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[3DandBeyond]

N7 Assass1n wrote...


Specifically this part, I never thought of that. Most people who support IT have actually never thought of that. Really you can also relate synthesis in part to Saren who thought he could force it upon the Galaxy with the help of Sovereign. But I agree, the Krogan analogy under these parameters is much more suitable.

I think the thing is with all of those as analogies it's like they are either settled issues and making a choice is just re-opening them but on a much larger scale and with much worse consequences.  Particularly the idea of doing something to all people of that galaxy things that are analogous to what was done to the Krogan.  Changing people genetically as well as advancing them without a thought.  And yes, the Krogan aren't the only things that fit of course.  But it's like the endings are just overblown versions of what Shepard already did-issues Shepard had put to bed.

[Calamity]

3DandBeyond wrote...

N7 Assass1n wrote...


Specifically this part, I never thought of that. Most people who support IT have actually never thought of that. Really you can also relate synthesis in part to Saren who thought he could force it upon the Galaxy with the help of Sovereign. But I agree, the Krogan analogy under these parameters is much more suitable.

I think the thing is with all of those as analogies it's like they are either settled issues and making a choice is just re-opening them but on a much larger scale and with much worse consequences.  Particularly the idea of doing something to all people of that galaxy things that are analogous to what was done to the Krogan.  Changing people genetically as well as advancing them without a thought.  And yes, the Krogan aren't the only things that fit of course.  But it's like the endings are just overblown versions of what Shepard already did-issues Shepard had put to bed.

I find it funny that people say that Bioware would lose a lot of customers if they went with IT and nobody would buy. I would buy it in a heartbeat! ME3 was mostly fun to play till the ending and if IT was confirmed I would say it was $80 well spent as long as we get an ME4 with an ending to Sheps story that makes sense. Even those that say they wouldnt buy it...I think a lot if not most of them would.

[AresKeith]

Calamity wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

N7 Assass1n wrote...


Specifically this part, I never thought of that. Most people who support IT have actually never thought of that. Really you can also relate synthesis in part to Saren who thought he could force it upon the Galaxy with the help of Sovereign. But I agree, the Krogan analogy under these parameters is much more suitable.

I think the thing is with all of those as analogies it's like they are either settled issues and making a choice is just re-opening them but on a much larger scale and with much worse consequences.  Particularly the idea of doing something to all people of that galaxy things that are analogous to what was done to the Krogan.  Changing people genetically as well as advancing them without a thought.  And yes, the Krogan aren't the only things that fit of course.  But it's like the endings are just overblown versions of what Shepard already did-issues Shepard had put to bed.

I find it funny that people say that Bioware would lose a lot of customers if they went with IT and nobody would buy. I would buy it in a heartbeat! ME3 was mostly fun to play till the ending and if IT was confirmed I would say it was $80 well spent as long as we get an ME4 with an ending to Sheps story that makes sense. Even those that say they wouldnt buy it...I think a lot if not most of them would.

If I liked the endings the way they are now and Bioware was adding more to it or doing something like IT, I wouldn't mind it at all

[3DandBeyond]

Calamity wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

N7 Assass1n wrote...


Specifically this part, I never thought of that. Most people who support IT have actually never thought of that. Really you can also relate synthesis in part to Saren who thought he could force it upon the Galaxy with the help of Sovereign. But I agree, the Krogan analogy under these parameters is much more suitable.

I think the thing is with all of those as analogies it's like they are either settled issues and making a choice is just re-opening them but on a much larger scale and with much worse consequences.  Particularly the idea of doing something to all people of that galaxy things that are analogous to what was done to the Krogan.  Changing people genetically as well as advancing them without a thought.  And yes, the Krogan aren't the only things that fit of course.  But it's like the endings are just overblown versions of what Shepard already did-issues Shepard had put to bed.

I find it funny that people say that Bioware would lose a lot of customers if they went with IT and nobody would buy. I would buy it in a heartbeat! ME3 was mostly fun to play till the ending and if IT was confirmed I would say it was $80 well spent as long as we get an ME4 with an ending to Sheps story that makes sense. Even those that say they wouldnt buy it...I think a lot if not most of them would.

My intent is not to rule anything out.  Anything that can work to bring this to a truly satisfying conclusion with a variety within that conclusion ranging from losing all the way to winning and ending up with self-determination and reliance is great by me.  I'm open-minded about anything except the gawd awful stuff we have now.

[Calamity]

AresKeith wrote...

Calamity wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

N7 Assass1n wrote...


