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[Druk-Qs]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...


Euhmmm Dragonball Z is not hard to understand.  It's a rather straight-forward, simple and shallow series. Even my little 7 yeas old nephew understands it perfectly well.


Goku is just a shallow, boring and overrated character. Period.

lol Oh my god i can't believe people still use this meaningless word.

Anyway, for me, well, she's my avatar.
Why, i'm not entirely certain. I guess she hit a spot with me that no one else could, but idgaf i WUV her 

She's closely followed by:
Re-I Mayer(Ergo Proxy):



Monkey D Luffy (One Piece):


And of coure, you knew it was coming, L Lawliet(Death Note):



EDIT: OMG how could i forget, Spike Spiegel!:

Modifié par One_Sunny_Place, 30 août 2012 - 02:49 .

[Clover Rider]

I always feel a bit sorry for you One_Sunny_Place, because Hinata's creator sure does hate her...

Modifié par Some Geth, 30 août 2012 - 02:48 .

[Druk-Qs]

lol, At least he treats her better than Sakura...

There was this one time where Kishimoto was asked about a Sakura arc that he had supposedly promised but never did, and this was his reply:

"Oh right, i forgot about that"

He actually forgot about an arc for his main heroine. wut.

Modifié par One_Sunny_Place, 30 août 2012 - 02:52 .

[Clover Rider]

The only reason Hinata is better off is because she never gets any time in the series...

Modifié par Some Geth, 30 août 2012 - 02:54 .

[Druk-Qs]

@Some Geth
Well then i suppose i'm fortunate for that!

Hah, seriously though i understand your point.
He doesn't really seem to care much about his female characters in general anyway(Remember TenTen? no? not a lot of people do, unless you watch that Rock Lee series). It's kinda saddening really, but even then, i can't say i really care all that much.

It's like when Thom Yorke said he hated his song "Creep" because it got a lot more attention than Radiohead's other stuff, but i still like it, i mean am i supposed to stop liking something because the creator is unsatisfied with it?

Really though, the only characters who matter for anything in this series right now are Naruto(obviously), Sasuke, Tobito, Madara and possibly Orochimaru.
Everyone else is just there, sadly.

Modifié par One_Sunny_Place, 30 août 2012 - 03:01 .

[Clover Rider]

Lathrim wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

But he is still lovable right?

No really you still don't get it. Beating the bad guys has nothing to do with being a Mary Sue. Luffy would be a Mary Sue then right?

Also for someone who has seen all of the series, you should know Goku only ever killed Kid Boo, the Red Ribbon leaders, King Piccolo and his men. And you should know it's spelled Kuririn.

You don't even understand all of that stuff with Vegeta is a joke.

Lol.

Beating almost every single villain in a series is related to being a Mary Sue, but not the only thing. Goku not only beats everyone but Cell, he has been the most powerful protagonist in the series with one brief exception. That being Gohan surpassing him for sometime in Cell's saga, and even that doesn't last long.

For reference:

"A Mary Sue is a fictional character with overly idealized and hackeyed mannerisms, lacking noteworthy flaws, and primarily functioning as a wish-fulfillment for the author or reader. It is generally accepted as a character whose positive aspects overwhelm their other traits until they become one-dimensional." 

IMO, Goku fits that description well enough to be considered one.

That would almost work(not really) if Goku was a character to be taken seriously. Is Arale-chan a Mary Sue too?

Oh and Gohan is still stronger than Goku. Kid Boo was stronger than him too.

@One_Sunny_Place Not saying for you to stop liking her character, just saying you should wish her to be in a better series where she could shine 

Modifié par Some Geth, 30 août 2012 - 03:09 .

[Druk-Qs]

Believe me, i've so many, many times.

Hell i just wish he would've handle the Naruto to a better writer.
I really like the world Kishimoto created and he comes up with some great ideas, but he's bad at executing them and organizing them.

[Clover Rider]

One_Sunny_Place wrote...

Believe me, i've so many, many times.

Hell i just wish he would've handle the Naruto to a better writer.
I really like the world Kishimoto created and he comes up with some great ideas, but he's bad at executing them and organizing them.

If you ask me, after the Chunin Exam arc was over that's when the series started going down.

@Lathrim I know what you said.

Gohan is naturally stronger than his dad. He can't even go SSJ because he would die from all the power because his body would not be able to keep in all that ki. SSJ is just a multipler of one's own power.

Goku can't even stay as a SSJ3 for very long.

Modifié par Some Geth, 30 août 2012 - 03:23 .

[Druk-Qs]

Some Geth wrote...

One_Sunny_Place wrote...

Believe me, i've so many, many times.

Hell i just wish he would've handle the Naruto to a better writer.
I really like the world Kishimoto created and he comes up with some great ideas, but he's bad at executing them and organizing them.

If you ask me, after the Chunin Exam arc was over that's when the series started going down.

That is exactly when i thought everything started going down, but he was still decent enough for a while before he started pulling up "child of destiny" and "revenge with everyone because i'm emo" non sense.
Part of me only really reads it at this point because i'm very stubborn to know it ends(specially after being obssessed with it for a time), though i still think it's fairly entertaining. For what it is, anyway.

[Druk-Qs]

GT isn't canon.

