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[AresKeith]

iakus wrote...

ALl I really want is one ending I can feel good about reaching. Just one. It would most likely be the Super-High EMS Destroy ending. All it really has to do is show us the Shepard equivalent of the Normandy takeoff scene. Just show us Shepard's going to be okay. One breath isn't enough.

It wouldn't change anything that actually happens, just give a little more, you know clarity and closure. The very thing EC was supposed to give us.

and ending like this http://social.biowar.../index/13721326

[Vigilant111]

Angry Joe said it well :"Why the hell not a happy ending?!"

A good ending is long overdue, the purpose of making tough choices throughout the game so we can get the ending we want, its so simple and logical, so why the hell not a happy ending?!

[Iakus]

AresKeith wrote...

iakus wrote...

ALl I really want is one ending I can feel good about reaching. Just one. It would most likely be the Super-High EMS Destroy ending. All it really has to do is show us the Shepard equivalent of the Normandy takeoff scene. Just show us Shepard's going to be okay. One breath isn't enough.

It wouldn't change anything that actually happens, just give a little more, you know clarity and closure. The very thing EC was supposed to give us.

and ending like this http://social.biowar.../index/13721326

Yeah, that's pretty much what it should have been.  BUt htat ship has long since sailed.  It's far too much to expect Biwoare to backtrack now.

So now I must simply hope that one of the endings we did get could be "expanded" to be not so depressing.  EC got us halway home by showing the Normandy taking off from the jungle planet. Now we need to see SHepard getting off the CItadel...

[AresKeith]

Vigilant111 wrote...

Angry Joe said it well :"Why the hell not a happy ending?!"

A good ending is long overdue, the purpose of making tough choices throughout the game so we can get the ending we want, its so simple and logical, so why the hell not a happy ending?!

even thought technically it wouldn't a happy ending because the Galaxy is half of what Fallout is lol

[Vigilant111]

AresKeith wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

Angry Joe said it well :"Why the hell not a happy ending?!"

A good ending is long overdue, the purpose of making tough choices throughout the game so we can get the ending we want, its so simple and logical, so why the hell not a happy ending?!

even though technically it wouldn't be a happy ending because the Galaxy is half of what Fallout is lol

Yeah, I recognises so, its just syntax. What I meant was that a better ending than the one we have got would sufficiently make us happIER

Modifié par Vigilant111, 07 septembre 2012 - 05:14 .

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Vigilant111 wrote...

Angry Joe said it well :"Why the hell not a happy ending?!"

A good ending is long overdue, the purpose of making tough choices throughout the game so we can get the ending we want, its so simple and logical, so why the hell not a happy ending?!

Because they didn't want the series to end that way.

SHould have put a warning label on ME1, then 

Warning:  This series will not end well.  Do not get drawn into the heroics, romance, or derring-do of the characters.  Seriously, it will all end in tears at the very end.  Your chocies won't matter.

[AresKeith]

EntropicAngel wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

even thought technically it wouldn't a happy ending because the Galaxy is half of what Fallout is lol

What makes you think that?

planets burning, millions of lives all ready killed, resources basically slim now. Thats pretty much half of Fallout, unless you wanna go with Mac Walters original ending

[ObserverStatus]

iakus wrote...
Warning:  This series will not end well.  Do not get drawn into the heroics, romance, or derring-do of the characters.  Seriously, it will all end in tears at the very end.  Your chocies won't matter.

It's true, in the end, your whole life will boil down to picking the color of the explosion that destroys everything you love.

[Applepie_Svk]

EntropicAngel wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

planets burning, millions of lives all ready killed, resources basically slim now. Thats pretty much half of Fallout, unless you wanna go with Mac Walters original ending

Planets are not "burning." If you'll recall Anderson's words, he says that the Reapers are focusing on population centers--reaping, ya know. So that means that most places outside of population centers--like rural areas--the places that actually have recsources--are not bad off.

Millions of lives killed, yes. But if I recall correctly, aren't there like a trillion people simply on Earth? To say nothing of other species who've been about the galaxy far loonger than we.

Not slim resources, already established that.

What do you mean, Mac Walters original ending? This was the only ending they chose, and the only ending they've had since ME1.

You are either very naive or ignorant... War with the enemy which you can defeat and war with the cuttlefish empire are two different things, despite that main forces of Reapers are focusing on the important planets, rest of them sailing space and sending an oblivion in each direction.
Original ending was simple - Relay Network destroyed, they retcon this part as lot of others with EC to please guys like you which doesn´t bother with multiple plotholes surrounding ending of whole trilogy.

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

iakus wrote...

Should have put a warning label on ME1, then 

Warning:  This series will not end well.  Do not get drawn into the heroics, romance, or derring-do of the characters.  Seriously, it will all end in tears at the very end.  Your choices won't matter.

You're smarter than that, and I sincerely hope you're joking.

I would like to present you with a warning label for life

Warning: This 77 years will not end well. Do not get drawn into the heroics, romance, or erring-do of other people around you. Seriously, it will all end in tears at the very end. Your choices won't matter.



Aaaaaaaaaaand, I don't know about you, but I stopped the demigods who'd been culling the galaxy for more millenia than I can fathom--my choices sure did matter.

Gotta love how some folks equate a video game designed with entertainment in mind with real life.  

And what I'm trying to do is draw attention to the fact that Shepad's utter futility at the end of ME3 is in direct contrast to ME1 and ME2 where Shepard triumphs against overwhelming odds and walks away, while in ME3 the ending is filled with a sense of futility in struggling against the Reapers.  We can leave off on the details, since that's talked about to death on other threads.  But for the purposes of this thread, Shepard cannot save him.herself, regardless of chocie.  The best  possible outcome is a half-dead Shepard buried in rubble in a hidden portion of the Citadel  That gives me the unshakable sense of hopelessness and tragedy in even teh "best" ending..

