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[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

dreman why do you have such atrocious spelling?

It automatically devalues any argument you might try to make.

[darthoptimus003]

Icinix wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

Mr. Priestly, people are always going to be upset with the ending. And unless it becomes a rule that people aren't allowed to post about it. It is safe to say that stuff like this is here to stay.

I'll never stop posting to get my mote ending...

hate to say this but this right here what chris said is why after 6 mths. people are still mad
it sounds like BW doesnt care anymore

[Jadebaby]

They don't.

[inversevideo]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

They don't.

[inversevideo]

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

As for leaving Shepard's fate a cliffhanger, why?
BW has already stated that we will not be seeing Shepard again.
So why leave Shepard's fate to head-canon?

It's called an open ended ending.

In Inception, is the ending real or a dream? Same quetion with Total recall.

Bulsh!! ME3 is not a movie. ME3 is an interactive medium. We are active participants, not passive.
ME3 is the last appearance of Shepard. We don't need an open ending. We need closure with Shepard's tale.

Having a wounded Shepard take a breath, however long after that plaque ceremony, which occurs how ever long after the conclusion of the Reaper war, is possibly the crappiest ending to the protagonist's tale possible.

[inversevideo]

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

No. What do you have that is proof of life? Data file names? These exist outside of the game. LI hesitates to put up the plaque? How is that proof of life?

Contrast that with Shepard being burned by Harbinger, shot, blown up, bleeding profusely, and left in a pile of rubble, in some secret location, to die.

1. What Shepard is made of. Shepard body was remade to endure. Remeber Shep is a cyborg.

2.Breath scene.

3. Shepard ability to servive the impossible.


It 's really up to the player.

I can't go there with you. I can't. If you are satisfied with that explanation cool.

I can't process that much suspension of disbelief. Bioware forced us to swallow the impossible when they killed and resurrected Shepard in ME2. All ME2's opening did was make me wonder if Shepard was still Shepard, was still human.

Asking me to go there again, at the end of the trilogy feels cheap. It devalues Shepard, for me, and takes me out of the game I had been playing, and dumps me into a RoadRunner cartoon.

Instead of a satisfying ending I feel trolled.

[Ozida]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

Well, this is very... sad. A real "Ouch"-sad. I would have never imagined that ME will end like this for me. And this is the end, I guess.
If this is the case, it's not my fight anymore. Just to think that this could have been the best game on Earth...

Modifié par Ozida, 29 septembre 2012 - 01:37 .

[inversevideo]

And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?
There is a lot of Reaper tech in Shepard, I know. I found it, Glyph analyzed it, and it was added to Shepard. Lots of Reaper tech.

[ghost9191]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

that be great and all, just add to them ,  which he says that future dlcs could have a effect on the endings. so that might mean a improved destroy ending, more closure and such so hope be alive for me i guess

either way he says they can effect the endings, but no new endings, at least none that are planned so yeah still hope in that message ,

Modifié par ghost9191, 29 septembre 2012 - 02:42 .

[Redbelle]

Ozida wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

Well, this is very... sad. A real "Ouch"-sad. I would have never imagined that ME will end like this for me. And this is the end, I guess.
If this is the case, it's not my fight anymore. Just to think that this could have been the best game on Earth...

I know. When you think of what Bioware did to get us to ME3.......... it's like seeing the finish line of a sailing ship regatta only for the wind to fail and having all the boats just drift into each other. Maybe they'll make it over the finish line, but it would be tides and currents that dictates the winner. Not the skill of the sailors.

I know sooner or later this'll be let go. But casting my mind back to when I'd just completed the game all those months ago I posted that BW were in danger of losing the confidence and goodwill of alot of people if they didn't take definitive action to rectify their mis-step in how to end ME3. They didn't move fast enough and ppl began to hunt for information, leading to the discovery of the ending being written without the writing team peer reviewing the work, which in turn led to speculation that ME3 was running behind in it's development so the ending was written post haste, cause why cut out the team who wrote and crafted the narrative of  the game?

And................. nuts to it. I keep putting this issue down. But then I get curious, log back into BSN and get roped back in. I'll just state this for the benefit of others. Mass Effect is one of the most important, and by important I mean successful in so many respects....... game that has influenced the entire gaming industry. Having critics hail it as the Star Wars of gaming is no small praise and BW earned every bit of it. That's why I keep getting roped back in. The matter of the ending is equally important as if Mark Hamill dressed up in a Star Trek costume, took a collectors edition of the original pre CGI Star Wars trilogy and............ well I'll let imagination do the rest........... It's not important compared to real life issue......... but it is because we grew up with the stories and the nostalgia they wring out of us.

Maybe the game industry just can't factor the value of the love ppl have for moving and dramatic stroy telling. If they did they'd have a quiet weep over what they did to Mass Effect 3. The Star Wars of our time.

