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Nyoka wrote...

You can't even gather your party and venture forth now. The game gathers it for you.


Yes. It's stupid the game must force EDI on you. She just walked right into you on Bryson's room without asking. Its creepy and stupid. The game forced her instead of letting me choose better characters like Tali, Liara and Javik.

Modifié par EricChase88, 29 août 2012 - 04:24 .


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It's cheaper to do though, since you don't have to make versions of the lines for different squadmates. Makes business sense.

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UKillMeLongTime wrote...

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besides, EDI isn't nearly as favored as Liara is. Liara is the writers pet for sure. Unkillable for 3 games and the entire series would be broken without her.

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PsychoHitsPeach wrote...

No, that's Liara's job. She's been the writer's pet for 3 games now.



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Taboo-XX wrote...

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They want you to love her so you'll choose synthesis.


Too bad for her then. I'm shooting the pipe.


Same.

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You're kind of overlooking one other simple facet. From your examples listing Tali and Javik, well some people may have killed Tali in ME2 or during the Rannoch arc and not everyone may have Javik.

it's better and easier to write in a character that everyone is guaranteed to have. Liara could have been another option but they chose not to use her.

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amxstyle wrote...

it's better and easier to write in a character that everyone is guaranteed to have. Liara could have been another option but they chose not to use her.


Thank Jubileus for small miracles.

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amxstyle wrote...

You're kind of overlooking one other simple facet. From your examples listing Tali and Javik, well some people may have killed Tali in ME2 or during the Rannoch arc and not everyone may have Javik.

it's better and easier to write in a character that everyone is guaranteed to have. Liara could have been another option but they chose not to use her.


They should let you choose. If the squadmate is dead, you can't choose him. Forcing EDI is stupid and unnecessary. Liara can do a much better job because she is an archeologist and Shadow Broker. Tali is really good at tech and data. Javik knows more about the Reapers than anyone else.

Modifié par EricChase88, 29 août 2012 - 04:48 .


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LOL all of you know you want that metal body

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EricChase88 wrote...

amxstyle wrote...

You're kind of overlooking one other simple facet. From your examples listing Tali and Javik, well some people may have killed Tali in ME2 or during the Rannoch arc and not everyone may have Javik.

it's better and easier to write in a character that everyone is guaranteed to have. Liara could have been another option but they chose not to use her.


They should let you choose. If the squadmate is dead, you can't choose him. Forcing EDI is stupid and unnecessary. Liara can do a much better job because she is an archeologist and Shadow Broker. Tali is really good at tech and data. Javik knows more about the Reapers than anyone else.

No, "stupid and unnecessary" is bloating the download file size with a dozen different voice actors all saying the same things, just so you can take your Mass Effect waifu on a space adventure with you. 

Selecting a default character everyone is guaranteed to have whether or not they're a seasoned ME trilogy veteran or an ME3-only noob makes perfect rational sense. 

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While I wasn't 100% happy that EDI was featured so prominently - I was relieved that it wasn't Liara...again. I'd rather have EDI shoved down my throat then the obvious Mary Sue of the Normandy.

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It could only have been either Liara, EDI, or James seeing as how you can do the missions at any time so you might not have the Virmire Survivor, Tali and Garrus might be dead from the suicide mission, and Javik is another DLC.

James isn't smart enough and Liara already has enough focus on her, even getting her own DLC in ME2. That leaves EDI, who is also the smartest character and able to search the extranet or her databanks in seconds.

Besides, you're not forced to take EDI on any of the actual combat missions. She only goes with you to investigate Bryson's apartment, yeah, totally forced.

Stop posting, OP, you're making yourself look bad.

Modifié par ZombieGambit, 29 août 2012 - 05:02 .


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Well, She is the solution to the organic/synthetic problem. So it we just let AI's be free like her and teach them morality like her....They won't kill us doing what we told them to do.

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EricChase88 wrote...

They should let you choose. If the squadmate is dead, you can't choose him. Forcing EDI is stupid and unnecessary. Liara can do a much better job because she is an archeologist and Shadow Broker. Tali is really good at tech and data. Javik knows more about the Reapers than anyone else.


Seeing as this is the third or fourth time you've said this, I'm calling flame-baiting. And I'll add a side of logic fallacy

Modifié par Mahrac, 29 août 2012 - 05:13 .


