1659 réponses à ce sujet

[Zu Long]

A quick rundown of my thoughts on Leviathan-

Likes-

-Yay crew interaction! One of my biggest complaints about Overlord/LOTSB/Arrival is that Shepard's crew was pretty incidental to the plot in all of them. When they were present, their job was mostly to stand there. So I appreciated the fact that in this one there was a lot more of a presence to the rest of the team, from EDI and James in the lab to the remarks during the missions and on the Normandy. While Shepard was obviously the focus, it really felt morelike a group effort than previous DLC entries did.

- "Vanguard of our destruction. How's THAT working out for you, Sovereign?" This line made me laugh in gleeful triumph. Sometimes its good to revel in past victories.

-Puzzle-solving with the filters. I loved this as a concept, but I can't help feeling like it would have been more satisfying if it had been harder to put together. It was more a matter of thoroughness than making the player think. I'd love something that made you rummage through the codex in order to get to the right answer.

-I loved the tension when you were using Ann to track down the Leviathan. It's a great role-playing moment for the player. How far is your Shepard willing to go? It might have been better if there were different consequences for going too short besides having to search more systems.

Disliked-

-Shepard taking forever to grasp that the miners were being controlled or to understand what was going on with the research assistant. Given how much experience Shepard has with people being indoctrinated, it felt weird how puzzled she seemed as events transpired.

-Ladder bug makes Zu cry.

-No effect on the ending. I feel like Bioware missed a bet with how they approached the end of this series. Since its the end of the series, they could have done a lot more to make DLC feel like it influenced the course of the game.

Don't Know How to feel-

-The Leviathans. On the one hand, it's cool to find out about the reaper origins and everything, but on the other hand it takes the mystery out of what happened. I still think Bioware made a mistake in feeling like they needed to answer questions about the Reapers.

Overall it was a good DLC, and I feel like I got my moneys worth. Seeing the crew in action again is always a blast. Looking forward to a few more adventures with them.

[B.Shep]

Flaming Snake wrote...

I sense a new MP map coming, in the form of that crashed ship that the underwater mech is on...

Overall, I liked it, BUT it would have been nice if the Leviathans actually had more of an input towards the War Assets or the final battle. Considering it was 1.6GB, there could've been a bit more in there.

Worth the 800MS points imo.

They added some vorcha and Illum war assets with this DLC. And if they followed the same pattern than the Extended Cut DLC maybe they let some hidden files for the next one inside Leviathan.

[V-rcingetorix]

@B. Shep...

We can only hope.

[thearbiter1337]

Well even with Leviathan recruited Refusal still give you the whole "You ****ed up and you lost" story

Though i liked the mission in general as hell even my Paragon Shep was willing to do anything to find Leviathan and recruit him

[obZen DF]

Just finished Leviathan. Here are my thoughts:

Likes,
- First of all, the locations/environments! All 4 new locations were good looking and nicely done.
- Bryson's lab 'puzzles'. Were nice new gameplay segments, with a little exploring. Also, the galaxy map in the lab was cool, and the lochness skeleton as well.
- I've seen alot of easter eggs/references. For instance, a datapad wich contains a freighter name called the MSV Kirkwall. Made me giggle. And EDI talking about the Basilisk forum where people complained about something being overpowered. Awesome.
- James being in the lab, and the husk-head-thing playing with James.
- Sovereign remains in the lab
- Taking a shower with EDI !!!!!
- Of course, the part where you go into deep sea. That was amazing. Great atmosphere.
- The Leviathan convo was good.
- OH, and the other 2 Leviathans showing up. That was surprising.

Dislikes,
- Back on the Normandy when you talk to your squadmates, sometimes they don´t finish their sentences. A little annoying.
- Squadmates glitching in the mining level. Happened to me several times.
- An abrupt ending. I was expecting more.
- No cut scene of Leviathan in the end battle! What....really....
- Literally no effect on the ending whatsoever, only a dialogue line with the Catalyst. Really dissapointing.

Overall, a great DLC, took me 4,5 hours to complete.

Modifié par obZen DF, 30 août 2012 - 12:15 .

[Sxt701]

Gotta say, loved the look and feel of new "leviathan" race. I know their supposed to be like organic reapers, but I can't help but compare them to the rachni.

Plus new Dominate power kinda makes it feel worth while on a personal level.

Great work guys!

[skate4tacos96]

I liked this DLC at first, but then I realized something. The Leviathans are an even bigger threat than the Reapers! After the Reaper threat is dealt with, surely they will try to dominate the "Lesser Species" and become the "Apex Race" since they won't have to hide from the Reapers anymore. Is anybody else concerned or annoyed by this?

[skate4tacos96]

I liked this DLC at first, but then I realized something. The Leviathans are an even bigger threat than the Reapers! After the Reaper threat is dealt with, surely they will try to dominate the "Lesser Species" and become the "Apex Race" since they won't have to hide from the Reapers anymore. Is anybody else concerned or annoyed by this?

