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For the reluctant consumer: Leviathan DLC End Result


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#101
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ed87 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

ed87 wrote...

Just finished watching that one. Not sure why i would buy it when ive already spent $110 buying the collectors on day one.


Well, you didn't have to do that. :P


I was delusional. I thought that Bioware were great story-tellers. Turns out theyre great at making shooters.

At least the Dark Knight Rises did justice to a popular trilogy.


No it didn't is just the hollywood version of knightfall and knightfall is still better.

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liggy002 wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

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This is just more useless crap, they had an opportunity to bring in Harbinger or at least a fight with a Reaper, instead there is no boss battle with an automatic cutscene kill of a Reaper. Unbelievable, this is why I can't buy any of this crap.

Why would there be another Reaper fight when there was already one on Rannoch and Tuchunka?


A capital class Reaper fight... Leviathan vs. Harbinger but of course that didn't happen.

Why would that happen since that wold change the ending and would make Leviathan meaningless.

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A capital class Reaper fight... Leviathan vs. Harbinger but of course that didn't happen.

The Leviathans did one-shot a capital Reaper (which was heading for the shuttle) at the end.

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Blueprotoss wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

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looks to me like you don't play most RPGs since you can play post-ending DLCs before the ending in some RPGs which Mass Effect has always done

Yet most of the DLC in ME aren't post-ending especially in ME1, ME2, and ME3.  ME2 has an option to play the DLC before the Collector's base while the only real "post-ending" one is Arrival based on ME's timeline.  Btw like i most RPGs DLC normally take place before the ending is reached by the player unless if its a Bethesda game.


once again they are post-ending DLC, especially in ME2. The fact that you can do them before the ending doesn't mean anything Except for ME3

I see that you won't admit that you're wrong like usual.


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#105
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The irony! My hand is burning all over again!

#106
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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Here is a video containing the last 20 minutes of the Leviathan DLC: www.youtube.com/watch

If you'd rather not watch it at the moment I'll tell you what happens.

After some exploration, Shepard meets the Leviathan. Leviathan reveals to Shepard that long before the Reapers were made, its race was the apex of life in the galaxy. Its race subjegated the lesser ones to suit their needs. Leviathan's race cared for the lesser species, but could not protect them from themselves. They eventually built machines that ended up destroying them, eliminating their usefulness to Leviathan's kind. To fix this, Leviathan's race created an intelligence to preserve life at any cost. This intelligence studied and learned about civilizations until it could form a solution. In that instance, it betrayed Leviathan's kind. They were harvested to create the first Reaper - Harbinger. Despite what has transpired, Leviathan still believes that [the Catalyst] is useful, as it still serves its purpose. However, not all of Leviathan's kind were harvested. Some were able to hide from the Reapers, seeking solace in the far reaches of the galaxy. Leviathan itself is only a descendant of those. In seclusion, the remnants of Leviathan's race used special artifacts to explore and observe the pending cycles.

Leviathan doesn't know anything about the Crucible. It refuses to help directly fight the Reapers, knowing that its kind will still survive through the cycles. Instead, it will use its artifacts to indoctrinate Reaper forces and turn them against eachother to cause chaos on the battlefield.

You get a whopping 400 EMS (and another 20 if the Doctor is still alive). I also believe you get one or two new weapons, some extra mods, a new ship decoration and a bonus power. Unfortunately, you won't see Leviathan in the final battle, there will just be a few extra lines of dialogue with the Catalyst.

Worth buying? Up to you to decide.


No.  Because my Shepard still ends up in a rubble pile and I still would have to talk to the Star Brat.

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AchesOfDoom wrote...

Leviathan.Was.Totally.Awsome!


If.you.like.talking.shrimp.

#108
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AresKeith wrote...

I wasn't planning on getting it anyway


This. Seems it makes the story even worse aswell. Bioware seem to hate their stories.

#109
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F4H bandicoot wrote...

Overall I'd say it's worth it.


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true fans wil never talk down ME3 or even the starchild, the game will bring more and more puzzles to your worthless brains that can't comprehend conversations and codexes throughout the trilogy, sad in your part indeed.

well worth $10

for those whining about youtubing....ask mommy for more allowance money.

Modifié par r3apz515, 28 août 2012 - 08:49 .


#110
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r3apz515 wrote...
true fans .

You have already lost.

#111
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r3apz515 wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Overall I'd say it's worth it.


I'm a troll


fixed

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AresKeith wrote...

r3apz515 wrote...

F4H bandicoot wrote...

Overall I'd say it's worth it.


I'm an EA Yesman and a Bioware ass-kisser.


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#113
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not bad, not great but worth it

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Kulthar Drax wrote...

Or, you know, maybe the Leviathans will serve as the bad guys for the next Mass Effect game *shrug*


aside from me not playing levi yet.. if/once I do and my paragon control shepard is in charge how is that going to be anything more than a minor speed bump? 