Specifically this part, I never thought of that. Most people who support IT have actually never thought of that. Really you can also relate synthesis in part to Saren who thought he could force it upon the Galaxy with the help of Sovereign. But I agree, the Krogan analogy under these parameters is much more suitable.

I think the thing is with all of those as analogies it's like they are either settled issues and making a choice is just re-opening them but on a much larger scale and with much worse consequences.  Particularly the idea of doing something to all people of that galaxy things that are analogous to what was done to the Krogan.  Changing people genetically as well as advancing them without a thought.  And yes, the Krogan aren't the only things that fit of course.  But it's like the endings are just overblown versions of what Shepard already did-issues Shepard had put to bed.

I find it funny that people say that Bioware would lose a lot of customers if they went with IT and nobody would buy. I would buy it in a heartbeat! ME3 was mostly fun to play till the ending and if IT was confirmed I would say it was $80 well spent as long as we get an ME4 with an ending to Sheps story that makes sense. Even those that say they wouldnt buy it...I think a lot if not most of them would.

If I liked the endings the way they are now and Bioware was adding more to it or doing something like IT, I wouldn't mind it at all

I dont mind the endings too much after EC but I hate being left in the rubble. <_<  I still dont like that they changed the mechanics of the game from SM in ME2 but I can live with the destroy ending now. I would still pay another $80 for ME4 if IT was confirmed...shoot I would pay it even if destroy was cannon and my shep lived. 

[Snypy]

GarvakD wrote...

Snypy wrote...

zioninzion wrote...

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Why would IT be suicide for the company and cause mass backlash? In my mind it would be the most incredible thing. Regardless of whether its true or not and without descending this thread into a massive IT argument, wouldnt the concept that at the end of the game that anyone who thought synethesis and control were the right decisions themselves were indoctrinated? The whole game there was the possibility of any of the characters to be indoctrinated but in the end they would have done such a good job that the player themselves could have been indoctrinated too (despite the evidence against listening to the reapers).

I just think that would make this the most incredible and revolutionary ending/continuing of a series. Who would be pissed? I am sure most of th people who got it "wrong" if it IT exists who have a more "whoa moment" than being mad.

BioWare's reputation is quite fragile, particularly after so much misinformation about ME3 before it was released. If the lead writer came out today and said that the ending was merely a hallucination and everything players did was absolutely meaningless, BioWare would have a very hard time convincing people to buy its products again, mainly because of mistrust. You can see for yourself that the sheer majority of ME3 players believe the destination is as important as the journey itself. After all, this is also one of the main reasons why the Extended Cut was released. Imagine for a second what would happen if everyone was told that the destination in ME3 is the death of everyone in the galaxy, regardless of the decisions the player made throughout the trilogy.

To address your opinion: would it be revolutionary? Sure, it would be. But few revolutions bear fruit in the end. Anyway, there's no concerete evidence to prove that the IT supporters are correct, only (far-fetched) speculations. (You can tell me the best reason why you think the IT is correct. I guess 3D won't like this discussion here, though.)

Plus a lot of the IT "evidence" is just stuff that is simply poor game design, oversight, and coincidence in my eyes.  Nothing really solid.  I almost accepted IT out of denial in hopes for something better.  But I got over that fast.  Maybe thats why so many believe it?  

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

[SpamBot2000]

Maybe not so much in denial as pointing out to BioWare: "Look, here is a way back from the ledge you can take while maintaining that was the plan all along."

[Snypy]

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Maybe not so much in denial as pointing out to BioWare: "Look, here is a way back from the ledge you can take while maintaining that was the plan all along."

Aha. If I remember correctly, some BioWare employees said the IT is a fanfic. Besides, if the writers wanted to embrace the theory, they would have done so in the Ext. cut DLC.

Modifié par Snypy, 26 septembre 2012 - 10:44 .

[Ozida]

Snypy wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Maybe not so much in denial as pointing out to BioWare: "Look, here is a way back from the ledge you can take while maintaining that was the plan all along."

Aha. If I remember correctly, some BioWare employees said the IT is a fanfic. Besides, if the writers wanted to embrace the theory, they would have done so in the Ext. cut DLC.

Well, it seems as their loss, to be honest. I personally never cared about IT too much, but it could've been an interesting twist in the story. Besides, based on recent Survey, a lot of people would prefer IT instead
of what got. With IT it seems that fans made it very easy for BioWare to win after ending fiasco. I have to admit that should BW go with IT before EC, I would’ve feel ashamed for bashing them and would praise their creativity. Instead they did what they did and that’s just disappointing. It's like players give them every single possibility to make peace, and BW rejects each one of them. I do not understand how can they treat their fans so poorly.

