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[dreman9999]

Xellith wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
"Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Did the doctor drop you as an infant? We clearly see multiple example of this "ship killing" laz0r beam of death kill numerous infantry units, it is a multi purpose weapon and the fact that it only damages Shepard makes absolutely no sense. If Harby had wanted to, he could have eradicated her right there and then. He didn't.

Why?

because

Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

[drayfish]

dreman9999 wrote...

Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all "
Did you not read this?
They have a right to write the story as they like as long as it makes sense. 

EC got the ending to make sense, the new dlc made the endings make even more sense.

Added, you not giving them feed back. You just say you want to change the ending.

Add to.  Add to the ending.  At this point it seems that you are being intentionally obtuse.  What is being suggested is that more options be added into the ending.  You are not being asked to forgo your conclusion.  You are being asked to sacrifice nothing.  I suspect that you know that, but rather than simply stating your opinion that you don't agree and moving on, you seem obsesed with trying to badger people into believing that additional content is somehow a violation of your personal resolution.  It's not.

And considering that you have already admitted that you were at one point infuriated with the ending until additional content was released your position is extraordinarilly hypocritical.

[MegaSovereign]

Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

Didn't know Reaper blasters had low stun settings.

Look it was a fluke, Shepard survived because he's the protagonist.

[Oni Changas]

bigmass41 wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

I support this thread.

+1

+2:wizard:

[AresKeith]

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

[dreman9999]

drayfish wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

drayfish wrote...

At this point I have to just accept that you are being intentionally, needlessly contrarian.

Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up, killing every one of the ground forces sprinting for the beam, but then backs off when a ship with all of her comrades are floating around at eye-level? 

I think it's fair to say that your vision of your ending satisfies you.  Everything else is and should be up for discusion.

Listen to what youjust wrote....

"
Harbinger tries to shoot a giant space lazer at Shepard's face to blow her up ..."

This a weapon that one shots ships.....Why do you think it did not kill Shepard?
And when it did not, why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off?

Thank you for the laugh.  I had thought you were serious before.

You never ask your self why Harbinger did not kill or finish Sheaprd off? Not once?

[AresKeith]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

Didn't know Reaper blasters had low stun settings.

Look it was a fluke, Shepard survived because he's the protagonist.

he took Kai Leng's plot armor

Modifié par AresKeith, 31 août 2012 - 01:01 .

[Xellith]

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

Modifié par Xellith, 31 août 2012 - 01:02 .

[dreman9999]

drayfish wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

Using your logic the story doesn't have to make sense at all "
Did you not read this?
They have a right to write the story as they like as long as it makes sense. 

EC got the ending to make sense, the new dlc made the endings make even more sense.

Added, you not giving them feed back. You just say you want to change the ending.

Add to.  Add to the ending.  At this point it seems that you are being intentionally obtuse.  What is being suggested is that more options be added into the ending.  You are not being asked to forgo your conclusion.  You are being asked to sacrifice nothing.  I suspect that you know that, but rather than simply stating your opinion that you don't agree and moving on, you seem obsesed with trying to badger people into believing that additional content is somehow a violation of your personal resolution.  It's not.

And considering that you have already admitted that you were at one point infuriated with the ending until additional content was released your position is extraordinarilly hypocritical.

That you clearly missed my point. I'm not say it's a violation of my personal resolutions. It a violation of BW.
I've been say that bioware is not going to do this becasue it's not the direction they want the stroy to go. Do you understand?
Added, i was only upset with the original ending because it made no sense.

Modifié par dreman9999, 31 août 2012 - 01:07 .

[MegaSovereign]

Xellith wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

You could be dolan.

Forced to choose between low EMS destroy and refusal.

All of you should be thankful that dolan is not Commander Shepard.

[dreman9999]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

Didn't know Reaper blasters had low stun settings.

Look it was a fluke, Shepard survived because he's the protagonist.

But he stood up right infront of Harbinger's veiw....Harbinger could not miss Shepard. Harbinger could of easily finish Shepard off then.

