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[Leviathan DLC] Short review - contains spoilers.


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Well, I'm not the first, but also not the last one doing such review. Actually, it's less of a review than more like a small essay.

In very short words: my expectations bar wasn't set too high for this DLC, and the DLC passed it without any problems. Leviathan comes with an interesting plot that's similar in length like the plot of the Quarian/Geth conflict - roughly 3 - 4 hours of play time.
The plot itself was crafted carefully and tries to solve some loose ends caused by the basic story: who're the creators of the Reapers? What had happen to them? How long do the Reapers exist already? Why did they create the Mass Relay Network? All those questions got answered.

Are the Leviathans friends? Hardly. They seem to see themselves as "master race" everyone else should obey, that's what I can read from their lines. Their only goal is to enslave or destroy the Reapers and ... well, whatever they have in their mind, it won't be very friendly towards the galaxy's civilizations. Maybe I'm wrong, but the Leviathans feel like the big evil, the Fiend himself, and you ask him to take down his own disloyal demons. He might do so, but once he's done, he'll come after you.

In some way the Leviathans and the Reapers remind me of Quarians and Geth: both races created synthetics, just in one case the synthetics turned into the galaxy's scourge while the Geth aren't evil at all. It all depends on the programming ...

The plot is impressive, but also features some plot holes. I'll name only a few:

- Vega's presence in the lab
Sorry - why's Shepard surprised Vega made it to the lab? There's no second car in the garden outside, so Vega must have been with Shepard the entire time. And still Shepard reacts as if Vega just showed up.
A detail, but a bit annoying.

- Long lifespan
Well, we know the Leviathan of Dis is a billion years old - and it's one of the oldest Reapers. That means, the Leviathans existed for more than a billion years. That isn't impossible, however, I doubt the Leviathans in ME3 are THAT old. If they can reach such lifespans, they never would have undergone evolution in THIS universe. They must be much older than our universe - which is impossible. Nothing can survive a full-universe-singularity (big bang). 
Well, maybe one Leviathan can expect a lifespan of a million years, empowered by genetical engineering and cybernetic implants - and they can grow even older if they go into hybernation. That's very likely, but then I wonder why they never tried to come back in the time between those cycles ... why did they vanish from the screen for a billion years? Why didn't they try to manipulate races earlier to prepare them for that war?

- Curbstomp da Reaper
The three seen Leviathans are able to take down a Sovereign-class Reaper without any difficulties. It simply drops dead on the water, case closed.
That makes me wonder how the Leviathans lost their war a billion years ago: were they so few in numbers and so many Reapers out there they only could flee?
Or were the Leviathans far less powerful in their time? I don't know, but it definitely blows a huge logic hole in the plot.

- Indoctrination light
The Reapers are masters of indoctrination - the Leviathans are not so. Although they seem to care for their victims of some sort (after all, that Mining Colony was able to survive for 10 years under full indoctrination while Reapers tend to abondon their troops as soon as they're no longer useful), the indoctrinated persons act -really- odd. Not to say "robotic".
It's funny: the synthetic race of the Reapers can make a person act like a normal person while being indoctrinated, the Leviathans, clearly organic, make their indoctrinated persons acting like robots ...
Worst of all: Shepard and his/her squadmates KNOW something is wrong but can't put their finger at it. Shouldn't they be aware something's wrong right from the beginning? 

Well, just those few points, I'll stop here.

Also, 'though it's difficult to notice, but the Romance has some extra lines. I counted one or two for Ashley, I'm sure Kaidan got similar lines. Same for Garrus, Liara and Tali - the LIs you can pick as squadmates for the mission. The "romantic line" appears before Shepard does his/her dive - and once s/he's back. It's nothing special and less that I had expected from the leaked files, but at least it's still in there.

Another nice idea was to introduce new weapon mods known from the coop modus with that DLC.

Overall, I think the DLC was worth the money, thanks to a quite extented play time. It fits the lore so far and gives some extra information, 'though not without adding new logic issues too.
If other plot DLCs come with a similar amount of content, it'll be worth the money - it just shouldn't be less. 3 - 4 hours of gameplay time are okay, less would feel like a rip off, more is difficult to do with a limited budget.

I can't wait for Omega DLC.
And I hope all story DLCs might add enough new stuff so it MAY change the end game. The refusal option should grant you a happy ending if you have all story DLCs :lol:

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CptData wrote...


- Vega's presence in the lab
Sorry - why's Shepard surprised Vega made it to the lab? There's no second car in the garden outside, so Vega must have been with Shepard the entire time. And still Shepard reacts as if Vega just showed up.
A detail, but a bit annoying.


He could have took a cab.

Long lifespan
Well, we know the Leviathan of Dis is a billion years old - and it's one of the oldest Reapers. That means, the Leviathans existed for more than a billion years. That isn't impossible, however, I doubt the Leviathans in ME3 are THAT old. If they can reach such lifespans, they never would have undergone evolution in THIS universe. They must be much older than our universe - which is impossible. Nothing can survive a full-universe-singularity (big bang). 
Well, maybe one Leviathan can expect a lifespan of a million years, empowered by genetical engineering and cybernetic implants - and they can grow even older if they go into hybernation. That's very likely, but then I wonder why they never tried to come back in the time between those cycles ... why did they vanish from the screen for a billion years? Why didn't they try to manipulate races earlier to prepare them for that war?


