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[Fusionlabs]

Hi All,
so I just direct downloaded Dragon Age Mac Edition to take with me on my Macbooks
over Christmas. Look and 'feel' very close to PC version. Very comfy installer,
9.8 GB to download (DLC already supplied along if you go for the Digital Deluxe
version). So, how fast does it run?
I tried it first on my MacBook Air (2.16 GHz Core 2 Duo, 2 Gb Ram, Geforce 9400M):
Conclusion (setting all grphiacs to lowest): It's to slow to be playable (0.5-2 fps, even in
character creation dragging the character to rotate him/her results in laggy 5-10 fps).
Note fps estimated based on feel in other games with fps counter.
I figure this slow performance is because the 9400M has only 256 Mb Ram.

Next up, MacBook Pro.

enjoy the holidays. 

[Zenon]

Maybe more RAM might help, too. I play on a 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo and it runs very nicely with Vista. But I also have 4 GB RAM and a GeForce 9800M GTX with 1GB RAM.

[Fusionlabs]

Quick update: On the MacBook Air performance improve a lot (~10 fps when walking around ) if one reduces the resolution from the default (1280x...) to (1024x...). In fights (e.g. Orzammar tunnels) it drops to below 1 fps.
(Edit: updated fight fps).

Modifié par Fusionlabs, 24 décembre 2009 - 01:11 .

[DeathTyrant]

If I come across as a bit of a git I apologise, but the 9400M that you mentioned is indeed probably the weak link, but not because of the VRAM. It simply lacks the 'horsepower', even if it were to have 512MB VRAM.



It's good enough for most things though, so long as you 'dial down' some of the options.

[Allen63]

Macs are simply PCs with very good CPU, pretty case, poor graphics (usually). Apparently, gaming is not an Apple priority. I notice the newer iMacs with the highest end ATI graphics option should be more than enough to play DA at max settings. Also, some of the older ones use an HD3870 (or 50, can't remember exactly) -- those should meet the DA recommended requirements.

[Caughill]

I switched back to playing using bootcamp on my Macbook Pro. The Mac "port" performance was just too painful.

[Sabon]

I have one of the new Mac Mini's from Nov '09 and it runs really well. I have 4 gb of RAM and this is the Mac download (Cider) version. I don't do Windows. It's fine if you do.

[xxMidgetxx]

I can't even get it to start theres always an error

[Dam Wookie]

It's all about having an acceptable graphics card you complete numpties. 256mb 7900 gs fine. 256 mb 9400 pile of poo.

[xxMidgetxx]

wow I have the 256mb 9400 + 9600

[wrinkly1987]

I've been playing on my macbook pro (bought it in April 2008, just before the newer models came out...) on bootcamp Win 7 32, with my 4 Gb RAM, 2.66 CPU and 9600GT 512 and everything plays rather smoothly with all settings maxed except AA on 2.



Is the Cider port really worse than bootcamp? I mean, is it noticeably worse such that bootcamp is clearly the better option?

[UdumbDumbs]

Nothing operates "through" or "from" bootcamp. Bootcamp is not a piece of software. All it is, is a tool to help the average user dual-boot the machine, after that you install a package of drivers and that's it. I'm so sick of reading people say, "runs fine through bootcamp" or "is it better on bootcamp?" The questions or statements should be, "I've been playing on my Macbook Pro using Windows" or "Does it run better on the Macbook in Windows than it does in OS X?" THAT'S IT.

[Dex1701]

Fusionlabs wrote...

Quick update: On the MacBook Air performance improve a lot (~10 fps when walking around ) if one reduces the resolution from the default (1280x...) to (1024x...). In fights (e.g. Orzammar tunnels) it drops to below 1 fps.
(Edit: updated fight fps).

It probably has more to do with the GPU than the video RAM, although at 256MB it's probably a little of both.  You really need to go up to a 9600 to make a lot of modern games run comfortably.

I'd also be interested to compare performance with the game running under Windows on the same Macbook.  It'd be interesting to see how much overhead using the Cider compatibility layer is creating.

Modifié par Dex1701, 04 janvier 2010 - 05:39 .

[wrinkly1987]

UdumbDumbs wrote...

Nothing operates "through" or "from" bootcamp. Bootcamp is not a piece of software. All it is, is a tool to help the average user dual-boot the machine, after that you install a package of drivers and that's it. I'm so sick of reading people say, "runs fine through bootcamp" or "is it better on bootcamp?" The questions or statements should be, "I've been playing on my Macbook Pro using Windows" or "Does it run better on the Macbook in Windows than it does in OS X?" THAT'S IT.

