Xilizhra wrote...
The thing is that I don't want the Reapers destroyed. After learning about their not having free will... it just seems wrong to kill them all without giving them a chance; I very much doubt they'd continue harvesting without the Catalyst's impetus. This is why I don't see Control as heinous; I can release the Reapers later on, after all. I don't really see Synthesis as heinous either, although I admit that it's alien.
But if the choice at the end was between destroying and releasing the Reapers, and if Shepard lived either way, I'd accept that.
They may or may not have free will, but the machines that the kid's creators were put into were very likely killing machines. You are risking the whole galaxy on giving them a chance when Sovereign and Harbinger both indicated a knowledge of what they were doing and a willingness to do it-they were more specific than the kid since they indicated they liked killing. Anything that allows them to live is a real risk not worth taking. They are too big and too powerful to defeat conventionally and you get one shot to kill them. So you'd risk letting them live?
I can't stress this enough. You have to think about what they have done and what real people would think about that. I can only say that in real life there have been serial killers that people wanted dead-no matter what you think about their wish for revenge, it is real and it exists. And they don't only want the killer dead, they also petition to have their homes destroyed. Those are real human feelings. So, with control, you have trillions of people alive that have watched the reapers crush their planets and kill their friends, loved ones, and their people. Hackett wanted them dead. They killed Joker's sister. Garrus watched Palaven burn. Victus lived with the numbers of Turians reported dead that were constantly coming in. Liara lost Thessia. Whole colonies were wiped out. Then Shepard controls the reapers. All anyone would know is the reapers suddenly started fixing the relays and stuff. No one would know what was going on. Can you honestly say that not one person would want to kill reapers after all that has happened? Even their very presence would be enough to frighten many people for the rest of their lives. Do you honestly think Shepard would want to do that?
Shepard AI says it will protect the Many-which Many? If the Krogan and Salarian fight, who will the reapers protect? And I still say that uploading Shepard's thoughts and memories to a flawed tech platform can't possibly end up well-it allowed for the kid to create the reapers in the first place.
Synthesis is done without the permission of people involved. It also has a corollary with the genophage and with what Legion and the geth did not want-why they saw themselves as different from the heretics. It's inserting tech and integrating it fully with organic DNA. What tech? Is it tech created by those who created the kid-reaper tech? If so, again this is flawed, tainted, not good tech. Even so, how the heck can that instantly be inserted into all organic matter? And then, it leaves more questions open than it answers. The kid views it as the solution to what people really want, but that's not true. He sees it as perfection and the pinnacle of evolution. Ludicrous. It can't happen naturally because tech is artificial. It always must be applied by disregarding the will of the host body, the person it would be inserted into. But it also has an impact on synthetics-it gives them full understanding of organics (that no longer exist), which is something Legion said the heretics wanted but the true geth did not. No matter how you parse it, it is forced upon people without their knowledge and for many, against their will. This is also the reapers' and the kid's choice above all. So you fight a war against the reapers, lose untold trillions across several cycles, individual lives snuffed out (potential Mozarts, Mother Theresas, and da Vincis) all so you can choose to do what the kid wanted all along? Wow, that's winning.
And if Synthesis was always his goal, and the reapers were under his authority and control, then why would they attack the crucible? This is a conundrum that presents itself in the original endings and still exists. In the original endings, the reapers didn't attack the crucible and the crucible was where the choices existed. So, the question is for the original endings, if the reapers didn't like the crucible and the new solutions, then why didn't they attack it? For the EC, they do attack it but the kid makes it even more clear that he like synthesis at least. So, if the kid wants you to make a choice, especially synthesis (and he has always been trying to achieve it-as he says), then why would the reapers under his control try to destroy the crucible? Either way, the story cannot be worked out to fit. If they attack it, they shouldn't. If they don't attack it, they should.
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