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[Ashen One]

YouAreHorse wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

YouAreHorse wrote...

Interesting read.

What about avoid and a rep-hit? Surely it's less of a hassle than this elaborate scheme, no?

A player can only be avoided once you've actually played a game with him.

Indeed.

And did this not arise from a couple of ts's friends playing the person in question?

I mean, I am no expert on this technical stuff, but surely this implies that the people who could possibly want to avoid the player in question did in fact play him.

The OP can't neg rep him until he's actually played with him though. Sure, his friend could but where's the fun in that?

[YouAreHorse]

Ashen Earth wrote...



fun

Ah, I forgot about fun:)

This has, in any case, been a fun thread imho. At least that is something, even if it sort of ended on an anti-climatic note.

[upinya slayin]

Shia Luck wrote...

ok so 2 is my first bolded bit ? About whether they asked you? And they didn't.. So this is you doing this yourself, without bothering to ask them if they appreciate it?

3 is respoding to what?  it makes no sense if it is my second bolded bit.   If you need 2 other elites to beat this one guy and daren't invite the two friends who were actually the victims then ???  Or does this refer to the message you will send him that he "belongs on bronze" ?

How do your friends gain and this idiot lose?  He just didn't get top score in some random match and gets some trash talk, which he is boviously used to. Your friends get absolutely nothing except the knowledge you beat that guy and they didn't. Will you be expecting congratulations for not inviting them to that match? Or will they learn that you think they aren't very good players actually because you had to invite elites to beat this guy???

you clearly just don't get it. and thats fine. I've stated several times i'm basically going to bully the bully to give him a taste of his own medicine. that is all. i don't know how to be any clearer.


also big ups to ashen. the 1st time I got to play an extended session with him. he's definately an elite player

[Live85]

How could I have missed this thread? lol.
Btw, I kinda expected this. Why an obviously elite player should accept invites from people that are -for sure- complete noobs?

[Shia Luck]

Shia Luck wrote...
Why isn't it you and those two friends of yours playing? Or more to the point... Why aren't those two friends of yours doing it  themselves without help? You believe they are good enough, no? Do they?
Did they ask you to do this?

upinya slayin wrote...

2) no they didn't ask me

OK..  if it's all about your EPeen?  happy w4nking... noithing wrong with self love ..doing it in public is considered kinky tho .. 

Have fun   

Modifié par Shia Luck, 30 août 2012 - 04:14 .

[upinya slayin]

Shia Luck wrote...

Shia Luck wrote...
Why isn't it you and those two friends of yours playing? Or more to the point... Why aren't those two friends of yours doing it  themselves without help? You believe they are good enough, no? Do they?
Did they ask you to do this?

upinya slayin wrote...

2) no they didn't ask me

OK..  if it's all about your EPeen?  happy w4nking... noithing wrong with self love ..doing it in public is considered kinky tho .. 

Have fun   

nothing to do with that, but if thats what u want to think i can care less

[NOME]

It would be funny if you invite that guy and that guy topped the scoreboard. LOL

[upinya slayin]

NOME wrote...

It would be funny if you invite that guy and that guy topped the scoreboard. LOL

with the way ashen was playing today i highly doubt it

[Tatsumaki]

Your topic states this and I quote verbatim "Is it a good idea or wrong to... " This infers a possible indecision whether to go ahead with your proposed "bullying the bully" (as you have paraphrased)
I don't know about you, but when I asked for opinions I listen to both sides. From the trail of this thread thus far you've demonstrated that you only heed one side - that is to go ahead with your so-called redemptive plan.

You know what else is contradictory? Throughout the entire thread you profess that you are a nice person, like to help others and 27 year old mature individual. If what you say is true, you've most likely should have decided not to go alone with your plan of humiliation.

A nice person doesn't retort bullying with bullying. Replying fire with fire only results in greater flames.

A helpful person doesn't help in destructive ways. If you were true to your words and truly wanted to help people, you would have messaged that person something along the lines of explaining that your buddies had bad game, and despite the outcome you are sorry that this person felt that he/she carried your two buddies, closing your message with 'you shouldn't insult others because you don't know the other half of the story'

A mature person doesn't give ****** for tat. There is always tact and room for politeness.

So do yourself a favor, walk your talk.
Before you flip the entire table at me, I'll say this:
I've worked a job where it entitled or dare I even say demand all three of the aforementioned qualities ; Client Services. I've had people call up the company and scold words that cannot be posted here at me (the company) for a full two hours. At the end of it, it was a misunderstanding on the client's part.

Could I have scolded equally mean words back to school that person?
Did I have the right to do so especially it was the client's mistake in understanding?
Would it have been a nice and mature way to scold the client back?

