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AlexMBrennan wrote...

If sales of the Leviathan DLC are disappointing, I fear that EA will misinterpret the reason for it. Many people here have said they will not buy it, usually because they think it won't change the endings or to send a message of disappoint to Bioware/EA over the endings to begin with. However, EA might look at the low sales numbers and think "That proves it! Single-player is out! Make everything multi-player from now on!" There've been many cases where publishers/developers see a declining video game franchise and try to reinvigorate it in ways that completely miss the reason it was declining. I fear the same may happen to ME if DLC sales drastically decline.

And your solution is to keep paying Bioware for mediocre content you don't want? Gee, you wouldn't happen to be working for Bioware now would you?

Capitalism works. If that happens, then the next MP-only title will bomb, and they'll rethink their strategy. Maybe, anyway, since they're already determined to make all games MP centric, demand be damned.

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A company that misinterprets why its losing sales is a company that'll fail. Whatever you think of EA I'm pretty sure that they know all about sales and money and will be aware of the real cause of anything that affects them, both positively and negatively. They'll want the truth, not a theory that fits their prejudices, because they need the truth in order to maximise their profits and ignoring it in order to see the world as they would like it to be won't do that.

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I'm not trying to send a message to EAware. I'm just not wasting any more money on sh*tty Mass Effect DLC like I've done the past 2 or 3 times. Knowing that it's not going to affect the endings at all is just a tiny part of why I refuse to buy it.

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Not about to spend money on a DLC, hoping they make one eventually that would feature more of Jack.

I haven't made my mind yet about Leviathan, maybe eventually when I'm really bored and feel like playing new ME material. That would mean I've read positive reviews about it from people I trust.

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EA is probably already thinking that the RPG market is dying. Gaming companies have thought this before and there was a pretty long dry spell between the Gold Box Era and BG and then a bit of break before Neverwinter Nights came out.

Not too worry, we've got better European developers now. If EA kills Bioware, we have CDProjekt and others who will keep us busy.

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Mass Effect is ruined guys, face it

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nhcre8tv1 wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

nhcre8tv1 wrote...

That's just because "gamers are afraid of change".


What change?  Mindless multiplayer that sacrifices a rich and well thought out single player RPG experience.  I love MP just as much as the next guy, but not at the expense of the single player campaign.  If they wanted multiplayer, it should have been a seperate title or an MMO.


Here's the article the quote is from.


"Change is only good, when it makes things for the better".

That's a quote, from a character in a video game, no less (Red Dead Redemption if you're wondering). And it's true. A lot of the change we see in the gaming industry right now isn't really making things any better, at least for the consumers, but for the publishers themselves.

Maybe I'm just "growing up" and moving away from gaming as a hobby. I'm 33 and I'm getting more and more disenchanted with the industry with each passing year. Bah, I'll go put on my old man pants and just start leaf collecting or some ****. <_<

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Was on the fence, thinking that i might give it benefit of the doubt.

Not particularly happy that once again there's no word of any new content for ME2 characters.
But what has really taken the biscuit is their horrendous attempt to attack the destroy ending through this DLC in order to push their despised Synthesis ending.

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...wait, you're saying I can skip buying DLC for the single player that doesn't change the ending, continually applies band-aids to a faulty narrative, and just adds overpowered gameplay goodies to a game that was already chock full of overpowered gameplay goodies; and in the process, discourage BW/EA from making more mirthless single-player content and focus instead on the actually halfway-decent multi-player to add more game modes, enemies, classes, and weapons?

Hell, sign me up.

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I find that Bioware is now being used like the Water Dragon. Bioware's corpse flayed open so the fanboy money pours out while EA keeps the whole deal on some evil and twisted life support machine. 

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SauliusL wrote...

Guys - Leviathan is worth buying. It's one of the best parts in ME3. Bioware is at it's best here. Even if you still hate the endings it's worth to get these 2 hours of great story telling and gameplay!


I have no interest. 

I was planning on giving BW the benefit of the doubt and checking it out today, but I checked these forms and decided against it. 

