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ME3 Leviathan: SPOILER Discussion [poll included]


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#476
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Do some people have to be such trolls? Anyways, waiting on a Youtube video with the extra dialogue with the Catalyst.

Modifié par SoldierGryphon, 28 août 2012 - 03:55 .


#477
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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just walked into the Conduit. No changes.


I have a solution.

Lets Nuke Canada.




Seriously though Bioware has been on my boycott list ever since Extended Cut so this doesnt change much for me but Im hoping more of you will see that bioware doesnt deserve our money.

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Jull3 wrote...

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"Each formed in Harbinger's image"... retcons, they just simply love them. Instead of changing textures they retcon things. How lazy is that?


What exactly was retconed? We did know that all the reapers LOOKED like Harbinger. They functioned like Harbinger. The only differing ones are the destroyers, reaper ground forces, and the human reaper they tried to make it ME2. Probably can count a prothean reaper because they failed to make it.


ME2 ending... watch it.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just walked into the Conduit. No changes.


There wasn't any dialogue choice to expand upon things with the Catalyst? You're sure you combed through things? Quite odd, and it has me wondering if the DLC integrated with EC properly. That was in the leaked files, which while it certainly could have been stripped out for whatever reason before release, would seem rather strange since it's an easy go-to that confirms BioWare's Mike Gamble in his statement of "EC easter eggs" without altering the overall framework of the ending.

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just walked into the Conduit. No changes.


Cut to the chase, finish it, then tell us. Nobody wants a blow per blow account.

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So crustaceans will rise to rule the galaxy. Everyone start eating more lobsters.

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dreman9999 wrote...



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Seems like they try to reduce the hatred for the catalyst by changing him into a simple machine without own mentality.


If you payed attaition you would of seen the catalystas a shackled AI monts ago when ec came out. People have been saying it's a shackled AI for months. It's not that they are now saying it. They are now making it as bunt aspossible to understand.

so there just explaining it more? thats good because i admit even with the ec i still get a bit confused

#483
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Sarevok Synder wrote...

Jull3 wrote...


6. Yes except the blackhole thing...lol wut?


He's saying the war assets are meaningless, so Leviathan joins them in oblivion.


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Sarevok Synder wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just walked into the Conduit. No changes.


Cut to the chase, finish it, then tell us. Nobody wants a blow per blow account.


Speak for yourself, that statement of his was quite helpful for me in determining that there may be an issue with his file.

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I think Conduit = beam in London.

He hasn't reached the Starcrap, I mean Starbrat.

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mauro2222 wrote...

I think Conduit = beam in London.

He hasn't reached the Starcrap, I mean Starbrat.


Oh yeah, haha, ****, duh. Damn the series for having multiple "Conduits", I get them confused.

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JeffZero wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just walked into the Conduit. No changes.


There wasn't any dialogue choice to expand upon things with the Catalyst? You're sure you combed through things? Quite odd, and it has me wondering if the DLC integrated with EC properly. That was in the leaked files, which while it certainly could have been stripped out for whatever reason before release, would seem rather strange since it's an easy go-to that confirms BioWare's Mike Gamble in his statement of "EC easter eggs" without altering the overall framework of the ending.

I think he means he walked into the beam right after he got injured. He hasn't gotten to the Catalyst yet.

Unless something amazing happens, Bioware isn't getting my $10. Leviathan may be fun to play, but so far it does more harm than good to the story and in the end, is another worthless war asset that we don't need.

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Darth Asriel wrote...

Human beings are animals only in the most basic sense. We are however far beyond any animal on this planet. He makes that comparison to illustrate that calling him an AI is being simple minded. So your whole shackled theory is drowning in it's own sh!t.

I can just point to theleviathan dlc to show you it a literal intuprtation. It's shackled.
And that line it stated dose not mean it's not shackled. It just means it sees itself more than  a simple AI even if the basic defination for it is an AI.

So welcome to 5 months ago when it was first seen that it was shackled. Now it's an absoult fact.

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JeffZero wrote...

RiptideX1090 wrote...

Just walked into the Conduit. No changes.


There wasn't any dialogue choice to expand upon things with the Catalyst? You're sure you combed through things? Quite odd, and it has me wondering if the DLC integrated with EC properly. That was in the leaked files, which while it certainly could have been stripped out for whatever reason before release, would seem rather strange since it's an easy go-to that confirms BioWare's Mike Gamble in his statement of "EC easter eggs" without altering the overall framework of the ending.


Conduit is before Catalyst, doubt he's there yet. :wizard:

Edit: Eh, ninja'd

Modifié par SE JN, 28 août 2012 - 03:58 .


