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[Aerialight]

Are we talking about campers like glacier platty or camping in general?

Let me put it this way. if someone is sniping and can hold their own when something get's close to them, then that all great. It's people who sit back and biotic/electric slash for 25 minutes that makes me want to throw them in the light and watch the sun burn them.

[slab0meat]

[Father Giliam]

Star fury wrote...

Yes, both strategies are unrealistic. And you're hypocrite because you criticize only one strategy for it's unrealism.

I was never criticizing ramboing in a video game. I was making a speculation on a likely prefered game and his/her view on realistic combat. Ramboing is effective if you have the "skills" to do it in a game. If you can handle that, im all for it.

If you bothered to read my posts, youd see im criticizing his/her elitist view of "You have to play how I like to, otherwise you are bad and/or you should stop palying."

Modifié par Father Giliam, 27 août 2012 - 07:55 .

[Star fury]

bogsters23 wrote...

camping is a legitimate strategy and is situational. i still want to move around but sometimes when you are getting overrun, it is best to defend one position. this is a game you can not tell people how they want to play it.

[bogsters23]

Star fury wrote...

bogsters23 wrote...

camping is a legitimate strategy and is situational. i still want to move around but sometimes when you are getting overrun, it is best to defend one position. this is a game you can not tell people how they want to play it.

oh well, i've seen too many threads about this.  i know how to do speed runs and attack spawn points but you can not expect that much when playing with randoms and let them adjust to your playstyle.  i'll rather be a team player than be all over the map.

[Star fury]

Father Giliam wrote...

I was never criticizing ramboing in a video game. I was making a speculation on a likely prefered game and his/her view on realistic combat. Ramboing is effective if you have the "skills" to do it in a game. If you can handle that, im all for it.

I can agree with that. Playing actively is the optimal way to win fast and get maximum of credits.

Father Giliam wrote...
If you bothered to read my posts, youd see im criticizing his/her elitist view of "You have to play how I like to, otherwise you are bad and/or you should stop palying."

In your posts I read bizarre comparison with real combat and you completely missed a point. Criticizing proactive gameplay as unrealistic doesn't do you any favours. The point is that it's much more fun and much more effective way to play in most cases.

Modifié par Star fury, 27 août 2012 - 08:09 .

[Gethzilla-N7SP]

whatsdafus wrote...

 I don't understand them....


Sit in a spot for 30 mins while **** slowly walks to you.  Hide behind a wall.  How N7 like!


Im tired of plat runs on glacier whereas soon as the game loads, 1 to 2 morons make a bee line for the control room.  We need to start frap'ing games on how to play MP without cowering in a corner

However ...

Hardly a soldier who goes out there these open chest, reaches old enough to have some patent. They fight bravely, but they are not very smart. It is almost always easier to kill, after all, do not protect themselves.

In a war game, the first targets are not ordinary soldiers, are the campers. Just the guy who is hidden behind the wall with a weapon capable of blowing your brains out.

(BW was nice to put a laser on weapons of Nemesis!
Hey BW, how about creating a Geth Sniper, using a Javelin X? Instakill!)

What I mean is that each one has its perspective on the play style of the other. Between the lines, you can not consider that a camper is a coward, without taking into consideration that a camper can consider it a complete idiot. No offense.

In the end, it's just a matter of style, but both strategies are valid.

[Blarg]

Okay people, each to their own in terms of strategy. It's not like you absolutely have to play with campers, nor speed runners, nor those who play casually. How bad is it if you do end up in a game with someone using a different strategy than your own? You can leave, you can communicate, you can carry on with your strategy, or you can even adapt to theirs for the game. Either way, you have the option to have fun or gain easy credits, whichever suits you.
Alternatively, you can come to BSN and whine about your lack of ability to assume direct control over others' games and their play styles.

And for the record, I'm not taking sides, I'm just pointing out my opinion.

[BouncyFrag]

I fondly think of that room as "the nursery."

[Cyonan]

Never before have I seen so many people that are so offended by the strategy that people who aren't even in their games are using.

[Kenadian]

Star fury wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Star fury wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Or good players that can't be bothered to use consumables.

Nope.

It's funny because you're wrong. I camp sometimes, even ZOMG, FBWGG. I'm a good player.

Maybe you are, maybe not. Still I won't play with you in camping game, I prefer active gameplay - it's shorter and it's much more fun.

Generally it is. Sometimes I don't like to be out in the open it sometimes it's amusing to see a Banshee rendered powerless by a ****ing waist-high desk.

[Father Giliam]

Star fury wrote...

 much more fun 

Fun is subjective. Point invalid.

Star fury wrote...