I honestly don't care about the origin of the reapers, nor do I care to learn anything more about the race that created the StarChild.

If BioWare is going to keep shoveling **** ontop of their laughable ending I'm just going to bow out.  They've clearly decided to defend and expand their ending.  That's fine.  I'm not going to demand they change it, or make any other unreasonable demands.

I'm just don't going to support this game any more. And I'm a real sap for Mass Effect DLC. Hell, I even got Pinnacle Station, Genesis and all the appearance packs.

But my enthusiasm for this series has been torpedoed by the way they ruined their own lore. So while Leviathan might be well produced, with some fun action, I just don't care.

If my (and other like-minded folks) refusal to buy it happens to kill the prospect for future DLC, oh well.

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KiwiQuiche wrote...

Don't really care either way.


+1, this is pretty much where I'm at now.  Wasn't planning on buying any more anyways if they didn't expand or change the endings, so I really couldn't care less if they stop making SP titles.

 

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Don't care.

I youtubed it and everyone I know who plays this game youtubed it.

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@OP So we should all throw money at them for something we may not want just because we want them to make more that might possibly be good? What are we, Star Wars fans now?

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liggy002 wrote...

You'd have to be retarded to misinterpret the reason why people didn't buy the DLC. All you need to do is do some research and see why people are upset.


But according to the fact that they made the ending and this DLC in the first place....

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Don't worry though, Priestly will come on here and tell us that Leviathan sold really well. Two weeks later, he'll say they're shutting down ME3 DLC to "move resources around" for "new and exciting" things.

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Someone should make a thread - Blind buying of Leviathan has already backfired...

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 28 août 2012 - 11:56 .


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Gemini1179 wrote...

Don't worry though, Priestly will come on here and tell us that Leviathan sold really well. Two weeks later, he'll say they're shutting down ME3 DLC to "move resources around" for "new and exciting" things.


I don't begrudge BioWare at all. 

At the end of the day, they made their game.  And they decided to stick with it.  I respect that.

But reading about Leviathan has made me realize that there's no gas left in the Mass Effect tank. 

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Applepie_Svk wrote...

Someone should make a thread - Blind buying of Leviathan has already backfired...


It is true for me.  I had every intention of getting it.  Would've been playing it right now.

But I've been reading the BSN, looking at Twitter and most of the responses I see are kind of underwhelmed. 

Now I can't seem to care enough to make the purchase.

And I'm disappointed in that because I (sometimes stupidly) would buy every damn piece of DLC I could get my hands on. 

#119
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I bought it.Was a good add on to the story.But it really made the ending everyone loves to hate and argue over even more WTF??

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Ghost Down wrote...

Yep, just look what EA did to Dead Space 3. They added $%*&ing co-op.


What's wrong with co-op?

Gaming needs more co-op IMO

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EA simply needs go away.

Sell off Bioware or go under EA. You suck.

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EA ruins everything regardless. I thought DICE would always put out awesome games, but BF3 completely ruined the Battlefield series for me.

ME3 was great until the ending. The rewrite of the story after the leak was the start of BW's downfall. The original endings were great, dunno why they changed them.

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zeypher wrote...

Well, if EA wants to kill it its their choice. If a person doesnt like a product and is not interested in it, again its his choice.
If you do not like something, why would you buy it.


Agreed.  If someone buys DLC, the presumption is always that said person liked the game.  That is certainly the most logical conclusion.  If they don't buy it, there is cause to investigate the reason because there is a signal that something caused that reaction.  I really doubt if low sales for this DLC would translate into, "Just make MP!"

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I'll get right onto caring shortly

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well i personally don't see how more war assets won't change the ending. i mean wtf is the point of giving us them if they don't do sh*t in the end. so i is still hoping that the more dlc the better the ending. you would think being able to turn reapers against each other would be useful but whatever i guess

wouldn't have minded it as much if they didn't give us more war assets, but unless they change it they are just pointless. since now you only 2000-3000

in short i will buy because i like mass effect, and still hold out hope that the more i pay the better the chances are at winning the game. pay to win right