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[Daihannya]

It all depends on the character for me. With a krogan/destroyer/infiltrator I will save you even if you are in a pack of enemies. With my glass builds like the Fury, sorry you are on your own if I see enemies hanging around you or the word Turrent next to your death.

[Venerable Vanguard of the Inviolable]

If I am playing kroguard I will get people up 99% of the time and I will make a good effort when playing other characters. Too many people instantly burn through medigel in the early rounds, I guess cause they're annoyed at going down, but it would be better keeping those for objective rounds. Oh, however, if people dont help in objective rounds then they dont get picked up.

[The Rainbow Reaper]

It really depends on who died and how many enemies are piled on his body. Usually its rare to find someone worth using a missile for. If the enemies are weak enough though, I'll usually try to clear the area for a teammate to rez them.

[Mystical_Gaming]

I always try to revive and do a pretty good job of surviving the incoming heat as well. I think my sig speaks for itself. I like to revive =)

[DullahansXMark]

I always save teammates if I can actually get to them in time and stop a curb-stomping. It doesn't matter what the hell gets in my way, because I just kick ass.

[Mylakhri0n]

Ashen Earth wrote...

etm125 wrote...

I used to revive no matter what (infiltrators job) but more and more i question it. 

It was never an Infiltrator's obligation to revive people.

Maybe no obligation, but it's a damn sight easier doing it under cloak that another class having to tough it out in the open.

I play Infiltrator mostly and I try to revive as a rule, given most of the proviso's listed above- the key one being don't get yourself downed doing a revive as it cripples the team.

I also try to call out when I'm going for a revive (or when I can't make it)- there is nothing more annoying than using a precious medigel only to stand up and see a team mate moving in for a revive!

[etm125]

Assumedkilla wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

etm125 wrote...

I used to revive no matter what (infiltrators job) but more and more i question it. 

It was never an Infiltrator's obligation to revive people.

They don't HAVE to, but if someone has cloak then they should be the ones to go after objectives and downed allies, since that goes hand and hand with their powers. Just like an adept should be doing crowd control since that's what most of their powers lend themselves to doing.

Since the TC nerf its become less of an obligation...but you're still clearly the best for the job. If you have the duration TC evo there's no reason not to. I can forgive GIs but when I see N7 shadows not reviving it makes me want to yell. 

[Vespervin]

I only revive those that deserve to be revived. If someone was downed because they rushed a group of Hunters or two Primes on their own then they can bleed out for all I care. But if they died and deserve to be revived, I'll go out of my way to revive them.

[Dup3r]

if there are lots of badguys (all things being equal) I clear the area with a missile.

Might as well, if they use a gel, they will get killed immediately so your team's consumables on the whole is wasted. If ti's near the round and we can polish off, don't bother. He'll be up at the end.

[IAmARad]

 I'm almost always the top player, so I get it from the perspective of, when I go down, I think that people not reviving me is usually just them being stupid/a bad teammate.  I understand if I'm on the other side of the map, but I usually make an effort for them, and it frustrates me not to get that in return, especially when I'm getting significantly more points than them and it's going to be a risk trying to finish the wave without me.

On the occasions where there is a person outscoring me, I'll usually try to "Rambo" revive them, as we seem to be calling it, for the exact reasons illustrated above.  Better I get him up and then use an ops pack, tackle the group together than he dies and I waste gels trying to clutch the wave.

[LP47]

starlitegirlx wrote...

LP47 wrote...

Sometimes I don't revive the rambo players and let them sit out a round as punishment...lol

I like to stick with the team or near it, but lately the team is not a team in these random matches. People head off in every directions, like a group of Rambos I guess. So then it's a choice between me shadowing and helping one, generally one of the better players because if they go down that could cost the team (kind of cruel but also the best logical choice for team success) or playing rambo as well. It's really hard to shadow better players sometimes. They move fast and are all over the place unless they are snipers in which case I find the next person since odds are they will stay safe. Decisions. Decisions....

I'm not sure what to suggest to you. Usually when I'm playing lower level difficulties I just go into it under the impression that bad things will happen. Plus I question whether or not these people are "good players" if they're not willing to use a gel and risk losing a game.

[Vinny68]

I had to choose last night to let the last guy bleed out or suicide run the last wave 10 pizza on Gold. Suffice it to say, we got paid but I felt bad about the choice.