In your posts I read bizarre comparison with real combat and you completely missed a point. Criticizing proactive gameplay as unrealistic doesn't do you any favours.

 

One post. It was more of to poke at his/her view that everyone should rambo.

Modifié par Father Giliam, 27 août 2012 - 08:32 .

[steverw1975]

Tazzmission wrote...

Iceburg Slim Jr wrote...

why would you make this thread?

camping is for losers who suck imo


i really wish bioware would penalize those who camp

and I really wish losers like you would spend more time worrying about your own pathetic life and less time trying to tell other people what they're allowed to do. You're a troll. Go find yourself a bridge and leave the rest of us alone.

[Booshnickins]

Cyonan wrote...

Never before have I seen so many people that are so offended by the strategy that people who aren't even in their games are using.

I know right. People working together and using tactics to complete the game's objectives. Why it almost sounds like they're working cooperatively together. It's ironic that playing as a team and finding certain builds, weapons and locations that you and your friends can control is what a coop game is about. Yet if you do that in this coop game, people complain about it. Even worse, it seems BioWare is against people working as a team too.

[steverw1975]

Booshnickins wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Never before have I seen so many people that are so offended by the strategy that people who aren't even in their games are using.

I know right. People working together and using tactics to complete the game's objectives. Why it almost sounds like they're working cooperatively together. It's ironic that playing as a team and finding certain builds, weapons and locations that you and your friends can control is what a coop game is about. Yet if you do that in this coop game, people complain about it. Even worse, it seems BioWare is against people working as a team too.

Oh, but this allows "lesser" players to be every bit as successful as the "elite" players. Can't you see that must be stopped? If you don't play their way, you must suck. It's not like outthinking your enemy and luring them into a deathtrap that dramatically improves your odds of success is a valid strategy. Ask any soldier in real life. You're supposed to run over open space, get real close to the enemy, and pull out a short range weapon to take the fight to the enemy. Anything else is unmanly.

[Reddemon159]

TomSurman1 wrote...

It's a legitimate strategy!

It's the worlds greatest and most used strategy. Do you think any military force runs around in combat dodging bullets? 

I don't know about you but when deploy and I so happen to get into a combat situation. I'm going camp like no other and help my battle buddies survive.

[DinkumGem]

@OP. I hear Billy Goats are delicious!

[Devdhas]

Why do people keep comparing this to real war. Difference between real and fun, this is a video game, it is supposed to be fun. I personally don't see how paying $60 for a game to sit on your couch to sit behind a counter is "fun" but that's just me.

People who camp usually aren't skilled enough to run around, same way people like to sit in corners on fps games like cod. Usually when I get thrown into a FBWGG match I just run around and take all the kills and usually that forces them to run out to get kills.

[whatsdafus]

BouncyFrag wrote...

I fondly think of that room as "the nursery."

I love it!

[Cyonan]

steverw1975 wrote...

Oh, but this allows "lesser" players to be every bit as successful as the "elite" players. Can't you see that must be stopped? If you don't play their way, you must suck. It's not like outthinking your enemy and luring them into a deathtrap that dramatically improves your odds of success is a valid strategy. Ask any soldier in real life. You're supposed to run over open space, get real close to the enemy, and pull out a short range weapon to take the fight to the enemy. Anything else is unmanly.

To be perfectly fair, real life comparisons are poor at best due to the major difference in the reason as to why you play a video game vs why a soldier is at war.

I suppose if the rest is the actual reason though, then I have seen it before in a community. Quite often in the WoW one actually with people claiming that raiding was so much better in vanilla because it was hard(It really wasn't), and now all the "lesser" players can get their gear with purple text on it.

[TomSurman1]

Here's a shocking idea. How about you play the game the way you want to, and the rest of us will play the game the way we want to? Why does there have to be some big stink about it?

[Star fury]

Father Giliam wrote...
Fun is subjective. Point invalid.

Good. Now try again without skipping half of my sentence.

Father Giliam wrote...
One post. It was more of to poke at his/her view that everyone should rambo.

Nope. More than one.

[whatsdafus]

Reddemon159 wrote...

TomSurman1 wrote...

It's a legitimate strategy!

It's the worlds greatest and most used strategy. Do you think any military force runs around in combat dodging bullets? 

I don't know about you but when deploy and I so happen to get into a combat situation. I'm going camp like no other and help my battle buddies survive.

Bunkered down?  Air strike/drone strike called in...


So much for your real life strat

[neteng101]

This is ME3, not COD. OP must be confusing games.

In a cover shooter, you're supposed to use cover! Otherwise you're just doing it wrong.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Cover_system

[Chaoswind]

Hit and Run is 3 times safer (if everyone is doing it) than boyscout jimmy