? I guess a roving death squad of characters with synergy is also farming?

[whatsdafus]

jfruelas521 wrote...

Lol. Is it tough to see the rest of us mere mortals from up there on your high horse?

its 2012... who uses horses?

[jfruelas521]

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

I don't even play platinum, but I love how people think they can tell others how to "Properly" play.

I like how someone who doesnt play plat can then tell others how to porperly post

ironic no?

It's ironic that someone who obviously doesn't like how others are playing can't find people on this board who play similarly to circumvent their own frustration instead of making a thread insulting those who like to play a certain way that will almost surely attract flame and hate instead of solving their problem.

this forum hosts 3 platforms..... some are people i can connect with here but cant play with in game. 

btw, i was talking random pug matches


also... wasnt insulting them... i suggested we make frap videos to help teach them how to play correctly

Your team needs to be well coordinated if you want to run around on platinum.  Most pugs are not well coordinated.  Hence the camping.  

[GhastonGrey]

gyuuniku wrote...

brokenmotors wrote...

I have found the opposite. Roving death squads are fun, but sometimes it's fun to setup a defensive line with overlapping LOS, fallback positions, etc.

Can't seem to find anything but the former.

Host Rio plats if that's your thing

Lol...I appreciate your confidence in my ability. 

But perhaps I should learn to up the difficulty to where tactics matters (more)

[Zaidra]

whatsdafus wrote...

 I don't understand them....


Sit in a spot for 30 mins while **** slowly walks to you.  Hide behind a wall.  How N7 like!


Im tired of plat runs on glacier whereas soon as the game loads, 1 to 2 morons make a bee line for the control room.  We need to start frap'ing games on how to play MP without cowering in a corner

Efficiency over class. 

As one of the "grunts" from Red vs Blue said, and I quote....

"it's a legitimate strategy!!!!"


Don't get me wrong, I'm quite good at running around on gold (maybe not platinum, but still gold). But the problem is that most random squadmates are not. You just can't count on some of the other morons that play this game to actually be good at it, which is why often I'm limited to camping.

Modifié par Zaidra, 27 août 2012 - 07:28 .

[Iceburg Slim Jr]

@ OP, how have campers affected you to the point you feel inclined to complain about it on the BSN?

Modifié par Iceburg Slim Jr, 27 août 2012 - 07:28 .

[whatsdafus]

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Am I the only one getting a strong vibe that the OP loves CoD and thinks thats how real combat is?

your vib is completely wrong... i never played a second of cod. 

But let me counter your camping lovefest... when is the last time you sat and camped for 30 minutes on SP?

SP is linear and you have a clear spot that you need to get to. If you don't move in SP, you don't win. This is not the case for MP. You can easily sit in one spot and win, no movement required.

On gold I always run around but on platinum it is definitely easier to stay in one designated area. Not to mention that the group of players who managed a 10 minute glacier platinum round were borderline camping.

you are incoorect.  the time it takes for you campers to win 11 rounds... roving already has beating 2 games. 

it is not easier to sit in one spot, nor is it fun...  growing blood clots is more fun then sitting in one spot. 

[whatsdafus]

Iceburg Slim Jr wrote...

how have campers affected you to the point you feel inclined to complain about it on the BSN?

let me count...

too many

[Zaidra]

whatsdafus wrote...

Iceburg Slim Jr wrote...

how have campers affected you to the point you feel inclined to complain about it on the BSN?

let me count...

too many

Howso? 

[DVS27t]

whatsdafus wrote...

 I don't understand them....


Sit in a spot for 30 mins while **** slowly walks to you.  Hide behind a wall.  How N7 like!


Im tired of plat runs on glacier whereas soon as the game loads, 1 to 2 morons make a bee line for the control room.  We need to start frap'ing games on how to play MP without cowering in a corner

COD forums called, they need your ass back STAT.

[gyuuniku]

codename2o2 wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

I don't even play platinum, but I love how people think they can tell others how to "Properly" play.

I like how someone who doesnt play plat can then tell others how to porperly post

ironic no?

It's ironic that someone who obviously doesn't like how others are playing can't find people on this board who play similarly to circumvent their own frustration instead of making a thread insulting those who like to play a certain way that will almost surely attract flame and hate instead of solving their problem.

It's ironic because it has nothing to do with "how" people like to play so much as a PERCEIVED lack of skills of the self.  You can say it's play-style all you want, but as long as you perceive yourself to be on that LEVEL you will never taste the drive to pursue something different.  Of course, I'm speaking from one-sided experiences.  I started out from W/G/G and I thought that was alot of fun, but once I took a step out in doing something different or "challenging" I started to drift away from the routines.  Couple months later I landed on the GI/Piranha routine and was pissed about the nerfs, but I've also moved on from that.  That to me is a perceived progression, and many people will agree that it's only human to want to see other experience the same sense of progress rather than to stay in one spot. (no puns intended)

[whatsdafus]

DVS27t wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

 I don't understand them....