I also honestly cannot understand how BioWare can talk about new game at this point. Their marketing department must do miracles to make most of fan base excited about it again.

Modifié par Ozida, 26 septembre 2012 - 11:33 .

[Snypy]

Ozida wrote...

Snypy wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Maybe not so much in denial as pointing out to BioWare: "Look, here is a way back from the ledge you can take while maintaining that was the plan all along."

Aha. If I remember correctly, some BioWare employees said the IT is a fanfic. Besides, if the writers wanted to embrace the theory, they would have done so in the Ext. cut DLC.

Well, it seems as their loss, to be honest. I personally never cared about IT too much, but it could've been an interesting twist in the story. Besides, based on recent Survey, a lot of people would prefer IT instead
of what got. With IT it seems that fans made it very easy for BioWare to win after ending fiasco. I have to admit that should BW go with IT before EC, I would’ve feel ashamed for bashing them and would praise their creativity. Instead they did what they did and that’s just disappointing. It's like players give them every single possibility to make peace, and BW rejects each one of them. I do not understand how can they treat their fans so poorly.

I also honestly cannot understand how BioWare can talk about new game at this point. Their marketing department must do miracles to make most of fan base excited about it again.

Given the fact that the IT is based on so many (often far-fetched) speculations, I think it would be more difficult to explain than the space magic.

Anyway, we don't know anything about the next ME game at this time. Maybe BioWare made the decision to radically change the target group for the game and therefore doesn't have to worry about the customers who are unsatisfied with ME3.

[3DandBeyond]

Ozida wrote...

Snypy wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

Maybe not so much in denial as pointing out to BioWare: "Look, here is a way back from the ledge you can take while maintaining that was the plan all along."

Aha. If I remember correctly, some BioWare employees said the IT is a fanfic. Besides, if the writers wanted to embrace the theory, they would have done so in the Ext. cut DLC.

Well, it seems as their loss, to be honest. I personally never cared about IT too much, but it could've been an interesting twist in the story. Besides, based on recent Survey, a lot of people would prefer IT instead
of what got. With IT it seems that fans made it very easy for BioWare to win after ending fiasco. I have to admit that should BW go with IT before EC, I would’ve feel ashamed for bashing them and would praise their creativity. Instead they did what they did and that’s just disappointing. It's like players give them every single possibility to make peace, and BW rejects each one of them. I do not understand how can they treat their fans so poorly.

I also honestly cannot understand how BioWare can talk about new game at this point. Their marketing department must do miracles to make most of fan base excited about it again.

IT has a lot of compettling aspects and as yet, nothing does really dispute it.  In fact, consider that Leviathan adds to information about where it may well have come from-the Leviathan's thrall.  It seems the machines that became reapers use indoctrination that is similart to but better than the thrall in some ways.  Worse for people, but better for the reapers.  Now, I have issues with it, but nothing suggested by it is as yet ruled out.  And I wouldn't put any stock in this point at what BW employees have said-they've at times said IT doesn't fit and then have said it does.  Anyone at this point that ever says, "Bioware said this..." as proof of something written in concrete, needs to really look back and see what other things they've said that ended up not being true.  It's almost like you need to look at what they don't say or the opposite of what they do say and think therein lies the truth.

The problem is the writers considered IT as a way to end this story or as a major theme and then abandoned it, or so they said, but it appears they just left in all those things pointing to it because perhaps it would have been too costly to re-do all that stuff.  And they may still have considered using it.  I mean anyone who thinks that choosing control doesn't imply (clearly the writers have implied this) that a person who believed it was possible was indoctrinated and so Shepard could be, is dreaming.  Even the "wake up" opening sentence of the kid's is out of place.  I don't know many people that actually sleep on their hands and knees.  I'm not saying IT would be the ending - I have no idea where BW might be going with this.  Anything is possible.  But, often it's the writers who limit what's possible.

And if that marketing department is made up of more people like the guy who said ME had been out since 2007, which he calculates to be 8 years and then says that at the end of ME3 you won't even care about your LI or friends because this is war!  And, that no one would remember the events of ME or ME2, because no one remembers back that far, they they're in trouble.  This person, Silverman, has no concept of the word fan, can't add and subtract, and doesn't know what people cared about in the game, as well as totally mischaracterized what the ending ended up being like.  War, my eye.  You could fall asleep through that.  How exciting!

