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[Baa Baa]

3DandBeyond wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Adding something to my "story":

It was because I moved on that I discovered my love for new hobbies and games. One of those games being Mass Effect, which IMO is 10X better than Gears of War.

So if the endings bother you, moving on isn't necessarily a bad thing. You might find something that you like much better.

Well, thing is I can multitask.  Amidst complaining, I play kinect games, I'm brushing up on writing and working on a couple books, I've gone to visit relatives, went to the casino for a day, been swimming, played some Skyrim and Halo Reach, and Fable 3, started reading "Fleet of Worlds" and so on.  That doesn't mean I don't still have a wish for this because obviously I do.

I can relate some what to this.

[Baa Baa]

Moirai wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Adding something to my "story":

It was because I moved on that I discovered my love for new hobbies and games. One of those games being Mass Effect, which IMO is 10X better than Gears of War.

So if the endings bother you, moving on isn't necessarily a bad thing. You might find something that you like much better.

Witcher 2
Deus Ex HR

Halo ****ing 4.

EDIT:

Not an RPG but it will be a kickass sci-fi game.

Agreed.

I'll also throw in Aliens: Colonial Marines, which I have high hopes for.

/subthread

I know I'll love the hell out of that game. When the most recent AVP game came out I spent a ridiculous amount of time playing it since it brought back nostalgia from when I played those games as a kid.
I think I was the only one that actually really loved that game

[dreman9999]

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The other party being BW. They have a right to write the story as they like as long asit makes sense.
The op has the right to say they don't like the endings, but none to have it changed again to the way they want it. We don't choose the choices that are in the game.

Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all-oh hey say hello to the ME3 endings.  But seriously, if BW creates DLC for ME3 tomorrow that features a bunch of clowns juggling and they call it Retake Omega and all you evern see are clowns juggling, then using your logic it's their complete right to do so. 

So, I do have the right to say I don't like the endings, but I don't have the right to say how I'd like to see them changed?  Ok, apparently you have no idea how this whole discussion thing works.  It means it isn't constructive for me to just say "I hate the endings" because that tells BW nothing.  I actually told them what any good company would ask me in feedback. 

They would ask these questions:
What did you like?
What didn't you like?
What would you change?
How would you change it?

And you didn't hear the EA podcast where Jessica Merizan and Chris Priestly said they needed people to explain why they don't like something and what they'd like instead.

1. "
Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all "
Did you not read this?
They have a right to write the story as they like as long as it makes sense. 

EC got the ending to make sense, the new dlc made the endings make even more sense.

Added, you not giving them feed back. You just say you want to change the ending.

[drayfish]

dreman9999 wrote...

drayfish wrote...

Okay.  Sorry, I didn't realise that you meant your definition of sense, to your satisfaction. 

Although I am surprised that when the writers ran the Extended Cut ending by you before publishing it you thought that the Normandy flying around in front of Harbinger's face for five minutes while everyone got evacuated was a good idea.

My defination in sense? We just got a dlc the literaly made clearof what is going on in the endings. It's not my defination. It what is stated in the game.

Add, it should be claer that harbinger doesn't want to kill Shepard. Blwoing up the normandy while Shepard is right next to it would do that.

At this point I have to just accept that you are being intentionally, needlessly contrarian.

Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up, killing every one of the ground forces sprinting for the beam, but then backs off when a ship with all of her comrades is floating around at eye-level? 

I think it's fair to say that your vision of your ending satisfies you.  Everything else is and should be up for discusion.

Modifié par drayfish, 31 août 2012 - 12:45 .

[Jere85]

I support this thread.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Nicw way to warp it. That still is capitalism winning. If peopel still buy, that means peoplr still want your product. What your really concerned is getting what you want. Your nervous capitalism may not sway your direction.

Ok enough.  Dreman, I am asking you nicely to stop with the regurgitation of what others say as if you believe it.  You have said there are things you don't like about the endings and here you've called me selfish, when I was not, you are simply mimicking what others say just to say something.  You are not making any sense.

How does what I just said not make sense?

because half of the things you say has nothing to do the conversation

That post 3D is complaining about deals direct with the post that it was dircted to.