[Veramocor]

etm125 wrote...

I used to revive no matter what (infiltrators job) but more and more i question it. If you have no chance of getting them up without going down on gold+ you can cause a chain revive clusterf*** because the other 2 teammates join in to save your ass.

If its an objective wave and they go down in a bad spot they better medigel.

I still think its hard with an infiltrator because of decloaking.  If you stayed cloaked it would be easy.

The ultimate reviver is the Krogan Vanguard. 1. 'Area' Charge to knock away any light-medium enemies*.  2. Revive.  3. Charge again to regain shields.

*(never ever charge banshee, make sure to kill phantom after charge)

During your revive you have 40% DR from barrier (depending on speccing) + 50% DR from charge for 5 seconds.  With shield modulator 3 and 90% DR you can revive anyone.

[born2beagator]

I will always make a beeline for a downed player. However if i am playing a squishy class I am a lot more cautions. Vorcha or infiltrator more often than not I will drop everything and go for the revive

[KAM12780]

I mostly play PUGs on silver. So I generally try to revive as much as I can. If they're on the other side of the map and a horde of enemies are coming at us, I don't even consider helping them. Also, on escort or pizza delivery, the rest of the team is off killing things and I'm the only one actually doing the objective, no I won't help you. Use your medigel or bleed out, it makes no difference to me. So I try to help everybody to the best of my ability, but when your playing like an idiot, I'll leave you for a decoy while I kill everything else!

[LP47]

I aslo play games under the impression that people have a full count of medigels and are willing to use them.

[r.anger]

If at all possible, reasonable...i'm not running into a turret but i'll give it a good effort against most things.

[Blarg]

 I'll do my best to revive everyone, though it occasionally gets me killed. I consider it a full time job when playing an infiltrator, especially on gold/platinum.

[FlowCytometry]

The naive helper in me feels the urge to revive anyone, rarely do I make a deliberate decision not to rez when I have the opportunity to, regardless of class (though duration infiltrators make it soo much easier to carry out it almost feels like an obligation). I tend to prefer support (tank/healer) roles in other games, so I guess its just what I like doing.. though I realize its not always the best decision

Modifié par FlowCytometry, 28 août 2012 - 02:07 .

[DragonRacer]

ASmoothCriminalx wrote...

"rambo players" hmm.. must be a term used to describe those who are not content with hiding behind a counter.

Kinda surprised nobody caught this earlier, but when people talk about a "Rambo player"... no, they are not talking about people not cowering behind the counters at Firebase White. What we're talking about is a team where three people are relatively close, while the fourth is off on the entire opposite side of the map trying to take on an entire platoon by themself... often leading to them dying waaaaaaaaaaaay far away for a revive, and often requiring one to run through said platoon they were formerly battling just to try and revive the goon.

As far as my response to the general question... depends on how far away the downed teammate is and how bad the enemy situation is over their corpse. I generally tend to run and revive first, ask questions later. This sometimes leads me into bad situations, but I usually can handle it even if it's sticky. But that is because I'm a tanky Turian Sentinel playing on Silver. For example, was in a room with friends earlier. One friend had a level 1 geth engineer. She went down during one of the later waves, and I ran to her. Ran right past the three pyros that were marching away from her corpse. LOL Detonated my tech armor to give us breathing room, revived her, spun around and shot Overload, then laid on the bullet pain. Came at the cost of an Ops Pack, though, or I would've likely gone down in the process. I would NOT expect to get away with that on Gold, for example. And I could have just as likely rounded that corner and run smack-dab into a Prime and his army of nasty minions.

So, very situational... but I tend to lean towards the "BANZAI!!!!" side of "I got you, bro!"

[Beerfish]

I understand the op and agree. I will go out of my way and risk more if the player who has gone down is really good. I will use a rocket if i have to.

[Beerfish]

Ashen Earth wrote...

etm125 wrote...

I used to revive no matter what (infiltrators job) but more and more i question it. 

It was never an Infiltrator's obligation to revive people.

Funny thing is that during the whole nerfing of infils threads, almost exclusively they all said that they were revivers and objective doers.

[GordianKnot42]

Always, always, always. Doesn't matter what class I'm playing. As long as my kamikaze paramedic activity doesn't jeopardize the entire mission (ie. I'm the only one left and there are still three consoles to hack), I love being all "Get to da choppaaaa!!!"