Sit in a spot for 30 mins while **** slowly walks to you.  Hide behind a wall.  How N7 like!


Im tired of plat runs on glacier whereas soon as the game loads, 1 to 2 morons make a bee line for the control room.  We need to start frap'ing games on how to play MP without cowering in a corner

COD forums called, they need your ass back STAT.

the 2nd page of this thread called... said read me for correct answers to the same **** someone else said

[Father Giliam]

whatsdafus wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Am I the only one getting a strong vibe that the OP loves CoD and thinks thats how real combat is?

your vib is completely wrong... i never played a second of cod. 

But let me counter your camping lovefest... when is the last time you sat and camped for 30 minutes on SP?

As I said, REAL combat. Real combat isnt HERP DERP KILL EM ALL while running around. Thats a good way to get killed. Combat in video games is vastly different for the purpose of fun.

If something works for someone, and they enjoy it, why should they stop? What makes you think you should be able to make everyone play how you like to? This is a prime example of the stance people take on farming aswell, and BioWare already clearly stated their stance on that, "its an effective stradegy," aswell as saying nothings wrong with it.

Also, to counter your counter, at what point in the SP do you find yourself facing wave after wave of enemies? You dont, apart from the last mission 2 seperate times, both of which are much easier and shorter then the MP.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 27 août 2012 - 07:33 .

[whatsdafus]

gyuuniku wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

I don't even play platinum, but I love how people think they can tell others how to "Properly" play.

I like how someone who doesnt play plat can then tell others how to porperly post

ironic no?

It's ironic that someone who obviously doesn't like how others are playing can't find people on this board who play similarly to circumvent their own frustration instead of making a thread insulting those who like to play a certain way that will almost surely attract flame and hate instead of solving their problem.

It's ironic because it has nothing to do with "how" people like to play so much as a PERCEIVED lack of skills of the self.  You can say it's play-style all you want, but as long as you perceive yourself to be on that LEVEL you will never taste the drive to pursue something different.  Of course, I'm speaking from one-sided experiences.  I started out from W/G/G and I thought that was alot of fun, but once I took a step out in doing something different or "challenging" I started to drift away from the routines.  Couple months later I landed on the GI/Piranha routine and was pissed about the nerfs, but I've also moved on from that.  That to me is a perceived progression, and many people will agree that it's only human to want to see other experience the same sense of progress rather than to stay in one spot. (no puns intended)

bingo!

i mean how can you enjoy sitting in a spot and say thats a game????

jesus, you camping guys mustve loved time outs in the corner when you were kids.

[Chriz Tah Fah]

whatsdafus wrote...

Chriz Tah Fah wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

Father Giliam wrote...

Am I the only one getting a strong vibe that the OP loves CoD and thinks thats how real combat is?

your vib is completely wrong... i never played a second of cod. 

But let me counter your camping lovefest... when is the last time you sat and camped for 30 minutes on SP?

SP is linear and you have a clear spot that you need to get to. If you don't move in SP, you don't win. This is not the case for MP. You can easily sit in one spot and win, no movement required.

On gold I always run around but on platinum it is definitely easier to stay in one designated area. Not to mention that the group of players who managed a 10 minute glacier platinum round were borderline camping.

you are incoorect.  the time it takes for you campers to win 11 rounds... roving already has beating 2 games. 

it is not easier to sit in one spot, nor is it fun...  growing blood clots is more fun then sitting in one spot. 

Record some footage of you beating platinum in 15 minutes or less then. I have not played in a platinum game with friends that has taken longer than 21 minutes.

[codename2o2]

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

whatsdafus wrote...

codename2o2 wrote...

I don't even play platinum, but I love how people think they can tell others how to "Properly" play.

I like how someone who doesnt play plat can then tell others how to porperly post

ironic no?

It's ironic that someone who obviously doesn't like how others are playing can't find people on this board who play similarly to circumvent their own frustration instead of making a thread insulting those who like to play a certain way that will almost surely attract flame and hate instead of solving their problem.

this forum hosts 3 platforms..... some are people i can connect with here but cant play with in game. 

btw, i was talking random pug matches


also... wasnt insulting them... i suggested we make frap videos to help teach them how to play correctly

Their PUG matches, you can't exactly expect them to be the most coordinated group ever.

And by "play correctly" You mean to say there's an "incorrect" way to play this game? There are dozens of ways to play this game across all maps. Not one of them is "Correct." It boils down to what works and what doesn't. If camping works, then why not use it? If running and gunning works, then by all means go for it. But you can't expect to use "teach them how to play correctly" without backlash from those you're trying to "teach"