[Dragoonlordz]

Snypy wrote...

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

I agree that the people who support IT are in denial, just like the people in this thread especially the OP regarding Bioware's stance on this issue has been made clear for months now stated over and over. Unwillingness to accept that is denial as much as those who support IT and PT and every other imaginary fan fiction theories.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:21 .

[3DandBeyond]

Snypy wrote...


Given the fact that the IT is based on so many (often far-fetched) speculations, I think it would be more difficult to explain than the space magic.

Anyway, we don't know anything about the next ME game at this time. Maybe BioWare made the decision to radically change the target group for the game and therefore doesn't have to worry about the customers who are unsatisfied with ME3.

But, it isn't.  Again, I don't want this to become about whether IT is true or not.  I am open-minded about it and I won't characterize anything as far-fetched.  There are things in the game that fit in with it most likely because BW did consider using it as a main theme. 

Just as the crucible was supposed to be a dark energy device (Conrad), and Javik was most likely supposed to be the Catalyst or Shepard was, and so on.

What I'm saying is there are bits and pieces of all the ideas they had for how this all would end and they didn't remove all that.  They clearly didn't ever have an ending in mind, not even truly an idea.  DLC seems to be geared to fleshing out the ending detail and then providing backstory for it all.  The problem is, most of it just digs a bigger hole because there's no way yet that artfully ties in ME1 and 2 to the endings.  Leviathan started to retcon ME1.  Omega will most likely try to retcon ME2.  But reatlly it might have been way more appealing had DLC worked merely to fix the things in ME3 and not to try to fix ME1 and 2.

[3DandBeyond]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

I agree that the people who support IT are in denial, just like the people in this thread especially the OP regarding Bioware's stance on this issue has been made clear for months now stated over and over. Unwillingness to accept that is denial as much as those who support IT and PT and every other imaginary fan fiction theories.

This is you being nice, right?  Have you ever had a constructive thought in your life?  Or do you exist merely to tear everyone apart because your life is so meaningless and sad?  I don't know you and you don't know me but you consistently make this personal as if your life depends on it. 

No wonder you consider the themes of the Phoenix to be stupid.  Apparently you dislike good qualities such as redemption, unity, and diversity.  You think suicide in the guise of sacrifice is coooool.  You think doing unconscionable things to the galaxy just because they may temporarily solve a meaningless problem that the kid was meant to solve, is somehow coooool.  You think sitting down and having a conversation with a boss is better than actually trying to win a war and it being written so the things at hand (including the crucible) would help do that.

You also think that acting obnoxious toward people who are trying to help BW keep fans and regain others, making DLC and that new game possibly have more available resources is somehow constructive.  Good for you. 

[Discouraged_one]

Woah easy now people lets keep things constructive!

or not

[Dragoonlordz]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

I agree that the people who support IT are in denial, just like the people in this thread especially the OP regarding Bioware's stance on this issue has been made clear for months now stated over and over. Unwillingness to accept that is denial as much as those who support IT and PT and every other imaginary fan fiction theories.

This is you being nice, right?  Have you ever had a constructive thought in your life?  Or do you exist merely to tear everyone apart because your life is so meaningless and sad?  I don't know you and you don't know me but you consistently make this personal as if your life depends on it. 

No wonder you consider the themes of the Phoenix to be stupid.  Apparently you dislike good qualities such as redemption, unity, and diversity.  You think suicide in the guise of sacrifice is coooool.  You think doing unconscionable things to the galaxy just because they may temporarily solve a meaningless problem that the kid was meant to solve, is somehow coooool.  You think sitting down and having a conversation with a boss is better than actually trying to win a war and it being written so the things at hand (including the crucible) would help do that.

You also think that acting obnoxious toward people who are trying to help BW keep fans and regain others, making DLC and that new game possibly have more available resources is somehow constructive.  Good for you. 

Denial : refusal to recognize or acknowledge, a disowning or disavowal, something that is being denied because you do not wish to accept it. If you think being in denial is offensive thats your problem. Denial is simply refusing to accept what they tell you or show you, if they never said was not going to do it then you would not be in denial but factually they did say they were not doing it. So you are in denial whether you find that word offensive or not. Why you seem to have a tantrum at the mere mention of a factual piece of information is silly. My post was factual, yours was an insult. Learn the difference. It amuses me that you "think" you know what I "think" though, so keep it up.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 septembre 2012 - 12:47 .

