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iakus wrote...

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The point is what people are saying is that we don't want it to go in that direction.  Have you played it with "no decisions"?  Try that and get back to me.  I like FPSs, but I know that's what I'm getting.  I like RPGs too.  But when RPGs become merely linear games with guns, they begin to be FPSs that are not as slick as a true FPS. 


Form what I've seen and heard the endings are more appropriate fro an action-mode "no decisions" run.  Shepard gets hit with tragedy after tragedy until the Catalyst finally finishes him/her off.

Those of us who actually put some thought into our choices get stuck wit hthe same ending though.


When I played no decisions, my paragon made all renegade choices and had renegade interrupts I never got before. 

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Edit screwed format fixed

What this thread needs is a little song I think. Mass Effect Karaoke Time Dee

This one is to the tune of David Bowie's Life On Mars and has a timely them to it. Shepard killed in a Twitter Quote and the convention scene provoked this lyric. 


It’s a god-awful small affair. Twitter quotes hang in the air
The developers keep saying no, and the fans tell them where they can go
And the mods are nowhere to be seen. The devs high on ego dreams
Art as insult or as an excuse, keeps me hooked to the PC screen
 
BSN can be a saddening bore, For I’ve walked through the flames before
I want to spit in the eyes of fools and I ask them to focus on.

Your cash been spent on the convention scene
Oh Man look at those egos grow, It’s the freakiest show
Take a look at these campaigns before beating on the wrong guys
The true fans only want their hopes to be known 
And They are the best selling show 
Take your heads out of the Stars Ha ha ha
 
It’s on the fanboy’s tortured brow as he worships the dying cash cow
And the devs have struck for fame, cause Shepard’s on sale again
See the husks in their ravening hordes. Troll their bias all over these boards
Hail Bioware spews from their mouths. Even though they’re being played for clowns 

But this song is a saddening bore, cause I’ve wrote it 10 times or more
It’s about to be writ again, My mirror is focused on

My cash been spent on a PR screen
Oh man listen to that bull**** flow, It should have had “air quotes” 
Take a look at the message then look at the bigger picture 
Oh Man I wonder If you’ll ever know,
We can cancel the show
Take your head out the Stars

Thank you for listening, i'll be here all night folks for requests:whistle:

Modifié par alleyd, 05 septembre 2012 - 11:40 .


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Someone has to take a stand agianst BioWare. Believe me, I have always imagined many ways to either corece and/or force BioWare. Even if it means the company dies with all the games they've had been developing.

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DrwEddy wrote...

Someone has to take a stand agianst BioWare. Believe me, I have always imagined many ways to either corece and/or force BioWare. Even if it means the company dies with all the games they've had been developing.


We should find out where each and every Bioware employee works (even the receptionists!) and take poo's on their doorsteps in the dark of night.

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Xellith wrote...

DrwEddy wrote...

Someone has to take a stand agianst BioWare. Believe me, I have always imagined many ways to either corece and/or force BioWare. Even if it means the company dies with all the games they've had been developing.


We should find out where each and every Bioware employee works (even the receptionists!) and take poo's on their doorsteps in the dark of night.


And put little flags in them with the Refuse speech! Yeah!

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Seival wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Seival wrote...

Everyone in BSN should understand two major things:

(1) There are many people, who find the entire ME Trilogy (including the endings) good or even perfect.
(2) BioWare will never change anything no matter how long your "last troll attempt" will continue.

Deal with it and accept the endings as they are. If you don't want to - so be it. Just leave. It's as simple as that.


1, no one knows the real number of people who are happy with the way ME3 ended

2. This isn't a troll thread, no matter how many times you wanna call it because we aren't ok with the endings like you


(1) Noone knows the real number of haters either. I prefer to think they are just vocal minority.
(2) This is troll thread. BioWare officially stated they will never change the endings. But you are keep whining.

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Funny thing is this "Deal with it" post is from the person that got mad at everyone that didn't agree that the original ending's Joker runs away and the Normandy crash scene was sometime in the future and it was a crash test of the mass relays to see if they worked.

And I see that's really mature-a troll post.  You didn't read it Seival did you?  I know you didn't so you are commenting on what you think it says which is really what you just accused me of.

And "just leave" well that's really a great idea.  Many have already.  Even people that claim to like the game have left, don't care to buy DLC and so on-how many great games do you think a company can afford to make if people take the advice of people like you Seival and just leave? 

Would you take my advice and leave if I told you to?  Would you take my advice and not post some of the "incredible" posts you have made?  No, and I didn't agree with any of them, but I never once told you to stop posting, never insulted you, nor anything else like that.  So, thanks.