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mauro2222 wrote...

I think Conduit = beam in London.

He hasn't reached the Starcrap, I mean Starbrat.


this

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dreman9999 wrote...

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So Leviathan's War Asset entry proves that conventional victory can be possible, and that they could well be a threat in the future...

No. I just gives us a knew way to kill one reaperat a time. This still can't stop a fleet of them.


Organic space cuttlefish should mean that worlds that limted reapers were sent to are easily liberated. And then the remaining populations could be put towards the war effort.

Im still having problems figuring out how they lost to the kid in the first place unless Leviathans were limited in number to begin with. 

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JeffZero wrote...



Speak for yourself, that statement of his was quite helpful for me in determining that there may be an issue with his file.



There is no issue, no changes yet observed. Most likely, none at all.

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mauro2222 wrote...

Jull3 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

"Each formed in Harbinger's image"... retcons, they just simply love them. Instead of changing textures they retcon things. How lazy is that?


What exactly was retconed? We did know that all the reapers LOOKED like Harbinger. They functioned like Harbinger. The only differing ones are the destroyers, reaper ground forces, and the human reaper they tried to make it ME2. Probably can count a prothean reaper because they failed to make it.


ME2 ending... watch it.


Leviathan did mention that the Reapers perceive Shepard (and possibly humanity) as a threat . Harbinger was probably constructing a human reaper in the hope of defeating humanity that way .

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RiptideX1090 wrote...

mauro2222 wrote...

I think Conduit = beam in London.

He hasn't reached the Starcrap, I mean Starbrat.


this


Oh. *Puts away nuclear weapons and Final Solution speech*

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Tazzmission wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...



Bfler wrote...

Seems like they try to reduce the hatred for the catalyst by changing him into a simple machine without own mentality.


If you payed attaition you would of seen the catalystas a shackled AI monts ago when ec came out. People have been saying it's a shackled AI for months. It's not that they are now saying it. They are now making it as bunt aspossible to understand.

so there just explaining it more? thats good because i admit even with the ec i still get a bit confused

"If fire burn, is it at war, in conflit or doing what it's made to do...We are no different."
That line was the explination that it's shackled.

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Sarevok Synder wrote...

JeffZero wrote...



Speak for yourself, that statement of his was quite helpful for me in determining that there may be an issue with his file.



There is no issue, no changes yet observed. Most likely, none at all.


Well, I was getting the "Conduit" confused with the Catalyst conversation sequence, which the leaked Leviathan files clearly indicated has been expanded slightly with one new dialogue option to accommodate owners of the Leviathan DLC, that's all. While I was confused on the terminology, I was equally confused as to why he wasn't noticing that dialogue option.

I agree with you that there is very likely nothing else whatsoever.

#497
Sarevok Synder

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BlessedSoldier wrote...



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No, that oblivion would have given them meaning.

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Ranger1337 wrote...

Leviathan did mention that the Reapers perceive Shepard (and possibly humanity) as a threat . Harbinger was probably constructing a human reaper in the hope of defeating humanity that way .

Not that :pinched:

The final final part when Shep watchs to the beyond and the Reapers awaken and start their travel, there you have like 20 different reapers, some of them don't even ressemble a cuttlefish.

EDIT: For the love of Talos, I hate this system. There fixed.

Modifié par mauro2222, 28 août 2012 - 04:02 .


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[quote]JeffZero wrote...


There is no issue, no changes yet observed. Most likely, none at all.[/quote]

Well, I was getting the "Conduit" confused with the Catalyst conversation sequence, which the leaked Leviathan files clearly indicated has been expanded slightly with one new dialogue option to accommodate owners of the Leviathan DLC, that's all. While I was confused on the terminology, I was equally confused as to why he wasn't noticing that dialogue option.

I agree with you that there is very likely nothing else whatsoever.

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Most likely just staridiot blowing off Leviathans consequences, then saying, "pick a colour." Probably won't even give us an extra still at the end.

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Fawx9 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Ar7emis wrote...

So Leviathan's War Asset entry proves that conventional victory can be possible, and that they could well be a threat in the future...

No. I just gives us a knew way to kill one reaperat a time. This still can't stop a fleet of them.


Organic space cuttlefish should mean that worlds that limted reapers were sent to are easily liberated. And then the remaining populations could be put towards the war effort.

Im still having problems figuring out how they lost to the kid in the first place unless Leviathans were limited in number to begin with. 

Let add context here...Can the leviatheans fly, shoot beens from high above planets, rain down cannon fire, , have endless recourse, and need no rest?