[ld1449]

Discouraged_one wrote...

Woah easy now people lets keep things constructive!

or not

lol never seen this one before

[Dragoonlordz]

ld1449 wrote...

Discouraged_one wrote...

Woah easy now people lets keep things constructive!

or not

lol never seen this one before

I agree, that is the best come at me bro picture I have ever seen.

[3DandBeyond]

Discouraged_one wrote...

Woah easy now people lets keep things constructive!

or not

Ha ha ha.

I don't mind discussions, but just think coming here to start hurling insults is really pointless and meant to do one thing.  I never see this person actually post anything nice, ever.  Apparently it hurts him when people want to see good things, kind things happen.

And, I do find that person humorous, but a bit sad.  I mentioned truly good qualities is places and he likes to follow me around in threads for some reason and criticize anything I say.  I bet if today I said the endings were just great, he'd disagree. 

However, this thread is and was written with the full realization that BW may already have planned a way to end this once and for all-they may even use an ME4 game for it or part of an ME4 for it.  And Shepard's torso may rise from the ashes.  Anything could happen-I don't presume to know what BW has in mind, but I wouldn't rest on my laurels and say I do, since they are free to change their minds.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 26 septembre 2012 - 01:10 .

[Jadebaby]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

I agree that the people who support IT are in denial, just like the people in this thread especially the OP regarding Bioware's stance on this issue has been made clear for months now stated over and over. Unwillingness to accept that is denial as much as those who support IT and PT and every other imaginary fan fiction theories.

This is you being nice, right?  Have you ever had a constructive thought in your life?  Or do you exist merely to tear everyone apart because your life is so meaningless and sad?  I don't know you and you don't know me but you consistently make this personal as if your life depends on it. 

No wonder you consider the themes of the Phoenix to be stupid.  Apparently you dislike good qualities such as redemption, unity, and diversity.  You think suicide in the guise of sacrifice is coooool.  You think doing unconscionable things to the galaxy just because they may temporarily solve a meaningless problem that the kid was meant to solve, is somehow coooool.  You think sitting down and having a conversation with a boss is better than actually trying to win a war and it being written so the things at hand (including the crucible) would help do that.

You also think that acting obnoxious toward people who are trying to help BW keep fans and regain others, making DLC and that new game possibly have more available resources is somehow constructive.  Good for you. 

Denial : refusal to recognize or acknowledge, a disowning or disavowal, something that is being denied because you do not wish to accept it. If you think being in denial is offensive thats your problem. Denial is simply refusing to accept what they tell you or show you, if they never said was not going to do it then you would not be in denial but factually they did say they were not doing it. So you are in denial whether you find that word offensive or not. Why you seem to have a tantrum at the mere mention of a factual piece of information is silly. My post was factual, yours was an insult. Learn the difference. It amuses me that you "think" you know what I "think" though, so keep it up.

I'd just like to point out that a lot of people that support the IT or PT have accepted the endings, I know I have. As soon as I played the EC I realised they were here to stay. But no one in this thread is asking for anything to be removed, just stuff to be added to it. And that's the beauty of these theories because they do just that. Plus it's harmless speculation, of which BioWare themselves WANTED. What you are doing now is not harmless.


This thread is now over 200 pages. If someone reads even a quarter of that they can already establish your stance on the matter. Therefore your continued presence in this thread only serves to incite an emotionally reaction from the people in it. With your avatar .gif accompanying my opinion. Failing this, the only other thing you are doing is bumping the thread to the top of page 1, an act which seems counter-productive to your viewpoint. I haven't reported you because I've chosen to respond to you instead, just be careful because your not conducting yourself in a constructive manner.

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 26 septembre 2012 - 01:06 .

[Snypy]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

I agree that the people who support IT are in denial, just like the people in this thread especially the OP regarding Bioware's stance on this issue has been made clear for months now stated over and over. Unwillingness to accept that is denial as much as those who support IT and PT and every other imaginary fan fiction theories.

Well, I think that the PT could be a way for BioWare to elegantly accommodate the customers who are truly unsatisfied with the ending. 

[ld1449]

Dragoonlordz wrote...



Denial : refusal to recognize or acknowledge, a disowning or disavowal, something that is being denied because you do not wish to accept it. If you think being in denial is offensive thats your problem. Denial is simply refusing to accept what they tell you or show you, if they never said was not going to do it then you would not be in denial but factually they did say they were not doing it. So you are in denial whether you find that word offensive or not. Why you seem to have a tantrum at the mere mention of a factual piece of information is silly. My post was factual, yours was an insult. Learn the difference. It amuses me that you "think" you know what I "think" though, so keep it up.