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

My all-time favourite is Haji(Blood+)

[Il Divo]

Some Geth wrote...


If you ask me, after the Chunin Exam arc was over that's when the series started going down.

That's actually where I thought it started to pick up with the introduction of Jiraiya, Orochimaru's invasion, and the introduction of Akatsuki. I thought it gave the central narrative a bit more direction than before. But then, I'm also not a huge fan of Zabuza.

Modifié par Il Divo, 30 août 2012 - 03:55 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Some Geth wrote...

But he is still lovable right?

No.

No really you still don't get it. Beating the bad guys has nothing to do with being a Mary Sue. Luffy would be a Mary Sue then right?

No, YOU don't get it. It's the fact that all other fighters always rely on Goku and that Goku is always the strongest of the strongest protagonist that makes him an annoying mary-sue-ish character. Luffy isn't the strongest character, not by a long shot. There are plenty of goodguys and protagonists that are stronger than Luffy.

Also for someone who has seen all of the series, you should know Goku only ever killed Kid Boo, the Red Ribbon leaders, King Piccolo and his men.

Killing... defeating... whatever. The point is that Goku always defeats all the badguys.

And you should know it's spelled Kuririn.

No, it's Krillin in English. Kuririn is romaji. Only wannabe Japanese weaboos call him Kuririn. 

You don't even understand all of that stuff with Vegeta is a joke.

No, it's not a joke. How is it a joke?  If it's a joke then it's not a funny joke, but a really annoying and repetitive joke. 

[TheChris92]

Those I can think of at the moment. This thread reminded me I still need to give Ghost in the Shell a watch. As a fan of cyberpunk it is required of me

Lelouch vi Britannia - Code Geass

Kallen Stadtfeld - Code Geass

Lucy - Elfen Lied

Sousuke Sagara - Full Metal Panic

Zorro/or Zolo or however it is spelled - One Piece

Clare - Claymore

Modifié par TheChris92, 30 août 2012 - 04:46 .

[Clover Rider]

Lathrim wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

@Lathrim I know what you said.

Gohan is naturally stronger than his dad. He can't even go SSJ because he would die from all the power because his body would not be able to keep in all that ki. SSJ is just a multipler of one's own power.

Goku can't even stay as a SSJ3 for very long.

Then why mention Kid Boo?

And AFAIR Goku couldn't mantain his SSJ3 form for long because it was consuming the amount of time he could stay on Earth (this is when the very first fat Majin Boo appeared, not the Kid), and that's pretty much dealt with later. I could be wrong though, has been some years since I watched anything related to DBZ.

From what I remember, Gohan (being in his normal state) is slightly weaker than Goku (SSJ3) and as Gohan can't transform, his SSJ form really shouldn't be considered. Besides, if one was to consider DBGT Goku's SSJ4 obliterates Gohan.

Just cuz, I could have mention Bootenks(stronger than any other Boo form) and Vegito(but he is Goku lol) too. Just trying to make the point that people forget Goku is not the most powerful character in the series.

No he can't keep the SSJ3 form going long even when alive. It was taking a lot out on him during his fight with Kid Boo.

Gohan normal state is about the same level as Goku at SSJ3 maybe a little weaker but not much. It still does not change the fact that Gohan has the most ki out of everyone, just not the body to take it all in.

And f**k SSJ4.

@One_Sunny_Place I think the Naruto series with all the retcons and bad writing it has, has made it one of the worst Jump manga ever. If Sasuke becomes good again then it will be the worst ever. So Bleach has to step up it's game if wants to keep that title!

@Il Divo I like that stuff too but it started to show it's "bad sides" there, and then every arc after it got worse and worse.

@Heretic_Hanar Try telling the Japanese he is not lovable.

Oh and Luffy is the strongest main character. The reason he and Goku fight the main bad guys is because they are the main characters. Simple right.

Kuririn's name is a joke silly! Kuri is Japanese for chestnut(his lack of hair) and Rin (-lin) derives from the word "shaolin". So maybe his name could be Kurilin or Kulilin but not Krillin. You don't have to be a weeaboo to get a character's name right. lol

The Vegeta stuff is a joke because he is all about pride. Think back to Recoome, a guy who acts and jumps around like a little girl and calls Vegeta "Vegeta-chan!". He mocks Vegeta to no end and beats on him to end, then Goku shows and beats Recoome in one punch! It is a joke you just can't tell it was a joke, and that means it was a good joke. Toriyama likes his mean jokes, look at Yamucha.:happy:

@TheChris92 It's spelled Zoro.

Modifié par Some Geth, 30 août 2012 - 05:08 .

[legion999]

Greed - Fullmetal Alchemist (Brotherhood)
Wrath - Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
Hei - Darker Than Black

There are others but I can't remember them. Because I'm dumb.

[TheChris92]

Some Geth wrote...


@TheChris92 It's spelled Zoro.

Okidoks.

[Clover Rider]

TheChris92 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...


@TheChris92 It's spelled Zoro.

Okidoks.

That's what I am here for!

[TheChris92]

Some Geth wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...


@TheChris92 It's spelled Zoro.

Okidoks.

That's what I am here for!

Sounds good! Perchance I could ask for some recommended animes to watch later, maybe?