It's implied that they're immortal, and they did try to come back. They controlled the Rachni during the Rachni wars, they probably controlled other races in different cycles too.

- Curbstomp da Reaper
The three seen Leviathans are able to take down a Sovereign-class Reaper without any difficulties. It simply drops dead on the water, case closed.
That makes me wonder how the Leviathans lost their war a billion years ago: were they so few in numbers and so many Reapers out there they only could flee?
Or were the Leviathans far less powerful in their time? I don't know, but it definitely blows a huge logic hole in the plot.


They emmited a pulse that disabelled the Reaper, they didn't kill it. They just repeated what they did to Shepards Shuttle. The Reapers didn't kill the Leviathans, the catalyst created a unknown army that destroyed them and turned them into the first reaper.

- Indoctrination light
The Reapers are masters of indoctrination - the Leviathans are not so. Although they seem to care for their victims of some sort (after all, that Mining Colony was able to survive for 10 years under full indoctrination while Reapers tend to abondon their troops as soon as they're no longer useful), the indoctrinated persons act -really- odd. Not to say "robotic".
It's funny: the synthetic race of the Reapers can make a person act like a normal person while being indoctrinated, the Leviathans, clearly organic, make their indoctrinated persons acting like robots ...
Worst of all: Shepard and his/her squadmates KNOW something is wrong but can't put their finger at it. Shouldn't they be aware something's wrong right from the beginning?


The Leviathans use a more primitive form of Indoctrination, the Reapers perfected it. What do you expect Shepard to do Shoot them all? He/she probably knew what was going on but needed to get the doctor, what would be the point of provoking them?

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Eterna5 wrote...

He could have took a cab.

Maybe.
But why didn't he take Shepard's shuttle? Why didn't Shepard know s/he might use Vega's muscles now?
It's still a plot hole ...

It's implied that they're immortal, and they did try to come back. They controlled the Rachni during the Rachni wars, they probably controlled other races in different cycles too.

Nothing hints the Leviathans did it with other races.
In fact, if they did, why didn't they try to manipulate the Citadel? The Leviathans either knew about the Mass Relays and the Citadel, or they didn't. If they did, they also knew the Citadel is the key - and should have sent some guys to manipulate the Citadel and put warning signs nearby.

Well, maybe the Leviathans indoctrinated the Prothean scientists placing the conduit ...
Maybe.
But not very likely.

They emmited a pulse that disabelled the Reaper, they didn't kill it. They just repeated what they did to Shepards Shuttle. The Reapers didn't kill the Leviathans, the catalyst created a unknown army that destroyed them and turned them into the first reaper.

Well, to me it looked as if they deactivated the Reaper permanently. Maybe it's not dead - but it won't come back online anytime soon.

I accept it, still, it's unlikely the Reapers aren't prepared for such weapons. EMPs seems to be quite old school and whatever the Leviathans are using, it acts and feels like an EMP.

The Leviathans use a more primitive form of Indoctrination, the Reapers perfected it. What do you expect Shepard to do Shoot them all? He/she probably knew what was going on but needed to get the doctor, what would be the point of provoking them?

Well, to me it looked as if no one of the team realizes the entire asteroid population got indoctrinated.
That doesn't mean they have to use violence or something - they simply should have shown more discomfort or comment the situation. Which the squadmates simply didn't.

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CptData wrote...

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I can't wait for Omega DLC.
And I hope all story DLCs might add enough new stuff so it MAY change the end game. The refusal option should grant you a happy ending if you have all story DLCs :lol:



Good points OP. Is it worth the money? Mhm....quite I'd say. I was left with bad taste in my mouth. Actually Omega is the only DLC I'm waiting for. Well maybe some extension pack for the main missions would be nice too. Happy ending isn't going to happen. Thanks to the Leviathans. I wish I could kill them in that dlc. Yes Levi thanks for Reapers origin explanation but you're too dangerous BAM! 

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Sonashi wrote...

CptData wrote...

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I can't wait for Omega DLC.
And I hope all story DLCs might add enough new stuff so it MAY change the end game. The refusal option should grant you a happy ending if you have all story DLCs :lol:



Good points OP. Is it worth the money? Mhm....quite I'd say. I was left with bad taste in my mouth. Actually Omega is the only DLC I'm waiting for. Well maybe some extension pack for the main missions would be nice too. Happy ending isn't going to happen. Thanks to the Leviathans. I wish I could kill them in that dlc. Yes Levi thanks for Reapers origin explanation but you're too dangerous BAM! 


Spending all the money just for a better victory?

No, that's not worth the money.

However, it's a nice extra feature you get for free if you bought the full set of story DLCs. Each story DLC rewards for itself by another story you can experience with Shepard and his/her crew. 4 more hours of gameplay are worth the money, so to speak.

See, I won't buy the DLCs just for a "perfect ending" - but I intend to buy any DLC that comes with a good, entertaining story and more interactions with my favorite character(s).

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Sorry for confusion I meant Leviathan DLC is almost worth the money for me

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Ah okay.

Y AM I NO IN MARKETING.
Or lead writer.

Or God. ^^
I wish I could change some stuff in ME3.

Just kidding. I could have done some stuff better, that's what I say <_<

Modifié par CptData, 29 août 2012 - 10:24 .