[2seater]

PROS
-I thoroughly enjoyed this DLC. The leviathan was a pretty big reveal. I would've saved this DLC as the last DLC to release honestly, because it really revealed what the Reapers were modeled after, and their reason for being created in the first place.
-I also loved the dialogue, even though it was mainly auto dialogue.
-I loved exploring the apartment. In fact, I kept EDI with me in every mission because it just seemed to make since to me.
-I enjoyed male sheperd's perfomance, more emotional.
-squad banter seemed to be more frequent
-the scientist father and daughter had actual face models
CONS
-the reapers have officially been p***yfied. The Leviathan reveal of their appearance and creation origin took away the seemingly ominous god-like presence from the Reapers.
-no batarian cameos
-this is kind of nitpicky, I thought Leviathan would be A LOT larger, like galactus/planet size.
-seriously, the Leviathans just chill on a water planet and watch cycle after cycle get destroyed!?...but then they decide to 'fight back' when shepard comes in and says "hey guys, I'm different though!"PUNKS!
-I was wanting something more to the Reaper origin other than, 'AI goes crazy out of control'
-Finally, we've essentially brought the Leviathan out of the closet, they were controlling organics before......so after shepard defeats/synthesizes/controls the Reapers, the Leviathans will just come back and try to control everyone again.........lose - lose situation.

Overall I enjoyed the heck out of this. Then again, I just have huge love for MASS EFFECT.

[uzivatel]

2seater wrote...

PROS
-seriously, the Leviathans just chill on a water planet and watch cycle after cycle get destroyed!?...but then they decide to 'fight back' when shepard comes in and says "hey guys, I'm different though!"PUNKS!

I thought it had more to do with Shepard leading Reapers to their hideout.

[Astralify]

Ghouldaddy wrote...

Best DLC of the Series in my Opinion. I really enjoyed the nod's to Mass Effect 1, the lab and the lovecraft vibe in the Asteroid. I will buy as many of these DLC's as you can make if they live up to this standard. Is their an item for Shepards Cabin that I missed?

You have really low standarts.

[Innocent Erendira]

So I thought that it was a great DLC. The team did a very good job of mood setting, like exploring the place with the creepy miners. I thought at any moment they were gonna flip out and attack me lol

The underwater scenes were super lovely, so I would like to congratulate the team on just how beautiful all of that looked.

That said, it seemed like a pretty big plot point to drop just from a DLC...like the reaper daddy race can wind up being an even bigger danger..and then of course there's the fact that they don't show up in the ending, which since the dlc is still new I'm hoping this will be amended but I'm not holding my breath.

[B.Shep]

uzivatel wrote...

2seater wrote...

PROS
-seriously, the Leviathans just chill on a water planet and watch cycle after cycle get destroyed!?...but then they decide to 'fight back' when shepard comes in and says "hey guys, I'm different though!"PUNKS!

I thought it had more to do with Shepard leading Reapers to their hideout.

The Reapers discovered their hiding place and being a giant aquatic species the only thing they could do was fight to protect their planet or let the Reapers kill them.
By the way, the Reapers were already tracking them after all they reached both Mahavid and Namakli before Shepard, altough i agree seeing how Shepard was also after the same target they probably started following him too.

[B.Shep]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

I liked this DLC at first, but then I realized something. The Leviathans are an even bigger threat than the Reapers! After the Reaper threat is dealt with, surely they will try to dominate the "Lesser Species" and become the "Apex Race" since they won't have to hide from the Reapers anymore. Is anybody else concerned or annoyed by this?

There is always the possibility another race start some war again(krogan, batarians, leviathan etc...), nothing last forever.
However the probability is small since the Leviathans need to use thralls to act as their "arms and legs" and their mind control ability is limited to places close to the orbs.
Sure they tried that (and failed) about two milennia ago by using
the Rachni (use one orb to control the Queen then all the hive is yours)but now that everyone knows about them their "behind the scenes" act will be hard for them to do it again without anyone noticing...

Modifié par B.Shep, 30 août 2012 - 02:04 .

[ZerebusPrime]

I got the feeling that the Leviathans are only helping to the extent that keeps the Reapers off their own hides and that they sent Shepard back up to the surface as a distraction. The Reapers seem to see Shepard as a threat, after all (and how would the Leviathans know that, anyway?), so keeping Shepard in the game keeps the Reapers' attention focused on their giant bait-Shepard-into-the-bug-zapper trap in London.

[SRP]

If any of you have the Space Hamster in your cabin along with the Husk head, try examining the hamster and see what happens.

[Lord of Nightmares]

One thing that really disappointed me about this DLC though is that they never revealed the deal with that drawing of Slenderman. If anything, I was actually more curious to learn more about that than the Leviathans themselves.

[Kathleen321]

B.Shep wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

I liked this DLC at first, but then I realized something. The Leviathans are an even bigger threat than the Reapers! After the Reaper threat is dealt with, surely they will try to dominate the "Lesser Species" and become the "Apex Race" since they won't have to hide from the Reapers anymore. Is anybody else concerned or annoyed by this?

