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[Eterna]

I like how it's the same people in every thread saying they won't buy it.

[JShepppp]

Hallelujah, I've been looking for a video of this for a while. Thanks a lot.

So it seems then that the Leviathans were aquatic species? Man their spaceships must've been huge, assuming they operated/lived like what we percieve to be "normal" life.

[RenegonSQ]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.

How does this DLC discourage Destroy? I'm not getting it, maybe I'm stupid or something but I don't see a connection

Put two and two together: These giant squid things controlled the galaxy at one point. They are narcissitic self-preservationalists. With the Reapers out of the picture, the relays gone, and the galaxy exhausted and strained from fighting an ultimate war of survival, why wouldn't they try to take over again?

True, but aren't they technically still Reapers? I was thinking, especially since he said that the results of the Crucible are *unknown*, that they would still be destroyed in the actual Destroy ending. Thats just me, though

[Ryzaki]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Theycan't just leave Destroy the hell alone can they. <_<

Nope, green **** for everyone!

I keep telling myself to let ME go but then crap like this just breaks my heart all over again.

[dreman9999]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

So in other words, the Reapers are killing everyone as a result of a billiion-year old, selfish science experiment gone awry. And I thought the Reapers could think for themselves?

The catalyst thinks it perserving organics...Even the leviathans say it is.

[Conniving_Eagle]

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.

How does this DLC discourage Destroy? I'm not getting it, maybe I'm stupid or something but I don't see a connection

Put two and two together: These giant squid things controlled the galaxy at one point. They are narcissitic self-preservationalists. With the Reapers out of the picture, the relays gone, and the galaxy exhausted and strained from fighting an ultimate war of survival, why wouldn't they try to take over again?

True, but aren't they technically still Reapers? I was thinking, especially since he said that the results of the Crucible are *unknown*, that they would still be destroyed in the actual Destroy ending. Thats just me, though

They're organics

[Conniving_Eagle]

dreman9999 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

So in other words, the Reapers are killing everyone as a result of a billiion-year old, selfish science experiment gone awry. And I thought the Reapers could think for themselves?

The catalyst thinks it perserving organics...Even the leviathans say it is.

Thanks, but I don't care what the Catalyst thinks.

[AresKeith]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.

How does this DLC discourage Destroy? I'm not getting it, maybe I'm stupid or something but I don't see a connection

Put two and two together: These giant squid things controlled the galaxy at one point. They are narcissitic self-preservationalists. With the Reapers out of the picture, the relays gone, and the galaxy exhausted and strained from fighting an ultimate war of survival, why wouldn't they try to take over again?

True, but aren't they technically still Reapers? I was thinking, especially since he said that the results of the Crucible are *unknown*, that they would still be destroyed in the actual Destroy ending. Thats just me, though

They're organics

who looks like giant rock squids lol

[RenegonSQ]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.

How does this DLC discourage Destroy? I'm not getting it, maybe I'm stupid or something but I don't see a connection

Put two and two together: These giant squid things controlled the galaxy at one point. They are narcissitic self-preservationalists. With the Reapers out of the picture, the relays gone, and the galaxy exhausted and strained from fighting an ultimate war of survival, why wouldn't they try to take over again?

True, but aren't they technically still Reapers? I was thinking, especially since he said that the results of the Crucible are *unknown*, that they would still be destroyed in the actual Destroy ending. Thats just me, though

They're organics

Oh wow.... that is ridiculously stupid.

[dreman9999]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

RenegonSQ wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.

How does this DLC discourage Destroy? I'm not getting it, maybe I'm stupid or something but I don't see a connection

Put two and two together: These giant squid things controlled the galaxy at one point. They are narcissitic self-preservationalists. With the Reapers out of the picture, the relays gone, and the galaxy exhausted and strained from fighting an ultimate war of survival, why wouldn't they try to take over again?

Ask yourself this...Do the Leviathan even have the man power to do that? There very little of their race left. They also are way weaker then reapers.

Modifié par dreman9999, 28 août 2012 - 06:44 .

[dreman9999]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

So in other words, the Reapers are killing everyone as a result of a billiion-year old, selfish science experiment gone awry. And I thought the Reapers could think for themselves?

The catalyst thinks it perserving organics...Even the leviathans say it is.

Thanks, but I don't care what the Catalyst thinks.

Good, now destroy them.

[CrutchCricket]

dreman9999 wrote...
Ask yourself this...Do the Leviathan even have the man power to do that? There very little of their race left. They also are way weaker then reapers.

Without the Reapers they will multiply and spread. They're basically the Rule of Two Sith of the ME world.

[AresKeith]

CrutchCricket wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Ask yourself this...Do the Leviathan even have the man power to do that? There very little of their race left. They also are way weaker then reapers.