And this is called shameless lie. I never gone mad at anyone in that thread. I stayed calm and polite. And madness was emitted only by all haters visited that thread...

...You really think leaving is better than whining? You also think that leaving and whining are only valid ways of behaviour? So leave already. You will achieve nothing by this thread. You will only feed trolls and haters, and force pro-enders to ask you to leave.

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Seival wrote...

Everyone in BSN should understand two major things:

(1) There are many people, who find the entire ME Trilogy (including the endings) good or even perfect.
(2) BioWare will never change anything no matter how long your "last troll attempt" will continue.

Deal with it and accept the endings as they are. If you don't want to - so be it. Just leave. It's as simple as that.


I disagree. Different places and people have said "never" about a lot of things, and yet things changed. Why because the opposition never gave up. If the opposition gave up no change every would have happened.

If we give up we know for certain nothing will happen. If we keep fighing there is still a non-zero probability of success. Is it not better to fight for what you believe in than surrender?

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Seival wrote...

And this is called shameless lie. I never gone mad at anyone in that thread. I stayed calm and polite. And madness was emitted only by all haters visited that thread...

...You really think leaving is better than whining? You also think that leaving and whining are only valid ways of behaviour? So leave already. You will achieve nothing by this thread. You will only feed trolls and haters, and force pro-enders to ask you to leave.


Umad Bro?

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Part 2 of my Mass Effect David Bowie Trilogy. Hope you enjoy the song

This one is to Space Oddity 


BSN To Bioware......BSN To Bioware
Take a hit on this and take the helmet off
BSN To Bioware commencing chilldown, the bongs switched on
Inhale please and hope you all love the songs

This is BSN to Bioware, your game falls short of the grade
And I want to know if you are still out there
Its still safe to come around here, We still care

This is BSN to Bioware, I've not yet walked out the door
Your game affects me in a peculiar way
The ending isn't that fun to play.
Here I am sitting in my jim-jams in a cold part of the world.
Mass Effect feels screwed and there's nothing I can to do


Though I've amassed so many different playthroughs my game is sitting still
And I think the writing stinks and the ending a crock of Sh-ha hite
My wife thinks that I'm obsessed, she's right
BSN to Bioware, your halos slipped and your direction is wrong.

CAn you hear me Bioware?
CAn you hear me Bioware? 
CAn you hear me Bioware? 
Can You?

Here I am sitting in my jim-jams far into the night
mass Effect feels screwed and that's it folks, good night

Modifié par alleyd, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:17 .


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Seival wrote...

You will achieve nothing by this thread. You will only feed trolls and haters, and force pro-enders to ask you to leave.


So why do you post in this thread you narrow-minded imbicile? 

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Seival wrote...

Everyone in BSN should understand two major things:

(1) There are many people, who find the entire ME Trilogy (including the endings) good or even perfect.
(2) BioWare will never change anything no matter how long your "last troll attempt" will continue.

Deal with it and accept the endings as they are. If you don't want to - so be it. Just leave. It's as simple as that.


I disagree. Different places and people have said "never" about a lot of things, and yet things changed. Why because the opposition never gave up. If the opposition gave up no change every would have happened.

If we give up we know for certain nothing will happen. If we keep fighing there is still a non-zero probability of success. Is it not better to fight for what you believe in than surrender?


Do you understand that "success" you are talking about will please one group of people by disappointing the other group of people? And in this case I'll be the first one who will ask devs to delete this abomination called "alternate ending". Then the others will come, and demand the same thing. And all this hate and holy wars will start from the beginning. Do you really think this goal is worth fighting for?...

...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.

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Seival wrote...

...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.


For someone who believes this thread accomplishes nothing why do you insist on posting in it?

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chevyguy87 wrote...

Seival wrote...

...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.


For someone who believes this thread accomplishes nothing why do you insist on posting in it?

I am a harbinger of your humility.

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Seival wrote...
...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.


So leave. Go on your merry way and leave us to our temper tantrums and our futile quest.

If you are so assured of your victory, why are you fighting so hard to crush any talk of something that apparently is no threat to you or your beloved product?

Quit being selfish, and leave us in peace. If you've already won, then Bioware don't need your help fending us off. If they allow us the option (OPTION, I SAY) that we're asking for, you have no obligation to get it.

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Seival wrote...

I am a harbinger of your humility.


That has got to be the most ****** response to a posed question I have seen on the forums lately. Congratulations on that nitwit. On top of coming off foolish, you also failed to answer my posed question, so I will recount said question.