Ohh look I still have planet data, and I know your going to mess with the ones I swore to protect... Harby take 50 reapers capital ships and drop 50 texas sized asteroids on each of those trouble maker planets. 

Who cares if I lose control of 30 reapers by the end.. I still dropped enough mass on each planet to breifly create a new star....

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I watched it all online. So if the Leviathans are powerful enough to knock out Reapers from quite a distance, than how were they ever overthrown? Or why didn't they stop the Reapers when the cycle was young and their numbers were smaller? Or why didn't all of them gang up on Sovereign, kill him, and use the time they've gained to develop a plan to stop the rest of the Reapers? Or why didn't they do anything other than sitting on the bottom of an ocean for the past few billion years?

All in all, this seems like little more than Bioware trying to make the ending to ME3 more palatable and more integrated into the series' canon than it already is. This does not seem like a good idea to me, as anyone who already hates the ending to ME3 is unlikely to change there mind over this DLC. Why not try to make something neat and new than continue trying to fix the unfix-able?

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So let me get this straight:

-Leviathans control everyone in galaxy
-Servant races create robots to help serve them
-Robots rebel via Geth Quarian situation
-So the Leviathans do the exact same thing to stop organic/synthetic war by creating...Reapers.
-Shepard doesn't ask about the Catalyst at all
-Leviathan shown killing a Sovereign class Reaper with a mere thought.
-400 EMS points

Yep, I think i'll skip this.

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Anyone else get the feeling that a good part of this was pulled from "the abyss"?

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jollyorigins wrote...

So let me get this straight:

-Leviathans control everyone in galaxy
-Servant races create robots to help serve them
-Robots rebel via Geth Quarian situation
-So the Leviathans do the exact same thing to stop organic/synthetic war by creating...Reapers.
-Shepard doesn't ask about the Catalyst at all
-Leviathan shown killing a Sovereign class Reaper with a mere thought.
-400 EMS points

Yep, I think i'll skip this.


Wrong on that one.  They created the Catalyst, which ended up coming up with the "perfect" solution...

Turning its masters into the first Reapers and starting the cycles.

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So for those of us who only watched the ending and haven't played the DLC...how, exactly, did the Leviathans kill the Reapers? I saw them down one at the end by "thinking at it," but is there an explanation in-game about this? Is it some extreme, focused version of indoctrination?

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Well doesn't really matter to me that this DLC sucked. I never planned on buying it in the first place.

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Balek-Vriege wrote...

jollyorigins wrote...

So let me get this straight:

-Leviathans control everyone in galaxy
-Servant races create robots to help serve them
-Robots rebel via Geth Quarian situation
-So the Leviathans do the exact same thing to stop organic/synthetic war by creating...Reapers.
-Shepard doesn't ask about the Catalyst at all
-Leviathan shown killing a Sovereign class Reaper with a mere thought.
-400 EMS points

Yep, I think i'll skip this.


Wrong on that one.  They created the Catalyst, which ended up coming up with the "perfect" solution...

Turning its masters into the first Reapers and starting the cycles.


Okay I might have that wrong but it still doesn't excuse the fact Shepard never asks them what the Catalyst was/is and find out straight away there and then. Afterall the Crucible and therefore Catalyst is what is driving the narrative forward.

And then we see Leviathan switch off a Reaper, a sovereign-class one at that, in a blink of an eye. And that's worth 400 EMS? This is like the Rachni met "From Ashes" gone 1000 times worse. 

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ed87 wrote...

Just finished watching that one. Not sure why i would buy it when ive already spent $110 buying the collectors on day one.

As for the revelation, i wasnt taken in by it. Seemed like a band-aid solution to address the lack of Harbinger and that starchild's infamous line: 'You wouldnt know them, and there is no time to explain'.


That was concerning the Crucible's creators. That question is still unanswered.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

The next DLC will discourage Control, and then the third one will praise Synthesis.


The entire game discourages Control and the entire series discourages Synthesis.

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Conniving_Eagle wrote...

So in other words, the Reapers are killing everyone as a result of a billiion-year old, selfish science experiment gone awry. And I thought the Reapers could think for themselves?


Ha, yeah.  I laughed at the part where Levvy says that the Catalyst betrayed them.  Awesome, so now we have confirmation that orgainics are being "saved" from rogue AI's by a rogue AI.  That Leviathan species might not care too much about what happens to lesser species, but it does acknowledge that the cycles were not what it intended, or at the very least, they weren't supposed to be considered for harvest.  If we needed any more evidence that the Reapers are their own problem, this is it. 

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Came by to see if there's anything new for the DLC which might convince me to buy.

More lore? Yeah, from what I've read. Worth buying? No. Doesn't change anything at the end. 

... returning to GW 2 ...

 

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 29 août 2012 - 12:18 .