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[LobselVith8]

DatIrishFella wrote...

Vis a vis, Mass Effect 3? 

I'll probably avoid Dragon Age III, given the direction the franchise is going in. I dislike the auto-dialogue.

[Heather Cline]

Essentially yes. Auto-Dialogue is the bane of any rpg that gives player controlled agency. If you play a game from japan it matters not because their games have no player agency to control the story or the world around you.

American based rpg's allow player controlled agency and thus allow you to affect the world around you. This is why Auto-Dialogue is the bane of american based rpg's and will kill DA3. ME3 was so riddled with auto-dialogue that we are still pissed about it.

I refuse to buy games and support a company that doesn't listen to it's fans anymore and refuses to fix a broken game and continues to stroke it's ego instead of actually giving the fans what they want. A company that would rather go with so called 'artistic vision' and 'artistic integrity' when there was none to begin with. Continue to defend the point of views of Mac Walters and Casey Hudson instead of throwing them under the bus and doing what they should have done in the first place by giving the fans multiple different endings, getting rid of the Catalyst and allowing endings from bleak and full of despair to a happyish ending where Shepard survives, reunites with LI and crew and retires.

Instead they destroyed a good video game series and the sheep that supposedly like it continue to heap praise on a bloated corpse and lap up anything the bloated corpse throws at them.

Therefore I will be avoiding any and all games from BW and continue to voice my discontent until they either see reason or force me to leave which ever comes first.

[Little Princess Peach]

I would not mind having it as long as it's not over done like in me3 otherwise I would end up giving it back to the shop

[Ice-Whiz]

I disliked the amount in me3, but was ok with Da2.

[KENNY4753]

Auto-dialogue is good to a point but when you have it as much as ME3 did it starts to get a little boring.

[kyles3]

Heather Cline wrote...

and the sheep that supposedly like it continue to heap praise on a bloated corpse and lap up anything the bloated corpse throws at them.

I don't care if you call me a sheep--Science knows I've been called worse--but let me assuage you of any doubts about my unabashed love of ME3. There's nothing "supposed" about it, I actually like it.

Just wanted to get that on the record. I'll let you get back to your campaign of mirth and merriment. 

[Terraforming2154]

I was fine with how it was done in DA2 - I liked the variance between the three main dialogue styles when we did get autodialogue (it was fun hearing my aggressive Hawke chime in on what I was thinking internally) and I don't think that the auto-dialogue was overdone. But I really hated how it was handled in ME3 - there was too much of it and there wasn't enough variance - Shepard became the same character no matter how you played him/her in the past (which really killed re-playability).

As long as they keep the balance they had with DA2, I'll be pretty happy. I'd been even happier if they gave us more dialogue choices like there were in the first game though. I've replayed DAO four times, and there is still dialogue that I'm discovering because of all the options -- that is pretty impressive and really gives me an incentive to play the game again.

Modifié par Terraforming2154, 03 septembre 2012 - 05:16 .

[Luckywallace]

Pretty much - it would sure as heck stop me buying the game at launch and possibly first-hand. If every other element of the game was great and it got strong reviews I'd pick it up down the line for cheap but the auto-dialogue in ME3 was terrible - ME2 and DA2 struck the right balance with the dialogue.

[Ulathar]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Would it kill it? No, but it would certainly wound it.

This.

[Mr.House]

DA2 already had alot of auto dialog, so I expect DA3 to have even more.

[CroGamer002]

Mr.House wrote...

DA2 already had alot of auto dialog, so I expect DA3 to have even more.

No it didn't.

[ObserverStatus]

It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, but it certainly would be an annoyance.

[Mr.House]

Mesina2 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

DA2 already had alot of auto dialog, so I expect DA3 to have even more.

No it didn't.

Ya it did, no where near as much as ME3 but it still had laot of auto dialog, and osme of it was horribly, like Hawke and thsoe three crafters in chapter 1, where not only did she know their names, she was extreamly friednly, with no player output. It. There is other just cases where I would click something and she would say something that was OOC.

[mnomaha]

Yes. How is it an RPG when you have no control over your character.

DA3 will be one of those wait and watch games. Definitely no more pre-ordering from bioware.

[Annie_Dear]

PirateT138 wrote...

I want the dialogue style of Origins back. I don't need to hear my character talk. I just need the story not to be terrible like it was in DA2.

[Plaintiff]

No. I don't care about auto-dialogue.

[TheChris92]

Since DA3 doesn't have the same development team as that of ME3 I'm gonna say that it probably won't kill the game.

Hawke and thsoe three crafters in chapter 1, where not only did she know their names, she was extreamly friednly, with no player output

Which part of the game is this? Most of the time when Hawke says something, without player input, she usually does it in the specific tone that is aligned to how players mostly respond in conversation. I didn't mind that much, as it doesn't seem as OOC as Shepard in ME3. Anyway, since I liked DA2 I'm not worried yet.

[KiwiQuiche]

Would prefer to have none at all.

If it's as terrible as ME3 was, then yes it would kill DA3 right quick.At least in DA2 Hawke would react with her allignment in her autodialogue.

[mnomaha]

@KiwiQuiche...I look at your signature and...well, that's exactly what I think of bioware right now.

I've lost all faith.

[Fraevar]

Auto-Dialogue would absolutely ruin DA3 as the ability to define personality through not just choices but the *mixing* of choices is a core tenant of the series. I might be able to go with the developers giving the character a reaction-vocalization in a cutscene, like a reaction to an explosion or a particularly big monster appearing but anything more than that would not be welcome.

[Xewaka]

Well, the paraphrases already killed the game for me, so Autodialogue would be more akin to a leprechaun hopping on the grave going "nyah nyah", adding insult to injury.

Modifié par Xewaka, 05 septembre 2012 - 12:30 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Can't kill something that's already dead.

badumtish

But really, auto dialogue in of itself is okay, just depends on how it's implemented. Bit like paraphrases.

Ultimately we'll see what they do, though I do not think rehashing ME 3's method of auto-dialogue will be popular.

Modifié par CrustyBot, 05 septembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[CrazyRah]

The way Bioware implemented it in ME3 would most definatly kill it for me. However if developed properly and not used the wrong way i.e forced emotions that may be OOC i think that it wouldn't hurt DA3 more than anything else will