If you honestly believe this thread accomplishes nothing why is it that you and all the other interenet tough guys find the need to pollute the thread with your tasteless swill?

Modifié par chevyguy87, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:50 .


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fainmaca wrote...


So leave. Go on your merry way and leave us to our temper tantrums and our futile quest.

If you are so assured of your victory, why are you fighting so hard to crush any talk of something that apparently is no threat to you or your beloved product?

Quit being selfish, and leave us in peace. If you've already won, then Bioware don't need your help fending us off. If they allow us the option (OPTION, I SAY) that we're asking for, you have no obligation to get it.


"Dissention will not be tolerated.  You will take your tragic endings and like them, or be crushed beneath my boot"

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alleyd wrote...

Part 2 of my Mass Effect David Bowie Trilogy. Hope you enjoy the song

This one is to Space Oddity 


BSN To Bioware......BSN To Bioware
Take a hit on this and take the helmet off
BSN To Bioware commencing chilldown, the bongs switched on
Inhale please and hope you all love the songs

This is BSN to Bioware, your game falls short of the grade
And I want to know if you are still out there
Its still safe to come around here, We still care

This is BSN to Bioware, I've not yet walked out the door
Your game affects me in a peculiar way
The ending isn't that fun to play.
Here I am sitting in my jim-jams in a cold part of the world.
Mass Effect feels screwed and there's nothing I can to do


Though I've amassed so many different playthroughs my game is sitting still
And I think the writing stinks and the ending a crock of Sh-ha hite
My wife thinks that I'm obsessed, she's right
BSN to Bioware, your halos slipped and your direction is wrong.

CAn you hear me Bioware?
CAn you hear me Bioware? 
CAn you hear me Bioware? 
Can You?

Here I am sitting in my jim-jams far into the night
mass Effect feels screwed and that's it folks, good night



Hahaha--This is a classic of a classic.  Great job, Alleyd!!

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alleyd wrote...

Edit screwed format fixed

What this thread needs is a little song I think. Mass Effect Karaoke Time Dee

This one is to the tune of David Bowie's Life On Mars and has a timely them to it. Shepard killed in a Twitter Quote and the convention scene provoked this lyric. 


It’s a god-awful small affair. Twitter quotes hang in the air
The developers keep saying no, and the fans tell them where they can go
And the mods are nowhere to be seen. The devs high on ego dreams
Art as insult or as an excuse, keeps me hooked to the PC screen
 
BSN can be a saddening bore, For I’ve walked through the flames before
I want to spit in the eyes of fools and I ask them to focus on.

Your cash been spent on the convention scene
Oh Man look at those egos grow, It’s the freakiest show
Take a look at these campaigns before beating on the wrong guys
The true fans only want their hopes to be known 
And They are the best selling show 
Take your heads out of the Stars Ha ha ha
 
It’s on the fanboy’s tortured brow as he worships the dying cash cow
And the devs have struck for fame, cause Shepard’s on sale again
See the husks in their ravening hordes. Troll their bias all over these boards
Hail Bioware spews from their mouths. Even though they’re being played for clowns 

But this song is a saddening bore, cause I’ve wrote it 10 times or more
It’s about to be writ again, My mirror is focused on

My cash been spent on a PR screen
Oh man listen to that bull**** flow, It should have had “air quotes” 
Take a look at the message then look at the bigger picture 
Oh Man I wonder If you’ll ever know,
We can cancel the show
Take your head out the Stars

Thank you for listening, i'll be here all night folks for requests:whistle:





Now, I wanna hear you sing, man.

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3D's back!

You have the attention of a poster infinitely your greater... We are 3DandBeyond... We will find another way!

*high five*

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Last number for tonight This one Bowie's classic Ashes to Ashes 


Do you remember playing fun games? In some earlier time
Have you seen the ending of Mass Effect? Oh yes Ah I'm afraid its True

They're still sticking with the Catalyst, "We're Artists, you must enjoy our art"
I've played all I needed to play, Morbid endings bore me.

The choices are nothing like thrilling. No way I would ever choose synthesis
I've got the money and I want to still care
I'm hoping to chat but your egos are growing.

Shepard is Ashes and the ending is clunky  We know we are being treated like junkies
Strung out on Arty bull****, game ending an all time low

Time and again I tell myself. I'm leaving Mass Effect behind
But the little hope voice keeps on calling me. Oh no not again
You're losing some valuable friends but you're artists, we must protect our arse
One flash of light, and your reputation is gone

I've done some good things. I've done some bad things.
I've done some things completely out of the blue
Want to know if my voice is heard Want to have a choice that works

Shepard is Ashes and the ending is clunky We know we are being treated like junkies
Strung out on Arty bull****, game ending an all time low 

Modifié par alleyd, 06 septembre 2012 - 12:55 .