To be fair 3dans  pretty much reacting in a manner befitting to the fact that you're largely a dick in about 80% of your posts.

Your "factual statement" is also a backhanded insult as well so don't pretend to take the high road when someone reacts in an expectable fashion.

I don't really care. I'll hapily admit I'm an **** on these threads when I want to be

Modifié par ld1449, 26 septembre 2012 - 01:07 .

[3DandBeyond]

Snypy wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Snypy wrote...

Yes. Those people who support the IT are in denial. As I said earlier, it's relatively easy to make a very convincing video on virtually any topic.

I agree that the people who support IT are in denial, just like the people in this thread especially the OP regarding Bioware's stance on this issue has been made clear for months now stated over and over. Unwillingness to accept that is denial as much as those who support IT and PT and every other imaginary fan fiction theories.

Well, I think that the PT could be a way for BioWare to elegantly accommodate the customers who are truly unsatisfied with the ending. 

I agree.  It's not the case of thinking that just any old thing is better than what we have, but thinking that many things are.  It's also a way to say that those (a great many) people that have been left out at the end, who also paid money for a game that failed to keep an internal story promise, might be of value to the devs and to BW and ME's futures.

Modifié par 3DandBeyond, 26 septembre 2012 - 01:09 .

[Dragoonlordz]

ld1449 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...



Denial : refusal to recognize or acknowledge, a disowning or disavowal, something that is being denied because you do not wish to accept it. If you think being in denial is offensive thats your problem. Denial is simply refusing to accept what they tell you or show you, if they never said was not going to do it then you would not be in denial but factually they did say they were not doing it. So you are in denial whether you find that word offensive or not. Why you seem to have a tantrum at the mere mention of a factual piece of information is silly. My post was factual, yours was an insult. Learn the difference. It amuses me that you "think" you know what I "think" though, so keep it up.

To be fair 3dans  pretty much reacting in a manner befitting to the fact that you're largely a dick in about 80% of your posts.

Your "factual statement" is also a backhanded insult as well so don't pretend to take the high road when someone reacts in an expectable fashion.

I don't really care. I'll hapily admit I'm an **** on these threads when I want to be

Whether you think I am being a dick or not is irrelevant. 3D and you need to learn the difference between insult and non-insult. Saying someone is in denial is not an insult, it is factually true statement. When Bioware says no more endings, then someone says I do not accept that then that is denial. Calling someone a dick for example is an insult, saying someone is in denial is not. They are factually denying something because they are not willing to accept it. I am still waiting on 3D who said was going to report me for insulting her right at the start of the thread, yet has not done so because he or she cries "insult" whenever she or he does not like something someone says regardless of the fact no insulting was done.

I will also point out Synpy brought up the denial yet I do not recall you throwing a hissy fit at that time or 3D so I guess hypocrisy can be applied to your stances.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 septembre 2012 - 01:22 .

[3DandBeyond]

Dragoonlordz wrote...


Whether you think I am being a dick or not is irrelevant. 3D and you need to learn the difference between insult and non-insult. Saying someone is in denial is not an insult, it is factually true statement. When Bioware says no more endings, then someone says I do not accept that then that is denial. Calling someone a dick for example is an insult, saying someone is in denial is not. They are factually denying something because they are not willing to accept it.

Truly funny.  Of course it's an insult and you know it.  Own it.  It was intended as an insult, just as I could say, "now aren't you smart" and that would be an insult. 

Continuing to act this way does more injury to yourself than it does me, because it only makes you bitter or shows that you already are.

You went into another thread and called my statements about the Phoenix theme stupid, when I wasn't even talking about it there.  You're obessed with insulting me for some reason.  You sent me a hate message and then denied it.  You've acted like a very sad and bitter person and I pity you-if that's what you were aiming for, then it worked.  If not, sorry I feel nothing else about you except for pity.

Asking Bioware for something additional and asking to make it in paid for DLC is not about being in denial at all.  In fact, I've repeatedly said that we have what we have, but I'm asking Bioware to take a look and see if adding to it in a non-destructive way could both be helpful to fans who dislike what exists, would not impact those that do, and would also be at worst cost-neutral for the content, and at best might drive profits up.  I have suggested this might add to resources available for more DLC as well as for a new game which most likely will be developed on nextgen consoles (or with them in mind), which would be costly and would also be a big question mark as far as fans.