robertthebard wrote...
So you want me to actually answer the post, without coloring it with my opinion, and yet, this is not what you have been doing?
Because you seem to take issue with my advice, so I challenge you to answer the OP better. Can you answer the post without coloring it with opinion like me, without attracting any of the Morrigan fan clubs? If no, why are you taking issue with my advice+opinion if you can't give a better one?
How about instead of arguing my opinion is wrong, you build a case on WHY morrigan would be a good choice for the OP on his good walkthrough? And if you say because she is an interesting character to you, even that is your opinion. So why am I wrong for expressing my opinion?
I must have missed the post where the OP answered what classes he's got for the two closed slots. Is it human noble with dog? If so, why would you advise him to not use Morrigan in favor of Wynne. While I find that a mage isn't a requirement for successfully navigating the game, they are handy.
You must also have missed the part where the OP said he was new. Since he is new, it is important to choose the classes that make fights easier for him. And why choose Morrigan over Wynne? In terms of practical use, both are mages.
But Wynne would still be a better choice, in both gameplay mechanics (better healer and survivability) and storywise (for agreeing with your good choices). It's a perfectly valid reason to choose Wynne over Morrigan.
I am also under the impression that the OP thought that he had to either accept or refuse party members, as opposed to them waiting in camp. Which would fit with my first play through. When I accepted Leliana's offer, but didn't put her in party, and she disappeared.
I've already commented about that in my previous post. If the OP is only concerned that he will lose party members for choosing good options too much, then he doesn't need to worry because it won't become that bad. Either Morrigan or Wynne would be ok then.
So far, your overwhelming reason to not take Morrigan is that she will disapprove of everything. This is both not true, and doesn't answer the OP's question, hence the reason you suggest not taking her == you don't like her. This is a reason, but it's not a valid answer to the OP. Wynne is not necessarily > than Morrigan.
I never said Morrigan will disapprove everything. You are putting words in my mouth. I said I remembered way too many "Morrigan disapproves", which is true.
And it does answer the OP's question. Don't bring Morrigan, because she will disapprove of your good choices in your good walkthrough. How do you know the OP doesn't take that as important? You don't. Maybe he cares about it, maybe he doesn't. I just put it out there for him. If he disagrees fine, it's his game.
I don't see how my reason isn't valid to the OP, because people who aren't the OP don't like it. This is something you leave to the OP.
Even in an example you listed, Cammen and Gheyna, you can lose approval with Wynne if you just help them get together. So, if doing a good thing and losing approval is a bad thing, then taking Wynne is bad. I didn't put artificial limits on my first play through. Regarding bringing Sten into the coversation, I need only point at the topic title. Yes, I stayed on topic for my observations. I pointed out that Sten's disapproval hit during Redcliffe is higher than Morrigan's. Since you're using disapproval as the basis on whether a character is good to have or not, I posed the question.
Yes, only one disapproval which is clearly a bug. Even if you use that, Wynne's approvals for good choices far outweigh that one disapproval.
In one of my posts, I already suggested a party for the OP. Leliana, Wynne and Alistair. I already by default left out Sten. So yes, I agree Sten shouldn't also be in the party based on how often he disapproves. I don't see how it helps your point.
My first run party was PC rogue, Morrigan, Leliana ranged and Alistair tank. I had no problems keeping their approval high, which isn't really a deciding factor on whether or not a party member is useful.
Then what is the criteria for choosing a party member for a
good walkthrough? The OP specifically mentions that in his post that he wants to be good.
The criterias for choosing a party member for a good walkthrough are the roleplay aspect: approvals, party acceptance of the OP's choices and conversations. And in this case, Wynne wins over Morrigan. You cannot deny Wynne approves more than Morrigan for good choices, gives compliments for good choices more (e.g. in awe of Andraste's ashes), and also respond favorably when you be nice to her in conversations.
In the grand scheme of things of course approvals are not the biggest thing, but it is a criteria for a good walkthrough, which is something the OP asked.
And Merry Christmas dude! Hope you had a good one.
Modifié par Original182, 25 décembre 2009 - 01:40 .
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