There is always the possibility another race start some war again(krogan, batarians, leviathan etc...), nothing last forever.
However the probability is small since the Leviathans need to use thralls to act as their "arms and legs" and their mind control ability is limited to places close to the orbs.
Sure they tried that (and failed) about two milennia ago by using
the Rachni (use one orb to control the Queen then all the hive is yours)but now that everyone knows about them their "behind the scenes" act will be hard for them to do it again without anyone noticing...

Exactly. Still felt like the Leviathan is not to be trusted, It would have been neat to see how they ended up in the EC, but I doubt they were included in the EC. The introduction of the Leviathan to the council races is kind of a big deal. I doubt they're just going to go quietly back into hiding after the war.

Modifié par Kathleen321, 30 août 2012 - 04:00 .

[Mash-X-ToDieSlower]

Umm...

The way they were talking about it getting real once you go underwater, I thought I was just at the halfway point of the DLC. But I wasn't. It was over.

I breezed through in 2.5 hours, people using LOTSB as a game length reference are DEAD WRONG. Overall, it just started getting interesting, then it ended abruptly and offers no extra impact to the game. This was a $5 DLC, not $10. I'm really disappointed, especially since the game hard froze on me twice during cutscenes, and it was still a linear experience. The moments in the shuttle were generic, didn't feel like there was ever any risk of an outcome that wasn't being handed to me.

4 bowls of cereal out of 10 bowls of cereal.

Overall, I'm still hungry, but all there is to eat is more cereal. Ugh. Not enough marshmallows...

[SlottsMachine]

RiptideX1090 wrote...

It implies that whatever choice you made at the end only makes things worse. It shows that Synthesis is exactly what the Catalyst is looking for, so you are beyond a shadow of a doubt bowing to the Reaper's will in that ending. It shows that the Reapers can be hacked in Control, which has it's own connotations. What happens if a race decides they don't like being ruled by Shepard and decide to try enslaving the Reapers for themselves.

Worst of all is what it does to Destroy, though, an ending where it already feels like we got kicked in the balls with the Geth's destruction. In that ending, without the Reapers to keep them in check, god only knows what the Leviathans are going to end up doing to the galaxy.

It's like no matter what you do, the universe we loved is still not safe, still ****ed, and everything we did is pointless. What was the point of stopping Soveriegn if everyone just turns into a Leviathan slave later anyway? 

Haha, Leviathan EC incoming. 

Modifié par General Slotts, 30 août 2012 - 04:01 .

[Doctor_Jackstraw]

I dont see Leviathan as being a threat to the galaxy, the explanation from the game painted them closer to "benevolent" rulers than the tyrants that were the reapers.

[Lord of Nightmares]

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if the writers might've taken a cue from Robotech: The Shadow Chronicles, even if in part or unconsciously.

For those unfamiliar with the Robotech franchise, the final story arc basically had Earth being occupied by an alien race known as the Invid which piloted large robitc suits vaguely resembling crabs. A large expeditionary force of humans survived the original invasion as they had been exploring a different part of the galaxy, and they made alliances with several alien races before returning to retake Earth.

During the final battle, the Invid finally withdrew from Earth and left for points unknown, but the allied fleets suffered huge casualties. At this point, one of their alien allies (an ancient and enigmatic alien race which seemed to be cybernetic in nature) suddenly revealed their true colors and turned against the humans and other races. They suddenly displayed technology far beyond anything that they were previously known to possess, including far superior starships than the ones used to help reclaim Earth. Also, it was revealed that they were possibly the most advanced race in the known galaxy, and were responsible for devastating the Invid's original homeworld, forcing the latter race to turn violent and expansionist. Turns out that they'd been biding their time for millennia and concealing their true military and technological strength, while waiting for all the other sentient races to be weakened by warring each other before launch an all-out attack on their former allies in their attempt to reconquer the galaxy. Hmmm...........

[aMytallica]

I really liked it. Leviathan was fascinating. Loved squad interactions, how my Shepard's LI seemed to always be there for her. The exchange you have with James about the husk head was hilarious. Really liked the investigative side of the mission at the lab, the locations looked amazing, and the whole mood was extremely eerie.
I haven't played the ending again to see what the Catalyst has to say, but it's certainly raised a few questions about consequences for your end choices etc. It's kind of frightening really. Leviathan didn't sound like they were totally hostile to 'lesser' beings, but still...
I had always wondered where BioWare could go in a future ME game. What could be bigger or more powerful than the Reapers? I think we found out what that was.

[JohnZord]

Awesome DLC!! Adds more to the game and ME universe which is a great thing!

The Good:
more explained about the reapers and also a little about the rachni, great new locations, great atmosphere during the mission, more reaper forces to fight with new added gameplay (taken from mutliplayer), interesting and hilarious interaction with squad mates, new planet systems to explore (including the Vorcha homeworld) with new assets to accumulate, and awesome reveal at the end of the mission.

The Bad:
no new footage of leviathans (or anything else) added to the battle at end of the game.

Great addition to ME3 and well worth it! More DLC like this will be very much welcome!

Modifié par JohnZord, 30 août 2012 - 06:05 .