[CaIIisto]

I still find the lack of peer review incredible. Considering that this is where they've been headed for well over 5 years - astonishing.

I can still hardly believe that BW have somehow, despite all the goodwill in the world from the fans, despite the almost perfect platform of ME1 and ME2, and despite being in an almost impossible to lose position, have somehow managed to snatch spectacular defeat from the jaws of victory.

If people are happy with the endings that we currently have, good for them, I certainly don't begrudge them their satisfaction. unfortunately, I can't share it, which disappoints me. Greatly.

Mass Effect is a great franchise, IMO, one of the best in this generation. The disappointment is fueled by the fact that it really should have become THE best, and best by some significant margin.

[darkway1]

So the last hope for Shepard lies with Mass4....news of 4's story will pretty much decide Shepard's fate.

[dreman9999]

Killdren88 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

Mr. Priestly, people are always going to be upset with the ending. And unless it becomes a rule that people aren't allowed to post about it. It is safe to say that stuff like this is here to stay.

I'll give you a year till all you stop asking for it.

[dreman9999]

inversevideo wrote...

And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?
There is a lot of Reaper tech in Shepard, I know. I found it, Glyph analyzed it, and it was added to Shepard. Lots of Reaper tech.

"And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?"


Is that a serious Question? Look up Sheps cybernetic mods and you'll there is no point of asking this question.

[dreman9999]

inversevideo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

No. What do you have that is proof of life? Data file names? These exist outside of the game. LI hesitates to put up the plaque? How is that proof of life?

Contrast that with Shepard being burned by Harbinger, shot, blown up, bleeding profusely, and left in a pile of rubble, in some secret location, to die.

1. What Shepard is made of. Shepard body was remade to endure. Remeber Shep is a cyborg.

2.Breath scene.

3. Shepard ability to servive the impossible.


It 's really up to the player.

I can't go there with you. I can't. If you are satisfied with that explanation cool.

I can't process that much suspension of disbelief. Bioware forced us to swallow the impossible when they killed and resurrected Shepard in ME2. All ME2's opening did was make me wonder if Shepard was still Shepard, was still human.

Asking me to go there again, at the end of the trilogy feels cheap. It devalues Shepard, for me, and takes me out of the game I had been playing, and dumps me into a RoadRunner cartoon.

Instead of a satisfying ending I feel trolled.

Too bad. Just because you don't like it does not mean it's bad.

Most people too this cancept and ran with it. If you don't want to, that's your problem.

[Almostfaceman]

Lunch Box1912 wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...


I'm really sorry you've had these bad experiences. But pointing out the poor actions of others doesn't insulate you. I don't think you are intentionally trying to be selfish, but that is the result when you suggest that people with high EMS Destroy have Shepard live and low have him die. That is forcing a group of people to skip a significant portion of the content to get what they want.

Who plays a game to kill their character?  Honestly, really who?

Unfortunately the obvious answer is Mac Walters and Casey Hudson. 

[Redbelle]

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?
There is a lot of Reaper tech in Shepard, I know. I found it, Glyph analyzed it, and it was added to Shepard. Lots of Reaper tech.

"And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?"


Is that a serious Question? Look up Sheps cybernetic mods and you'll there is no point of asking this question.

Ah, but roll a character in ME1 as a soldier and see that alliance soldier's are all modded to a degree. Granted Shepard has more mods than most but those, I would wager, are essentially body function supplments that couldn't be recovered. None the less soldier's are modded and drugged to increase visual acuity, reaction times, etc etc. So the real question is, what mods does Shepard have that grants him an advantage over other soliders?

Cause, I don't thik he was modded with a 'Survive the destroy ending' mod. He might have something in him that will keep working when everything else is crispy fried, but he doesn't have 'Bring me back to life' mod either. If he did we wouldn't have a game over screen.

[I_eat_unicorns]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

But uhh, can  we still ask for a priority earth overhaul? Visit places like japan and other parts of the world to maqke it feel that we actually took earth back?

Or show war assets participating in battle like we were promised for the ec dlc, but didn get it?

OR dlc that involves unique n7 missions/land exploration, chain side-quests with temporary squadmates like WREX/wreav or MIRANDA?

Can't you at least give us dlc that should have been in the original shipped game like we were promised? 

[Isichar]

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

No. What do you have that is proof of life? Data file names? These exist outside of the game. LI hesitates to put up the plaque? How is that proof of life?

Contrast that with Shepard being burned by Harbinger, shot, blown up, bleeding profusely, and left in a pile of rubble, in some secret location, to die.

1. What Shepard is made of. Shepard body was remade to endure. Remeber Shep is a cyborg.

2.Breath scene.

3. Shepard ability to servive the impossible.


It 's really up to the player.

I can't go there with you. I can't. If you are satisfied with that explanation cool.

