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One Last Plea - Do the Right Thing


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You pretty much just voiced some of my opinion, and i think you represent those of who dislike the endings, though i don't get why people who like the endings think you speak for them, they could always choose to ignore this thread some pro enders do, but i think they just like making everyone else who disagrees with them miserable, same could be said of some of the anti-enders though, still hope Bioware has there ear open to you at least in all of the BSN.

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+1 for the OP.

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To quote a mastodon song

"Don't like it walk out, we still have all your f***ing money"

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Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

To quote a mastodon song

"Don't like it walk out, we still have all your f***ing money"


That sounds like something that should be printed on ever EA produced disc you buy. In big bold red letters.

And again in brail underneath it.

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So it's been months and still complaining? Too bad so sad. Commander Shepard would never complain about a video game ending for months. Seriously, the endings are not gonna change, for better or for worse. Why waste your breath?

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webhead921 wrote...

So it's been months and still complaining? Too bad so sad. Commander Shepard would never complain about a video game ending for months. Seriously, the endings are not gonna change, for better or for worse. Why waste your breath?

Eh, complaining is free. and it's about something that once at the pinnacle and fell into the deep dark depths of mediocrity, to some it is a worthwhile endeavor.

Someone of us were enjoying the koolaid we were being served for 2.9 games, and didn't appreaciate the sudden overwhelming flavor of ****** at the end.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 02 septembre 2012 - 08:59 .


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even they should realize the money they could make by doing this , i could go for a new ending or not, would definitely buy dlc that affects the ending, for better or worse

i don't see it as a need. but it would also be nice for the dlcs to affect the game somehow , other than just a few war assets. because that is pretty pointless atm. I mean new cinematic of war assets you acquired through dlc. or hell cinematics of war assets you got in the original game

Like for me, dlcs are good but if they don't affect the story much there isn't really much point considering we already know how it ends, i mean yeah for the story but it just seems pointless if it doesn't even give us a cinematic of a ship taking down a reaper or some bs

they can add on to the ending without changing it, and i don't think they should be so quick to dismiss that idea

Modifié par ghost9191, 02 septembre 2012 - 09:08 .


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Conan Doyle proclaimed he would never change the ending after he penned Holmes' death at Reichenbach Falls. Then he did. After his fans demanded it.

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PuppiesOfDeath2 wrote...

Conan Doyle proclaimed he would never change the ending after he penned Holmes' death at Reichenbach Falls. Then he did. After his fans demanded it.


HOW DARE THOSE FANS QUESTION HIS ART!

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Warrior Craess wrote...

IamDanThaMan wrote...

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Xellith wrote...

So people who dont understand synthesis are paraphrasing "dumb" because we didnt pick up seondary material to explain everything?

Sounds legit.

Even worst, his quote does absolutely nothing to hint at synthesis being possible. I mean, just think about it, if all it took were Reaper nanites, the Reapers could have gotten Synthesis knocked out a long time ago.


Play the end of the game again. The catalyst says it was not possible until the crucible was combined with the citadel. Also, Shepard was needed to provide a blue-print.

Seriously, this is not a big leap. I figured this out before the EC even came out, and with the EC, it is even more obvious. YOu are just trying to refute it because it disproves your point.

PS. I am very much enjoying the fact that I totally derailed this thread and that it is now about the explanation of synthesis.


Incorrect, he states it has been done before, and always failed, becuase it "can not be forced"  Explain to me how 1 person of untold trillions of people, making that choice isn't forcing it? 

What they couldn't find someone of similiar mind set to shepard in who knows how many cycles? 

really?

Being deliberately obtuse does not help forward an arguement, it just makes you deliberately obtuse.  According to the Catalyst, Shepard is the first organic ever to get there.  According to everything we know, we are the first to actually deploy the Crucible.  whether this opens up the possibility or not is beside the point, as far as I'm concerned.  All of these endings are moot.  The game ends in London, and any discussion of anything after is officially supported headcanon as far as I'm concerned.  Now if they'd only make the legend save at the beam, I'd be a happy camper.  Shep's dead, and cannot come back to haunt any future installments, and EMS determines how much longer the galaxy resists before they get sucked into a new Reaper or two.

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I support this thread.

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N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

Lmao. You would think that one would want everyone else to also enjoy the game they love. That's so incredibly childish, that I can't believe it. It's not as if those few downers have to choose it. They can still have their bleak, wasteland ending. Nobody cares as long as they like it. It's like being a bully in school. You're just against that kid for the sake of it even though he didn't even do anything to you. Just cause he has a different preference than you. Those kinds of people need to grow up. If an overwhelming amount of people would choose that ending, those people should support us, cause we support them. We don't want their endings changed. We want one for us, too.

I'm going to come off cold and logical here, but hey, what can I say?  I'm against any ending where Shepard lives.  This is Shepard's last gasp for Mass Effect, and I find it fitting that Shepard dies.  All I have to do to see what happens when a protagonist in a BioWare game isn't central to a story, but alive is go over to the DA forums.  What I find incredibly childish is calling somebody else childish when they don't agree with you, for whatever reason.  This is the kind of behavior I expect from my granddaughters, the oldest being 12.

I am neither for, nor against 3D's proposals.  I have my ending, if they'd add my legend save, and I love it.  It accomplishes everything I need to accomplish, and I don't expect that anyone would agree with me, although it has had some recognition, even in this very thread, as a legitimate ending.  What I do oppose is somebody bashing somebody else for their beliefs, while believing they should be immune to being bashed for their own beliefs.  This does not constitute dialog, or discussion, and is why even though I have views in common with others in this thread, I do not necessarily support them.  If they made a rainbows and butterflies ending to this series, I would not buy it.  I have been under the impression since Mass Effect that beating the Reapers on their terms would be impossible.