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Mahrac wrote...

EricChase88 wrote...

They should let you choose. If the squadmate is dead, you can't choose him. Forcing EDI is stupid and unnecessary. Liara can do a much better job because she is an archeologist and Shadow Broker. Tali is really good at tech and data. Javik knows more about the Reapers than anyone else.


Seeing as this is the third or fourth time you've said this, I'm calling flame-baiting. And I'll add a side of logic fallacy


I'm not baiting anything. Its clear EDI is forced when there are other alternatives.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Too bad for her then. I'm shooting the pipe.


This X1000

None of this "Image IPB"

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She can google 40 things at one time.

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EricChase88 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

EricChase88 wrote...

They should let you choose. If the squadmate is dead, you can't choose him. Forcing EDI is stupid and unnecessary. Liara can do a much better job because she is an archeologist and Shadow Broker. Tali is really good at tech and data. Javik knows more about the Reapers than anyone else.


Seeing as this is the third or fourth time you've said this, I'm calling flame-baiting. And I'll add a side of logic fallacy


I'm not baiting anything. Its clear EDI is forced when there are other alternatives.


But my Tali is dead, I don't have Javik, and Liara got too much time, and EDI can draw conclusions and analyse data more quickly that all of them.

You say Liara is Broker - has no bearing on raw prosessing power, and her network doesn't provide any benefit here. You say Tali is a good tech - still nowhere near as good as a quantem computer, and she's an engineer, not a researcher. You say Javik know more about Reapers - he know how to kill them, yes, but this isn't a battle and these aren't Reapers.

You then procede to not refute these points, rise and repeat. Baiting through a logic fallacy; arguement proves arguement, you need to provide support for your arguement, or your technically baiting.

Modifié par Mahrac, 29 août 2012 - 05:31 .


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She is the logical choice. She can't be indoctrinated and no other crew member could analyse the data in 1 sec like her. Every other crewmember would need weeks or months to study the data

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Mahrac wrote...

EricChase88 wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

EricChase88 wrote...

They should let you choose. If the squadmate is dead, you can't choose him. Forcing EDI is stupid and unnecessary. Liara can do a much better job because she is an archeologist and Shadow Broker. Tali is really good at tech and data. Javik knows more about the Reapers than anyone else.


Seeing as this is the third or fourth time you've said this, I'm calling flame-baiting. And I'll add a side of logic fallacy


I'm not baiting anything. Its clear EDI is forced when there are other alternatives.


But my Tali is dead, I don't have Javik, and Liara got too much time, and EDI can draw conclusions and analyse data more quickly that all of them.

You say Liara is Broker - has no bearing on raw prosessing power, and her network doesn't provide any benefit here. You say Tali is a good tech - still nowhere near as good as a quantem computer, and she's an engineer, not a researcher. You say Javik know more about Reapers - he know how to kill them, yes, but this isn't a battle and these aren't Reapers.

You then procede to not refute these points, rise and repeat. Baiting through a logic fallacy; arguement proves arguement, you need to provide support for your arguement, or your technically baiting.


If your squadmates are dead, you can't chose him. Simple. Forcing EDI to be with you is stupid. You should at least be able to choose Liara or James instead of EDI.

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OP is mad that his waifu fantasy was denied.

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Would've liked it if Liara and Tali helped search, not just EDI and Jame's cameo appearence. But since I usually don't take EDI with me most of the time, it was kinda nice to have a different character.

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Ghost1017 wrote...

EDI is smarter than your squadmates.

She would be a pretty crappy AI if she wasn't.

However, she can be smarter than anyone else while staying on the Normandy and assist us from there.

Edit: I do understand why Bioware might want to force a character on you as others have pointed out.

Modifié par klarabella, 29 août 2012 - 06:22 .


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klarabella wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...

EDI is smarter than your squadmates.

She would be a pretty crappy AI if she wasn't.

However, she can be smarter than anyone else while staying on the Normandy and assist us from there.

Edit: I do understand why Bioware might want to force a character on you as others have pointed out.


I pointed out the reasons to the op but he won't listen to logic.

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EDI and James were featured promenently in the lab simply because they are the only two squadmates you're absolutely going to have around. The only other choice is Liara, who really is the writer's pet. But EDI is much better qualified.

There is no squadmate selection for those scenes because its not a combat segment.