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The other party being BW. They have a right to write the story as they like as long asit makes sense.
The op has the right to say they don't like the endings, but none to have it changed again to the way they want it. We don't choose the choices that are in the game.

Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all-oh hey say hello to the ME3 endings.  But seriously, if BW creates DLC for ME3 tomorrow that features a bunch of clowns juggling and they call it Retake Omega and all you evern see are clowns juggling, then using your logic it's their complete right to do so. 

So, I do have the right to say I don't like the endings, but I don't have the right to say how I'd like to see them changed?  Ok, apparently you have no idea how this whole discussion thing works.  It means it isn't constructive for me to just say "I hate the endings" because that tells BW nothing.  I actually told them what any good company would ask me in feedback. 

They would ask these questions:
What did you like?
What didn't you like?
What would you change?
How would you change it?

And you didn't hear the EA podcast where Jessica Merizan and Chris Priestly said they needed people to explain why they don't like something and what they'd like instead.

1. "
Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all "
Did you not read this?
They have a right to write the story as they like as long as it makes sense. 

EC got the ending to make sense, the new dlc made the endings make even more sense.

Added, you not giving them feed back. You just say you want to change the ending.

people have been giving feedback on the endings besides saying change it, while you just chose to ignore what people say

[drayfish]

Creid-X wrote...

People claim they want meaningful morally grey choice in their games, when they get it they get horrified and ask for the white moral easy choice.

Do we really need the "Reapers die, Shepard lives and we ride into the sunset" ending?

This is so reductive.  A morally grey choice is not: hey you have to do one of the things that the Reapers think is great in order to win!  We are going to make you perform genocide, mind-control or eugenics in order to succeed!

A true grey choice would have been sacrificing indiscriminant lives, sacrificing the milky way - not selecting which hate-crime best suits your Shepard and then having no negative consequences shown in the ending cinematics.

The irresponsibility of that in a modern fiction is staggering.

[MegaSovereign]

Baa Baa wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Adding something to my "story":

It was because I moved on that I discovered my love for new hobbies and games. One of those games being Mass Effect, which IMO is 10X better than Gears of War.

So if the endings bother you, moving on isn't necessarily a bad thing. You might find something that you like much better.

Well, thing is I can multitask.  Amidst complaining, I play kinect games, I'm brushing up on writing and working on a couple books, I've gone to visit relatives, went to the casino for a day, been swimming, played some Skyrim and Halo Reach, and Fable 3, started reading "Fleet of Worlds" and so on.  That doesn't mean I don't still have a wish for this because obviously I do.

I can relate some what to this.

I was a HARDCORE GEARHEAD. I participated and even organized my own tournaments via the forums. For months Gears of War would be the only thing in my Xbox.

Moving on from Gears was not something that was easy for me.

[dreman9999]

drayfish wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

drayfish wrote...

Okay.  Sorry, I didn't realise that you meant your definition of sense, to your satisfaction. 

Although I am surprised that when the writers ran the Extended Cut ending by you before publishing it you thought that the Normandy flying around in front of Harbinger's face for five minutes while everyone got evacuated was a good idea.

My defination in sense? We just got a dlc the literaly made clearof what is going on in the endings. It's not my defination. It what is stated in the game.

Add, it should be claer that harbinger doesn't want to kill Shepard. Blwoing up the normandy while Shepard is right next to it would do that.

At this point I have to just accept that you are being intentionally, needlessly contrarian.

Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up, killing every one of the ground forces sprinting for the beam, but then backs off when a ship with all of her comrades are floating around at eye-level? 

I think it's fair to say that your vision of your ending satisfies you.  Everything else is and should be up for discusion.

Listen to what youjust wrote....

"
Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

[EnvyTB075]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Add, it should be claer that harbinger doesn't want to kill Shepard. Blwoing up the normandy while Shepard is right next to it would do that.

and why is that?

Because it doesn't make one lick of sense why he doesn't go for the kill on both?

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 31 août 2012 - 12:46 .

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

The other party being BW. They have a right to write the story as they like as long asit makes sense.
The op has the right to say they don't like the endings, but none to have it changed again to the way they want it. We don't choose the choices that are in the game.

Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all-oh hey say hello to the ME3 endings.  But seriously, if BW creates DLC for ME3 tomorrow that features a bunch of clowns juggling and they call it Retake Omega and all you evern see are clowns juggling, then using your logic it's their complete right to do so. 

So, I do have the right to say I don't like the endings, but I don't have the right to say how I'd like to see them changed?  Ok, apparently you have no idea how this whole discussion thing works.  It means it isn't constructive for me to just say "I hate the endings" because that tells BW nothing.  I actually told them what any good company would ask me in feedback. 

They would ask these questions:
What did you like?
What didn't you like?
What would you change?
How would you change it?

And you didn't hear the EA podcast where Jessica Merizan and Chris Priestly said they needed people to explain why they don't like something and what they'd like instead.

1. "
Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all "
Did you not read this?
They have a right to write the story as they like as long as it makes sense. 

EC got the ending to make sense, the new dlc made the endings make even more sense.

Added, you not giving them feed back. You just say you want to change the ending.

people have been giving feedback on the endings besides saying change it, while you just chose to ignore what people say

I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

[drayfish]

dreman9999 wrote...

drayfish wrote...

At this point I have to just accept that you are being intentionally, needlessly contrarian.

Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up, killing every one of the ground forces sprinting for the beam, but then backs off when a ship with all of her comrades are floating around at eye-level? 

I think it's fair to say that your vision of your ending satisfies you.  Everything else is and should be up for discusion.

Listen to what youjust wrote....

"
Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Thank you for the laugh.  I had thought you were serious before.

Modifié par drayfish, 31 août 2012 - 12:49 .

[Baa Baa]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Adding something to my "story":

It was because I moved on that I discovered my love for new hobbies and games. One of those games being Mass Effect, which IMO is 10X better than Gears of War.

So if the endings bother you, moving on isn't necessarily a bad thing. You might find something that you like much better.

Well, thing is I can multitask.  Amidst complaining, I play kinect games, I'm brushing up on writing and working on a couple books, I've gone to visit relatives, went to the casino for a day, been swimming, played some Skyrim and Halo Reach, and Fable 3, started reading "Fleet of Worlds" and so on.  That doesn't mean I don't still have a wish for this because obviously I do.

I can relate some what to this.

I was a HARDCORE GEARHEAD. I participated and even organized my own tournaments via the forums. For months Gears of War would be the only thing in my Xbox.

Moving on from Gears was not something that was easy for me.

I was the same with Halo 3.
I played that game and only that game until probably 2009. Mostly playing Jenga Tower with my friends on Custom Games.

[EnvyTB075]

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 31 août 2012 - 12:51 .

[PrimeOfValor]

Jere85 wrote...

I support this thread.

+1

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Modifié par AresKeith, 31 août 2012 - 12:53 .

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Add, it should be claer that harbinger doesn't want to kill Shepard. Blwoing up the normandy while Shepard is right next to it would do that.

and why is that?

let's look at the beam run....Harbinger shoots a weapon that can destroy as hip in one hit...It grases Shepard with an explotion.

Burns Shepards armor off, and Shepard is left in a bad shape. Shepard gets up and sees Harbinger still there.....Why doesn't harbinger finish the Sheaprd off?

[MegaSovereign]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

Harbinger likely thought that Shepard was dead. We see Shepard waking up after Harby is leaving the party.

[dreman9999]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

[Xellith]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

because

[dreman9999]

MegaSovereign wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

Harbinger likely thought that Shepard was dead. We see Shepard waking up after Harby is leaving the party.

Harbinger left after Shepard fully stood up with in Harbingers veiw...No way is a reaper that's been  chased after you for an entire game going to not reconize you.

[crimzontearz]

well Bioware does not care at all apparently......hence why I am giving my money to someone else until either Bioware starts listening OR until all is lost and they move on to the next project and discontinue support to ME3

[dreman9999]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

That's my point.

[MegaSovereign]

dreman9999 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

Harbinger likely thought that Shepard was dead. We see Shepard waking up after Harby is leaving the party.

Harbinger left after Shepard fully stood up with in Harbingers veiw...No way is a reaper that's been  chased after you for an entire game going to not reconize you.

So you honestly think that Shepard is incapable of being killed by Harbinger's attacks when everyone else around him exploded?