Without the Reapers they will multiply and spread. They're basically the Rule of Two Sith of the ME world.

Where's Darth Bane when you need him? lol

[wright1978]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Here is a video containing the last 20 minutes of the Leviathan DLC: www.youtube.com/watch

If you'd rather not watch it at the moment I'll tell you what happens.

After some exploration, Shepard meets the Leviathan. Leviathan reveals to Shepard that long before the Reapers were made, its race was the apex of life in the galaxy. Its race subjegated the lesser ones to suit their needs. Leviathan's race cared for the lesser species, but could not protect them from themselves. They eventually built machines that ended up destroying them, eliminating their usefulness to Leviathan's kind. To fix this, Leviathan's race created an intelligence to preserve life at any cost. This intelligence studied and learned about civilizations until it could form a solution. In that instance, it betrayed Leviathan's kind. They were harvested to create the first Reaper - Harbinger. Despite what has transpired, Leviathan still believes that [the Catalyst] is useful, as it still serves its purpose. However, not all of Leviathan's kind were harvested. Some were able to hide from the Reapers, seeking solace in the far reaches of the galaxy. Leviathan itself is only a descendant of those. In seclusion, the remnants of Leviathan's race used special artifacts to explore and observe the pending cycles.

Leviathan doesn't know anything about the Crucible. It refuses to help directly fight the Reapers, knowing that its kind will still survive through the cycles. Instead, it will use its artifacts to indoctrinate Reaper forces and turn them against eachother to cause chaos on the battlefield.

You get a whopping 400 EMS (and another 20 if the Doctor is still alive). I also believe you get one or two new weapons, some extra mods, a new ship decoration and a bonus power. Unfortunately, you won't see Leviathan in the final battle, there will just be a few extra lines of dialogue with the Catalyst.

Worth buying? Up to you to decide.

Sounds utterly atrocious. Is this another blatant attempt by them to stop people choosing destroy by saying even if you choose to live in freedom by destroying reapers and catalyst, the godlike leviathons who are responsible for the crazed AI could just do it again.

[eddieoctane]

CrutchCricket wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

 Nope. Victory through refusal!

You wish.

You refuse-> you get harvested-> next cycle destroys Reapers, possibly without even encountering Leviathans-->Leviathans take over the galaxy shortly after.

So dark and depressing. Just like all good art should be.

[CrutchCricket]

AresKeith wrote...
Where's Darth Bane when you need him? lol

Leviathan Darth Bane was the initial survivor of the Harvest. Realizing his race couldn't defeat the Reapers head on, he reinvented the Leviathan Order by making himself disappear. The Reapers thought Leviathans to be extinct but little did they know that their former masters were hiding in the shadows, planning their millenia long quest for revenge and galactic domination.

For eons, they would wait patiently, observing and spreading their little orbs. Hell they might've even come up with the Crucible, and each cycle subtlely prodding the "lesser species" as they called them to build it, encouraging them to adapt and improve its functions, just waiting for a cycle that would be successful in using it to wipe out the Reapers And only then would they emerge to retake their rightful place.

Once more, the Leviathans shall rule the galaxy! And... we shall have... peace.

Hint: That's probably the next DLCs. Only by sacrificing yourself out of compassion in the control room of the Death St- I mean Crucible, and throwing yourself down a long reactor shaft chasm, into a beam can you end their sinister plot and bring freedom and inane dancing with furry animals to the galaxy.

May the "art" be with you.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 28 août 2012 - 07:03 .

[Morty Smith]

This thread saved me the money that is worth 400 EMS which means jack-**** in the ending-equation.

Thanks:wizard:

Modifié par Kroitz, 28 août 2012 - 07:12 .

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

CrutchCricket wrote...

You refuse-> you get harvested-> next cycle destroys Reapers, possibly without even encountering Leviathans-->Leviathans take over the galaxy shortly after.

Kind of makes you feel like just passing out this stuff to the entire fleet because no matter what we do we're ****ed anyway:

[Arisugawa]

Has anyone replayed the ending yet? I'm curious how the conversation with the Catalyst goes after all the talk about the "Intelligence" in Leviathan. Shepard ought to at least recognize that this is what the Leviathans were referencing. If it plays out without any dialogue to acknowledge this, that's a pretty big misstep.

[nevar00]

ed87 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ed87 wrote...

Just finished watching that one. Not sure why i would buy it when ive already spent $110 buying the collectors on day one.

Well, you didn't have to do that.

I was delusional. I thought that Bioware were great story-tellers. Turns out theyre great at making shooters.

At least the Dark Knight Rises did justice to a popular trilogy.

Great at making mediocre shooters, maybe.

...Also DKR ****ed over Bane in the end (I loved the film, but just sayin'..)

Sounds like this DLC puts the final nail in the coffin for any IT believers out there though.