[hostaman]

The guy sounds like an ***hole.

If you were always in games where everyone was epic, it would become boring quite quickly.

I personally enjoy seeing people at different levels, and get a real kick out of saving private newbie.

[Zero132132]

Tatsumaki, have you ever considered that precisely BECAUSE people in your position can't respond negatively to people being ass holes, they're more likely to continue being ass holes because there's no consequence? In game theory, ******-for-tat is the best strategy in an iterated prisoner's dilemma. It's difficult to exploit, and part of that exploitation tends to be cooperating consistently. Pure cooperation, conversely, is a poor one, one that benefits the selfish.

Really wish the guy hadn't ignored invites, but I get why he did. If I got invites out of nowhere from strangers, I'd be a bit put off too.

[Tatsumaki]

@Zero132132: Plausible yes, but I did not look at it that way. I wasn't restricted in my reply due to my office. There is always room for tact and politeness. I will leave you with this:

"A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger."

If you go by cyclic logic, if everyone replies fire with fire then the whole world will burn. We're all not perfect human beings (this much agree?) and often times we have our shortfalls. If I erred you, would I not be super grateful that you overlook my err and forgive me? Rather than slap me in the face and school me?

Now reverse the positions between yourself and myself. How does that look now?

[NOME]

@Tatsumkai

Despite your efforts to try to be mature and nice, there are still ****s in this world no matter what.

I personally don't even want to comment on what kind of person the op is, because no good words would come out from my month.

A nice person would NEVER try to insult people and bully people like what op is doing.

But if they are having fun, let them be.

[Zero132132]

[quote]Tatsumaki wrote...

@Zero132132: Plausible yes, but I did not look at it that way. I wasn't restricted in my reply due to my office. There is always room for tact and politeness. I will leave you with this:

"A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger."[/quote]
Yes. Anger is stirred. If that anger is ignored, then the person who pisses people off consistently generally thinks things are fine.

[quote[If you go by cyclic logic, if everyone replies fire with fire then the whole world will burn.[/quote]
I disagree entirely. If no one replies to fire with fire, then those that start fires will never be stifled. If we let every murderer run free, there wouldn't be less murderers than if we hung them. I don't advocate the death penalty, it's just an illustrative example. Discouraging negative actions is better than ignoring them, mostly.

[quote]We're all not perfect human beings (this much agree?) and often times we have our shortfalls. If I erred you, would I not be super grateful that you overlook my err and forgive me? Rather than slap me in the face and school me?[/quote]
Depends on the mistake, but if you would be grateful to be forgiven, you're probably not the sort to leave rude messages that aren't accompanied by apologies. Some people, on the other hand, are just ****s. They're the ones that negative reactions will be geared towards in a ******-for-tat world.

[quote]Now reverse the positions between yourself and myself. How does that look now?[/quote]
Generally, I try not to expect better from others than I do from myself. I also try to make up for my mistakes. But no one ever owes you forgiveness, yeah?

Doesn't much matter. He didn't respond. The ethical repurcussions of gaming are... well, minimal.

Modifié par Zero132132, 30 août 2012 - 05:53 .

[Matic1093]

Seek revenge, don't revive him if he goes down, and make sure he isn't at the top of the leader board.

[Twinkles DeVere]

 Hey Upinya, it's good of you to stick up for your mates here. I wouldn't be surprised if he never takes your invites cos everyone know bullies are chicken. That's why they troll, cos in real life, they're total losers.
Personal goal = spend as few seconds of my life as possible around jerks. 
But we all know you could whip his ass 

[Tonymac]

upinya slayin wrote...

So my friend tells me last night that him and another friend were having a bad game and struggling through a gold (they had 3 to start but someone dropped out so it was just the 2 of them) and a random came in mid game and basically saved them and carried them to victory. My friends in this game are actually good players though, just having a bad game. So said random carries them to victory. My friend sends him a message saying thanks and that he was awesome. The random replies back with go back to bronze where you noobs belong. So is it wrong to invite said random into a game with me and 2 really good friends, blow him out of the water and send the same message back to him? I mean it was completly uncalled for to do something like that. he coulda just said thanks or not even replied. Eliteist attitudes like that really get on my nerves sometimes. I've been dropped into games before and carried people to victory and never pulled a d*** move like that. whats your guys thoughts? good idea or wrong?

Personally, if the invitation is about poking back at him, then nah.  Its not worth it to invite them back for the sake of e-peen. 

Invite him back for the purpose of kicking some butt and being awesome as a team - and see where the cards fall.   This means stuff like watch his back,  - do not leave him alone on purpose and let him get pounded out.  Be cool.  Then if you take tops, so be it.  The purpose should be to have fun.