I don't skip the endings because I feel like they're bad, even though I don't like how they handled the Crucible.  I skip the endings because to me, the DeM of surviving being nuked by Harbinger, which I see as on par with the Lazarus Project, where, if you have enough credits, you can purchase a soul back from the void, is 1,000 times worse than all the endings combined.  Nothing they add after that will matter to me, since I have watched a cruiser get one shotted by that beam.  I have watched shuttles get utterly destroyed, but I'm supposed to believe that even though my armor, with all those electronics in it that short out(which should kill you outright) is better than what a cruiser has.  Sorry, the contrivance here is all it took for me to not want to play the rest of the game.  Asking for anything after that is, in my opinion, further supporting a bigger contrivance than Synthesis.

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SarcasmRealist wrote...

This is a compelling plea.  If someone from Bioware has read this I'm sure it made them pause.  Many fans feel the same way.  I still have my copy of ME3 but I cannot play it nor do I want to trade it in. Upon reading your thoughts I hope something is being done.  There is still hope Bioware do not let all of your fans down.


aint that the hope for us all. The blue light shines brightly. "All will be well."

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Catalyst "You have choice. More than you think"
Catalyst "Now choose"
Catalyst "Death, Death or Death"
Shepard "Ill have a slice of Death please"

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Xellith wrote...

If you were born and raised in the US then shouldnt your primary language be Spanish? :P

It sure feels like it sometimes...Posted ImagePosted Image

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Xellith wrote...

Catalyst "You have choice. More than you think"
Catalyst "Now choose"
Catalyst "Death, Death or Death"
Shepard "Ill have a slice of Death please"


Catalyst "Would you like any particular flavors with your death?"

Shepard "Well I like the color red"

Catalyst "Green? okay!"

Shepard "No I said red"

Catalyst "You don't understand art!"

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N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I'm gonna start using it during every debate or arguement


Same lol. The vanguard of our destruction spoke absolute truth in those 10 seconds:lol:

In Leviathan:  Vanguard of our destruction, how's that working out for you big guy?Posted Image

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robertthebard wrote...

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I'm gonna start using it during every debate or arguement


Same lol. The vanguard of our destruction spoke absolute truth in those 10 seconds:lol:

In Leviathan:  Vanguard of our destruction, how's that working out for you big guy?Posted Image


In ME3: R, G, or B?  How'd that Leviathan go for you, human?

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3DandBeyond wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

I'm gonna start using it during every debate or arguement


Same lol. The vanguard of our destruction spoke absolute truth in those 10 seconds:lol:

In Leviathan:  Vanguard of our destruction, how's that working out for you big guy?Posted Image


In ME3: R, G, or B?  How'd that Leviathan go for you, human?

Cut me some slack, they win in the end, the vast majority of my playthroughs.  Good thing Liara planted all those time capsules.  I am, however, allowed a dig at an arrogant piece of machinery that's got pieces scattered all over the galaxy, apparently...Posted Image

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I'm proud to see that this thread has made it to 65. I hope this becomes the most active thread on the Bioware forums. I made a thread about the same thing. Keep up the love OP. We've got your back when you fall.

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robertthebard wrote...

3DandBeyond wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

In Leviathan:  Vanguard of our destruction, how's that working out for you big guy?Posted Image


In ME3: R, G, or B?  How'd that Leviathan go for you, human?

Cut me some slack, they win in the end, the vast majority of my playthroughs.  Good thing Liara planted all those time capsules.  I am, however, allowed a dig at an arrogant piece of machinery that's got pieces scattered all over the galaxy, apparently...Posted Image


Hey, no argument here.  I loved that little bitty reparte`, but I found it to be one of the funniest and yet oddly saddest things in Leviathan.  That and those poor miners being "awakened" from their indoctrination where they were living 10 years in the past and Liara saying they had a lot of catching up to do.

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Tooneyman wrote...

I'm proud to see that this thread has made it to 65. I hope this becomes the most active thread on the Bioware forums. I made a thread about the same thing. Keep up the love OP. We've got your back when you fall.


Hey cool and thanks a lot.

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Well the way that people were overreacting to Patrick Weekes tweets (seriously people. Overreat much?) and they responded - I figure its safe to say they are "aware" of this thread.

Modifié par Xellith, 02 septembre 2012 - 03:27 .


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3DandBeyond wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

I'm proud to see that this thread has made it to 65. I hope this becomes the most active thread on the Bioware forums. I made a thread about the same thing. Keep up the love OP. We've got your back when you fall.


Hey cool and thanks a lot.


I have your back 3D. Your passion to the game and ideas are very impressive.

Though I must ask, what is the purpose of this? What is it that we seek to tell Bioware? What is the desired end state?

Many of the topics you covered in the OP connect on many of my feelings. But they are just feelings - not 'deliverables'

If you could go to bioware with infinite munies and power and say change: [blank] what would it be?

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Tooneyman wrote...

I'm proud to see that this thread has made it to 65. I hope this becomes the most active thread on the Bioware forums. I made a thread about the same thing. Keep up the love OP. We've got your back when you fall.


It is not 65 pages full of people agreeing with the OP. Between the self bumping using replies to almost everyone that posts by the OP and the huge amount of pages which are pretty much people disagreeing, this thread hasn't actually got a lot of support overall.