[Baa Baa]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Here is a video containing the last 20 minutes of the Leviathan DLC: www.youtube.com/watch

If you'd rather not watch it at the moment I'll tell you what happens.

After some exploration, Shepard meets the Leviathan. Leviathan reveals to Shepard that long before the Reapers were made, its race was the apex of life in the galaxy. Its race subjegated the lesser ones to suit their needs. Leviathan's race cared for the lesser species, but could not protect them from themselves. They eventually built machines that ended up destroying them, eliminating their usefulness to Leviathan's kind. To fix this, Leviathan's race created an intelligence to preserve life at any cost. This intelligence studied and learned about civilizations until it could form a solution. In that instance, it betrayed Leviathan's kind. They were harvested to create the first Reaper - Harbinger. Despite what has transpired, Leviathan still believes that [the Catalyst] is useful, as it still serves its purpose. However, not all of Leviathan's kind were harvested. Some were able to hide from the Reapers, seeking solace in the far reaches of the galaxy. Leviathan itself is only a descendant of those. In seclusion, the remnants of Leviathan's race used special artifacts to explore and observe the pending cycles.

Leviathan doesn't know anything about the Crucible. It refuses to help directly fight the Reapers, knowing that its kind will still survive through the cycles. Instead, it will use its artifacts to indoctrinate Reaper forces and turn them against eachother to cause chaos on the battlefield.

You get a whopping 400 EMS (and another 20 if the Doctor is still alive). I also believe you get one or two new weapons, some extra mods, a new ship decoration and a bonus power. Unfortunately, you won't see Leviathan in the final battle, there will just be a few extra lines of dialogue with the Catalyst.

Worth buying? Up to you to decide.

Is anyone else bothered by how ridiculous this sounds?

[Baa Baa]

nevar00 wrote...

ed87 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ed87 wrote...

Just finished watching that one. Not sure why i would buy it when ive already spent $110 buying the collectors on day one.

Well, you didn't have to do that.

I was delusional. I thought that Bioware were great story-tellers. Turns out theyre great at making shooters.

At least the Dark Knight Rises did justice to a popular trilogy.

Great at making mediocre shooters, maybe.

...Also DKR ****ed over Bane in the end (I loved the film, but just sayin'..)

Sounds like this DLC puts the final nail in the coffin for any IT believers out there though.

Am I the only one that doesn't mind how Bane went out?
I kind of liked how they made him sympathetic in the end. And I didn't really mind killing him because I rooted for Batman the whole movie despite loving the Bane character.

[Apocaleepse360]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.

The fourth one will re-write the Refuse ending, basically turning it into a blank screen with the sounds of farts.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Baa Baa wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

ed87 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ed87 wrote...

Just finished watching that one. Not sure why i would buy it when ive already spent $110 buying the collectors on day one.

Well, you didn't have to do that.

I was delusional. I thought that Bioware were great story-tellers. Turns out theyre great at making shooters.

At least the Dark Knight Rises did justice to a popular trilogy.

Great at making mediocre shooters, maybe.

...Also DKR ****ed over Bane in the end (I loved the film, but just sayin'..)

Sounds like this DLC puts the final nail in the coffin for any IT believers out there though.

Am I the only one that doesn't mind how Bane went out?
I kind of liked how they made him sympathetic in the end. And I didn't really mind killing him because I rooted for Batman the whole movie despite loving the Bane character.

You should read my TDKR Blog. But anyway, "The Fire Rises." '

However, not in the context that you think. With each speculation made, Caey Hudson's power level rises, and all Leviathan did was create a helluva lot of more speculation. Soon, he will be able to conquer all of Canada.

[Baa Baa]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

nevar00 wrote...

ed87 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ed87 wrote...

Just finished watching that one. Not sure why i would buy it when ive already spent $110 buying the collectors on day one.

Well, you didn't have to do that.

I was delusional. I thought that Bioware were great story-tellers. Turns out theyre great at making shooters.

At least the Dark Knight Rises did justice to a popular trilogy.

Great at making mediocre shooters, maybe.

...Also DKR ****ed over Bane in the end (I loved the film, but just sayin'..)

Sounds like this DLC puts the final nail in the coffin for any IT believers out there though.

Am I the only one that doesn't mind how Bane went out?
I kind of liked how they made him sympathetic in the end. And I didn't really mind killing him because I rooted for Batman the whole movie despite loving the Bane character.

You should read my TDKR Blog. But anyway, "The Fire Rises." '

However, not in the context that you think. With each speculation made, Caey Hudson's power level rises, and all Leviathan did was create a helluva lot of more speculation. Soon, he will be able to conquer all of Canada.

I did. You bring up good points (I don't agree because I really enjoyed the movie despite me going into it without high expectations). Lol @ Bruce being in isolation for 8 years because he beat ME3 though.