I can't process that much suspension of disbelief. Bioware forced us to swallow the impossible when they killed and resurrected Shepard in ME2. All ME2's opening did was make me wonder if Shepard was still Shepard, was still human.

Asking me to go there again, at the end of the trilogy feels cheap. It devalues Shepard, for me, and takes me out of the game I had been playing, and dumps me into a RoadRunner cartoon.

Instead of a satisfying ending I feel trolled.

Too bad. Just because you don't like it does not mean it's bad.

Most people too this cancept and ran with it. If you don't want to, that's your problem.

Your getting mixed up. Its not bad because we dislike it, we dislike it because its bad.

Also just curious wheres this "most people..." argument coming from?

[AnsinJung]

Can someone add the Bioware post to the OP? Not that I expect them to really come clean, but I'd be interested to see what was said without sifting through the usual pointless arguments.

Or if there was a way to jump to actual posts, I've love to know it. Team Liquid's spoiled me.

[N7 Lisbeth]

AnsinJung wrote...

Can someone add the Bioware post to the OP? Not that I expect them to really come clean, but I'd be interested to see what was said without sifting through the usual pointless arguments.

Or if there was a way to jump to actual posts, I've love to know it. Team Liquid's spoiled me.

There's a way to jump to those specific posts. Any thread that has a "Bioware" logo directly under it contains Bioware employee posts. If you click that, you will get the original post plus all Bioware feedback with nothing else between. Makes sifting for (official) information easier.

Modifié par N7 Lisbeth, 29 septembre 2012 - 03:50 .

[AnsinJung]

N7 Lisbeth wrote...

AnsinJung wrote...

Can someone add the Bioware post to the OP? Not that I expect them to really come clean, but I'd be interested to see what was said without sifting through the usual pointless arguments.

Or if there was a way to jump to actual posts, I've love to know it. Team Liquid's spoiled me.

There's a way to jump to those specific posts. Any thread that has a "Bioware" logo directly under it contains Bioware employee posts. If you click that, you will get the original post plus all Bioware feedback with nothing else between. Makes sifting for (official) information easier.

Thanks, that's quite helpful  

[SiriusXI]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Casey Hudson has said it. Mac Walters has said it. I have sadi it. I will say it again. The Extended Cut is the "end of the endings". While there is more DLC coming for both Single & Multiplay and that DLC may have some effect on the endings (such as the new dialog with teh Catalyst from Leviathan), there are no mote endings for Mass Effect 3 planned.

You can continue to hope and you can believe what I say or not. It is true that things do change given enough time (This is not lying, plans do change. Take for example that ME1 will now be coming to the PS3 as an example). That said the team is not currently working on new/more endings and has no plan to start. We are working on ME3 DLC and teh new Mass Effect game, not new endings.

Casey Hudson and Mac Walters have "said" many things that weren't true. You can say whatever you want, I won't believe you. I won't preorder or buy any Bioware game anymore until the ending is fixed. I might play some of them them though...

[inversevideo]

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?
There is a lot of Reaper tech in Shepard, I know. I found it, Glyph analyzed it, and it was added to Shepard. Lots of Reaper tech.

"And how is Shepard being a cyborg a plus to her survival?"


Is that a serious Question? Look up Sheps cybernetic mods and you'll there is no point of asking this question.

Of course it is a serious question. Destroy option targets Reaper tech. Shepard is full of Reaper tech.
Yet Shepard lives   

How about that?

[inversevideo]

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

inversevideo wrote...

No. What do you have that is proof of life? Data file names? These exist outside of the game. LI hesitates to put up the plaque? How is that proof of life?

Contrast that with Shepard being burned by Harbinger, shot, blown up, bleeding profusely, and left in a pile of rubble, in some secret location, to die.

1. What Shepard is made of. Shepard body was remade to endure. Remeber Shep is a cyborg.

2.Breath scene.

3. Shepard ability to servive the impossible.


It 's really up to the player.

I can't go there with you. I can't. If you are satisfied with that explanation cool.

I can't process that much suspension of disbelief. Bioware forced us to swallow the impossible when they killed and resurrected Shepard in ME2. All ME2's opening did was make me wonder if Shepard was still Shepard, was still human.

Asking me to go there again, at the end of the trilogy feels cheap. It devalues Shepard, for me, and takes me out of the game I had been playing, and dumps me into a RoadRunner cartoon.

Instead of a satisfying ending I feel trolled.

Too bad. Just because you don't like it does not mean it's bad.

Most people too this cancept and ran with it. If you don't want to, that's your problem.

It is too bad.  I don't like it.  Thanks for giving me permission to not like the CONCEPT.
It is not just my problem,  Lots of folks do not like it.  But i see you lack the tools to have an intelligent conversation as you are having too much fun trolling.  No problem.  Continue to troll we are done 

Modifié par inversevideo, 29 septembre 2012 - 04:16 .