I think that's generally assumed, by saying "through bootcamp", isn't it...? In saying "through bootcamp" one clearly makes a distinction between running windows on a macbook and running windows on any other sort of laptop or running windows in any other sort of way on OSX. If you say, '"I've been playing on my Macbook Pro using Windows"' or '"Does it run better on the Macbook in Windows than it does in OS X?"', someone might make the assumption that you're using software like vmfusion or parallels to run windows in OSX, in which case the game performance would be quite different to that in windows "through bootcamp". My 2 cents - these are just semantics anyway...

[Gorath Alpha]

I've noticed that no one in this thread has sounded off about whether or not the Social Forums included anything intended specifically for Apple PC owners.  I actually had this rthread, or another I recalled, somewhat similar in subject matter, an hour ago when I ran a search for "mac" topics, and the newest that the search gave me was one last commented on as of ten days ago.

The reason I ran the search is that I periodically scan the lists of forums here, and this morning I found a new one for Apple folks to discuss Mac Tech questions in.  I scanned the announcements, and it's some kind of secret so far -- no fanfare, no "here you go", nothing like that. 

Odd, don't you think? 

Gorath
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[hagl75]

I just downloaded from Driect2Drive everything works great so far. Running mac version on a late '08 MBP 2.4 core 2, 2 Gigs Ram and a GeForce 8600 GT card. Running right now with no AA but everything else maxed and it's quite smooth.

[herwin1]

 I'm running fine with the bootcamp drivers. Not slow at all. I haven't tried the Mac version. My hardware configuration is 
  Model Identifier: MacBookPro2,2
  Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
  Processor Speed: 2.33 GHz
  Number Of Processors: 1
  Total Number Of Cores: 2
  L2 Cache: 4 MB
  Memory: 2 GB
  Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Chipset Model: ATY,RadeonX1600

Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Color LCD:
  Resolution: 1440 x 900
  Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

[Tekbear]

i think th OP wanted to have input on the performance of the mac version of the game, not whether it runs on a mac with windows.



it's pretty safe to say it runs well on all mac machines under windows if you have an ATI 1600 card or higher.

[BomimoDK]

anyone know why antialias doesn't work on cider ports and crossover?

[herwin1]

Tekbear wrote...

i think th OP wanted to have input on the performance of the mac version of the game, not whether it runs on a mac with windows.

it's pretty safe to say it runs well on all mac machines under windows if you have an ATI 1600 card or higher.

I was providing a baseline for comparison.

[Allen63]

If DAO is running slow on a Mac then performance is probably limited by the graphics card or GPU -- because most CPUs should run it. Notebooks/laptops typically have weak graphics. Mac desktops typically have weak graphics -- but do offer adequate graphics on recent versions of their pricier desktops.

I could say the same things about PC laptops and budget PC desktops.

Modifié par Allen63, 08 janvier 2010 - 12:24 .

[hagusofnwn]

I have both versions to play. I have a bootcamp setup with XP sp2 and the MAC Deluxe version as well.



My platforms are:



1) iMac 24" 3.06 Core2Duo, 4Gb ram, NVIDIA GeForce GT130 - The performance is very good comparing it to PC version running on Bootcamp. My bootcamp install does have some issues in that it dies for no good reason, but only after many hours of play.



2) Macbook Pro = 2.4 Core2Duo, 4Gb ram, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M+9600M GT - The performance is not the same as the iMAC and I do have to drop the settings down to get smooth playability.

[bschoneberger]

anyone gotten cheats to work on mac?

[dualie11]

Hi

I've been playing this since it first came out for Mac, and I LOVE it.  It plays VERY (though not flawlessly) well on my late 2008 24" 2.8GHz iMac, 4GB RAM, ATI HD 2600.  I keep the settings in the middle area, and I turned on antialiasing.  I have experienced little to no lag.  The only place it occasionally slows down is in foggy areas, so it's no big deal.

I've been fiddling with some mods lately and I wonder if anybody else has.  I notice that we Mac users weren't lucky enough to also get the dainstaller app that shipped with the PC version, so installing some of the bigger mods is very daunting since it's difficult to know exactly where some of the files go.

The instructions I have read for some of the mods all seem to indicate that you need to use dainstaller, but since that's not an option, is there anybody who has installed them by hand?  If so, did you find any detailed instructions as to where the files live?

Thanks!  Great game.  A real time waster 

[dualie11]

blarg, double post

Modifié par dualie11, 14 janvier 2010 - 01:45 .