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Seival wrote...

Do you understand that "success" you are talking about will please one group of people by disappointing the other group of people? And in this case I'll be the first one who will ask devs to delete this abomination called "alternate ending". Then the others will come, and demand the same thing. And all this hate and holy wars will start from the beginning. Do you really think this goal is worth fighting for?...

...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.


Seival, that right there indicates you did not read my OP. 

Please respect people by reading what they write before commenting on what you assume they have said. 

You guessed what I said and commented on that.  You guessed wrong.

Please now go back and read and then see just what you got wrong and correct it.  I accept your apology.

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Seival wrote...

Do you understand that "success" you are talking about will please one group of people by disappointing the other group of people? And in this case I'll be the first one who will ask devs to delete this abomination called "alternate ending". Then the others will come, and demand the same thing. And all this hate and holy wars will start from the beginning. Do you really think this goal is worth fighting for?...

...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.


Seival, that right there indicates you did not read my OP. 

Please respect people by reading what they write before commenting on what you assume they have said. 

You guessed what I said and commented on that.  You guessed wrong.

Please now go back and read and then see just what you got wrong and correct it.  I accept your apology.


Oof, hope they got some MEDIGEL FOR THAT BUUURN!

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Seival wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Seival wrote...

Everyone in BSN should understand two major things:

(1) There are many people, who find the entire ME Trilogy (including the endings) good or even perfect.
(2) BioWare will never change anything no matter how long your "last troll attempt" will continue.

Deal with it and accept the endings as they are. If you don't want to - so be it. Just leave. It's as simple as that.


I disagree. Different places and people have said "never" about a lot of things, and yet things changed. Why because the opposition never gave up. If the opposition gave up no change every would have happened.

If we give up we know for certain nothing will happen. If we keep fighing there is still a non-zero probability of success. Is it not better to fight for what you believe in than surrender?


Do you understand that "success" you are talking about will please one group of people by disappointing the other group of people? And in this case I'll be the first one who will ask devs to delete this abomination called "alternate ending". Then the others will come, and demand the same thing. And all this hate and holy wars will start from the beginning. Do you really think this goal is worth fighting for?...

...Forget it. BioWare are reasonable people. So your "success" is not possible. The endings were set in stone twice already. Deal with it. This is the only way.


Look with all due respect, I'm not asking for a wholesale change of the ending -- I can metagame the Geth biting the dust earlier so I don't commit genocide. Just a short DLC that has some fracking closure for the high EMS Destroy ending i.e. a rescue and a reunion scene.

It's not that difficult to put together. It won't destroy the fracking ending for anyone who is in love with Control or Synthesis. I think it would cost like around 100 to 200 MS points. People spend more on avatar items. It wouldn't take that long to do. It wouldn't alter DLC since the breath scene is in the original ending.

Control and Synthesis got closure -- Shepard died. Destroy got implications that Shepard lived -- then this all got clusterf***ed at SDCC and wherever else by various BW people trying to be "witty."

These are the same people that came out with DLC that allowed the Darkspawn to win in Dragon Age Origins ffs.

So STFU,.

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May I request a ME/BW version of Suffragette City and/or The man who sold the world?

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Last number for tonight This one Bowie's classic Ashes to Ashes 


Do you remember playing fun games? In some earlier time
Have you seen the ending of Mass Effect? Oh yes Ah I'm afraid its True

They're still sticking with the Catalyst, "We're Artists, you must enjoy our art"
I've played all I needed to play, Morbid endings bore me.

The choices are nothing like thrilling. No way I would ever choose synthesis
I've got the money and I want to still care
I'm hoping to chat but your egos are growing.

Shepard is Ashes and the ending is clunky  We know we are being treated like junkies
Strung out on Arty bull****, game ending an all time low

Time and again I tell myself. I'm leaving Mass Effect behind
But the little hope voice keeps on calling me. Oh no not again
You're losing some valuable friends but you're artists, we must protect our arse
One flash of light, and your reputation is gone

I've done some good things. I've done some bad things.
I've done some things completely out of the blue
Want to know if my voice is heard Want to have a choice that works

Shepard is Ashes and the ending is clunky We know we are being treated like junkies
Strung out on Arty bull****, game ending an all time low 





I have no lighter so my phone is lit and lifted up in the air.  But I'm short so I need some help here.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 06 septembre 2012 - 01:04 .