[Xellith]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

You could be dolan.

Forced to choose between low EMS destroy and refusal.

All of you should be thankful that dolan is not Commander Shepard.

Low EMS destroy is almost as bad as regular destroy.  So we lose the Normandy as well as earth/citadel and lots of casualties from ships... I wouldnt have any emotional attachment to any of them because Id be a husk by then >.>

[EnvyTB075]

dreman9999 wrote...
Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

We don't know that, you don't know that, stop trying to spin your pointless speculations as canon and find someone in game that implies that.

Oh wait, you can't, because it doesn't exist.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 31 août 2012 - 01:08 .

[MegaSovereign]

Xellith wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

You could be dolan.

Forced to choose between low EMS destroy and refusal.

All of you should be thankful that dolan is not Commander Shepard.

Low EMS destroy is almost as bad as regular destroy.  So we lose the Normandy as well as earth/citadel and lots of casualties from ships... I wouldnt have any emotional attachment to any of them because Id be a husk by then >.>

Low EMS destroy, as in vaporize ending.

The only plot important character that lives through it is Hackett.

It's not nearly as bad as regular destroy. Not even close. I mean we only lose the Geth and the Relays.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 31 août 2012 - 01:09 .

[dreman9999]

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

We don't know that, you don't know that, stop trying to spin your pointless speculations as canon.

Then why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off when Shepard stood up in front of him?

[Hudathan]

dreman9999 wrote...

Harbinger left after Shepard fully stood up with in Harbingers veiw...

No, that's simply not what happened. We see Harbinger leave the battle before the camera shows Shepard even begin to get up from the ground.

[Xellith]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

You could be dolan.

Forced to choose between low EMS destroy and refusal.

All of you should be thankful that dolan is not Commander Shepard.

Low EMS destroy is almost as bad as regular destroy.  So we lose the Normandy as well as earth/citadel and lots of casualties from ships... I wouldnt have any emotional attachment to any of them because Id be a husk by then >.>

Low EMS destroy, as in vaporize ending.

The only plot important character that lives through it is Hackett.

It's not nearly as bad as regular destroy. Not even close. I mean we only lose the Geth and the Relays.

Vaporize Earth.  A planet to which I have ZERO emotional attachment.  If the citadel was hovering over Palaven or something I'd be all "NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

[EnvyTB075]

dreman9999 wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...
Or that Harbinger did not want to kill Shepard.

We don't know that, you don't know that, stop trying to spin your pointless speculations as canon.

Then why didn't harbinger finish Shepard off when Shepard stood up in front of him?

There are not enough facepalms in the world....

Xellith wrote...

Vaporize Earth.  A planet to which I have
ZERO emotional attachment.  If the citadel was hovering over Palaven or
something I'd be all
"NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

I'd be physically sick...

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 31 août 2012 - 01:14 .

[MegaSovereign]

Xellith wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

You could be dolan.

Forced to choose between low EMS destroy and refusal.

All of you should be thankful that dolan is not Commander Shepard.

Low EMS destroy is almost as bad as regular destroy.  So we lose the Normandy as well as earth/citadel and lots of casualties from ships... I wouldnt have any emotional attachment to any of them because Id be a husk by then >.>

Low EMS destroy, as in vaporize ending.

The only plot important character that lives through it is Hackett.

It's not nearly as bad as regular destroy. Not even close. I mean we only lose the Geth and the Relays.

Vaporize Earth.  A planet to which I have ZERO emotional attachment.  If the citadel was hovering over Palaven or something I'd be all "NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

Maybe I'm assuming too much but I thought the blast also vaporized other planets?

[xsamplexample]

The endings are fine people! move on with your empty lives! Theres an ending for everyone!

Hate the Reapers? Think they cant be forgiven? JUST a machine? fine. choose destroy.

Want everyone to live? Want to use the reapers like TIM proposed before he went completely crazy? fine. choose control.