[Feneckus]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Mobius69 wrote...

sorry if it was already said but will the results be posted here?? im iterested

Yup Full video as long as BW allows it since its just gameplay video. It'll be a speedrun demonstration video

If you nuke spawns and he doesn't, or if you have a better loadout/class/equipment than him, that would prove absolutely nothing ...

If we nuke spawns, and he doesn't it actually proves that we know the spawning mechanics better than he does.

Although it's impact is sort of diminished on Glacier because the map is so small.

This. Nuking spawns is the pinnacle of this games knowledge. You know how to control spawns to maximise efficiency of match clears. Also if we have 20 rockets to nuke spawns with it just means that we don't those 20 rockets for things other people (mainly campers) will need them for. Banshees do not break the line of defense when speedrunning because they are already dead, we just happened to have gotten an extra 100 points of the budget depleted because we did what they did but inside the spawn...

exactly. controlling spawns and using rockets are part of understanding teh games mechanics. If this guy is an elite player as he thinks so by his comments he should know this. Its not like he doens't have missles to use. he has them and can use them how he wnats to

Exactly it should be everyone's aim to better there clear times. Why would you settle for a 24 minute FBWGG match where hide behind the counter  (and therefore following your so called code of honour where you don't do anything "cheap" in a co-op game) when it has been proven you can get a sub-14 minute Dagger run by "playing to win"?

You guys are right. PC Players are definitely more elitist/obnoxious than xbox ones ..............................................

[Ryumanjisen]

I'm 27. far from a young guy. I act immaturly around friends at time. sure, who doens't. but in teh same sense I don't understand how somebody being a d** to a friend so i decide to be a bigger D*** back to them makes me immature. its petty no doubt but its not like i'm gonna sit there and blast loud music into his mic and talk about his mom. Just gonna show him what he did wrong.

Do you realize that this is the very definition of being inmature, right?

Writing "teh" instead of "the" doesn't help either.

[upinya slayin]

Twinkles DeVere wrote...

 Hey Upinya, it's good of you to stick up for your mates here. I wouldn't be surprised if he never takes your invites cos everyone know bullies are chicken. That's why they troll, cos in real life, they're total losers.
Personal goal = spend as few seconds of my life as possible around jerks. 
But we all know you could whip his ass 

your post made me lol

[upinya slayin]

Tonymac wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

So my friend tells me last night that him and another friend were having a bad game and struggling through a gold (they had 3 to start but someone dropped out so it was just the 2 of them) and a random came in mid game and basically saved them and carried them to victory. My friends in this game are actually good players though, just having a bad game. So said random carries them to victory. My friend sends him a message saying thanks and that he was awesome. The random replies back with go back to bronze where you noobs belong. So is it wrong to invite said random into a game with me and 2 really good friends, blow him out of the water and send the same message back to him? I mean it was completly uncalled for to do something like that. he coulda just said thanks or not even replied. Eliteist attitudes like that really get on my nerves sometimes. I've been dropped into games before and carried people to victory and never pulled a d*** move like that. whats your guys thoughts? good idea or wrong?

Personally, if the invitation is about poking back at him, then nah.  Its not worth it to invite them back for the sake of e-peen. 

Invite him back for the purpose of kicking some butt and being awesome as a team - and see where the cards fall.   This means stuff like watch his back,  - do not leave him alone on purpose and let him get pounded out.  Be cool.  Then if you take tops, so be it.  The purpose should be to have fun.

do not leave him alone? am i supposed to baabysit? I don't get that comment?

[upinya slayin]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

I'm 27. far from a young guy. I act immaturly around friends at time. sure, who doens't. but in teh same sense I don't understand how somebody being a d** to a friend so i decide to be a bigger D*** back to them makes me immature. its petty no doubt but its not like i'm gonna sit there and blast loud music into his mic and talk about his mom. Just gonna show him what he did wrong.

Do you realize that this is the very definition of being inmature, right?

Writing "teh" instead of "the" doesn't help either.

Becuase its not immature. Yes i said I was being petty, and anytime someone corrects a typo it makes me wanna mis-spell eveyrthing else so that you can waste you' time trying to find them.

If someone's best response is your grammar and/or spelling then you know they have no good thing to say.

[LuckyBullet95]

Feneckus wrote...

You guys are right. PC Players are definitely more elitist/obnoxious than xbox ones ..............................................

Is that supposed to be some kind of sarcastic cheapshot?

[dumdum2]

upinya slayin wrote...
Becuase its not immature. 

Yes it is. Though you will probably never understand that since immature people are immature because they can't understand that they in fact are immature. Did you get all of this or do I need to explain on a deeper level?