Thus why I say the trilogy should have had a warning label.  It doesnt' matter who your Shepard romances, it will all end in tears.  It doesn't matterWhat choices Shepard makes.  He/she is destined to die on the Citadel.  It doesn't matter what choices you make.  No amount of preparation will stop that.  Defeated Saren?  Stopped the COllectors?  Past performance is not indictive of future results.  

[Vigilant111]

EntropicAngel wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

planets burning, millions of lives all ready killed, resources basically slim now. Thats pretty much half of Fallout, unless you wanna go with Mac Walters original ending

Planets are not "burning." If you'll recall Anderson's words, he says that the Reapers are focusing on population centers--reaping, ya know. So that means that most places outside of population centers--like rural areas--the places that actually have recsources--are not bad off.

Millions of lives killed, yes. But if I recall correctly, aren't there like a trillion people simply on Earth? To say nothing of other species who've been about the galaxy far loonger than we.

Not slim resources, already established that.

What do you mean, Mac Walters original ending? This was the only ending they chose, and the only ending they've had since ME1.

Oh no, its you again

The reapers focusing on heavily populated area is a strategic move, to inflict the heaviest damage on properties of value, you know, defence hubs, technology, people, Hackett himself said that rebuilding would not be easy

I do not know what you mean by the bolded text, it sounds like you are saying all those lives lost are expendable...human costs are huge in scale and scope when you consider the implications

[AresKeith]

EntropicAngel wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

planets burning, millions of lives all ready killed, resources basically slim now. Thats pretty much half of Fallout, unless you wanna go with Mac Walters original ending

Planets are not "burning." If you'll recall Anderson's words, he says that the Reapers are focusing on population centers--reaping, ya know. So that means that most places outside of population centers--like rural areas--the places that actually have recsources--are not bad off.

Millions of lives killed, yes. But if I recall correctly, aren't there like a trillion people simply on Earth? To say nothing of other species who've been about the galaxy far loonger than we.

Not slim resources, already established that.

What do you mean, Mac Walters original ending? This was the only ending they chose, and the only ending they've had since ME1.

You know what I meant by Planets buring, and there were Planets that the Reapers didn't even bother harvesting and just blasted them.

The Reapers harvest every advanced Species, which millions of each of those races were killed and they've all been the in Galaxy at the same time since the Protheans knew about all of them

Mac Walters originally intended for the Relays to go Supernova which would have turned the Galaxy into a Wasteland aka Fallout: Mass Effect, but they had to Retcon that

Modifié par AresKeith, 07 septembre 2012 - 05:36 .

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Planets are not "burning." If you'll recall Anderson's words, he says that the Reapers are focusing on population centers--reaping, ya know. So that means that most places outside of population centers--like rural areas--the places that actually have recsources--are not bad off.

Palaven says "Hi"

Millions of lives killed, yes. But if I recall correctly, aren't there like a trillion people simply on Earth? To say nothing of other species who've been about the galaxy far loonger than we.

About 11 Billion on and around Earth, as I recall.  Yes, that should actually be "billions' of lives lost.  Given the batarians are now an endangered species, the invasions of turian and asari worlds, human colonies, etc.

Not slim resources, already established that.

What do you mean, Mac Walters original ending? This was the only ending they chose, and the only ending they've had since ME1.

The words "galactic wasteland" spring to mind.  His own words.

[SteelerWayne]

RiouHotaru wrote...

...You do realize they've already stated that beyond the EC they don't plan to change the endings. Maybe adjust dialog (like they did with Leviathan), which I'd expect. But you're never going to get a full adjustment. You're going to have to accept the endings as they are.

Amen!

[Iakus]

EntropicAngel wrote...

iakus wrote...

The words "galactic wasteland" spring to mind.  His own words.

I'd love to see proof of this. Regardless, I never saw any such thing in ME3 so I can't accept that it is. His words are contradicting what actually happened.

Wish Granted

[Iakus]

SteelerWayne wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

...You do realize they've already stated that beyond the EC they don't plan to change the endings. Maybe adjust dialog (like they did with Leviathan), which I'd expect. But you're never going to get a full adjustment. You're going to have to accept the endings as they are.

Amen!

That's fine.  Adjust the Shepard Lives ending to be more hopeful that Shepard survives beyond those last moments we see the gasp.  Include a rescue team finding Shepard.  Include the Normandy receiving a message that Shepard's been found.  Expand the breath scene to include Shepard standing up, climbing out of the rubble, or even radiong fro an extraction.  This is minimal work to turn "implication" to "closure"

Modifié par iakus, 07 septembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[macarius5]

iakus wrote...

That's fine.  Adjust the Shepard Lives ending to be more hopeful that Shepard survives beyond those last moments we see the gasp.  Include a rescue team finding Shepard.  Include the Normandy receiving a message that Shepard's been found.  Expand the breath scene to include Shepard standing up, climbing out of the rubble, or even radiong fro an extraction.  This is minimal work to turn "implication" to "closure"

I would like it very much if the ME team of Bioware expands the breath scene.  It is really a teaser.  By the way, although much has been said of the original ending, and on the EC, just recently finished an whole SP campaign again with the Leviathan DLC, the Extended Cut is great!  It would have been a more gratifying experience if the EC was there in the beginning when I first completed the SP campaign. Any new contend be it pre of post ending is very much welcome.