Want to REALLY change the galaxy? Although it was never presented in a positive light before, do you believe that synthesis would truely fix all the galaxy's woes? fine choose synthesis.

Dont want to choose? Fine. Refuse. See how that works out for ya...

[drayfish]

dreman9999 wrote...

drayfish wrote...

Add to.  Add to the ending.  At this point it seems that you are being intentionally obtuse.  What is being suggested is that more options be added into the ending.  You are not being asked to forgo your conclusion.  You are being asked to sacrifice nothing.  I suspect that you know that, but rather than simply stating your opinion that you don't agree and moving on, you seem obsesed with trying to badger people into believing that additional content is somehow a violation of your personal resolution.  It's not.

And considering that you have already admitted that you were at one point infuriated with the ending until additional content was released your position is extraordinarilly hypocritical.

That you clearly missed my point. I'm not say it's a violation of my personal resolutions. It a violation of BW.
I've been say that bioware is not going to do this becasue it's not the direction they want the stroy to go. Do you understand?
Added, i was only upset with the original ending because it made no sense.

In any case: you've made your point, surely?  Objection noted.  You have every right to feel that way, and you have expressed your viewpoint repeatedly.

As for Bioware, they will respond in the manner they see fit.  They will hear the opinions of their fans (including you) and they will weight it against their own judgement.

No one should be berrating others to fall into line.  People have the right to ask Bioware to consider adding more endings; people can express their opinion that it is not necessary.  But ultimately it is their choice - just as it was their choice to have chosen to 'make sense' of that ending with which you were at one point so furious.  They didn't have to clarify anything to you, but they chose to of their own free will.

Modifié par drayfish, 31 août 2012 - 01:16 .

[AresKeith]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Maybe I'm assuming too much but I thought the blast also vaporized other planets?

thats what Mac wanted, for the Galaxy to be a wasteland

[Xellith]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Xellith wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

 I'm not ignoring that. In fact this topic is about pleaing the BW to change the ending. How am I wrong to say a topic about changing the ending is about changing the ending?

because the endings are still there but added on

I'm learning not to take some of your comments seriously

Added on. Not a full change. Not a happy ending garunteed.

pls get this through your head, nobody is asking for a happy ending, the only ending can be called that is the Synthesis ending

Just for the record - I consider synthesis the worst ending.

You could be dolan.

Forced to choose between low EMS destroy and refusal.

All of you should be thankful that dolan is not Commander Shepard.

Low EMS destroy is almost as bad as regular destroy.  So we lose the Normandy as well as earth/citadel and lots of casualties from ships... I wouldnt have any emotional attachment to any of them because Id be a husk by then >.>

Low EMS destroy, as in vaporize ending.

The only plot important character that lives through it is Hackett.

It's not nearly as bad as regular destroy. Not even close. I mean we only lose the Geth and the Relays.

Vaporize Earth.  A planet to which I have ZERO emotional attachment.  If the citadel was hovering over Palaven or something I'd be all "NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU"

Maybe I'm assuming too much but I thought the blast also vaporized other planets?

If Hackett survived then that means that the energy wave didnt compeltely destroy him and his ship.  This means that its more likely than not that only the CITADEL wave actually caused the vaporisation damage.  The reason the Normandy crew dont survive isnt because the wave hit them and killed them instantly - but because the wave destroyed too much of the "technology that they replied upon" for them to land safely... or something.

That or they really did get hit by the citadel wave and vaporised. 

Hackett not being turned to cinders more or less confirms that at least he was able to outrun the citadel shockwave but not escape the blasts competely.

Least thats my interpretation of the events.  I just find it hard to believe hackett could have avoided all the shockwaves.  It just seems like the Citadel one was overpowered.

[KrazyKiko]

Amazing piece of feelings...well done. Take to heart BioWare!

[Xellith]

KrazyKiko wrote...

Amazing piece of feelings...well done. Take to heart BioWare!

What heart?  Bioware wants to control.  They get the brain. 

Modifié par Xellith, 31 août 2012 - 01:28 .