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[robertthebard]

Warrior Craess wrote...

robertthebard wrote...

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

Lmao. You would think that one would want everyone else to also enjoy the game they love. That's so incredibly childish, that I can't believe it. It's not as if those few downers have to choose it. They can still have their bleak, wasteland ending. Nobody cares as long as they like it. It's like being a bully in school. You're just against that kid for the sake of it even though he didn't even do anything to you. Just cause he has a different preference than you. Those kinds of people need to grow up. If an overwhelming amount of people would choose that ending, those people should support us, cause we support them. We don't want their endings changed. We want one for us, too.

I'm going to come off cold and logical here, but hey, what can I say?  I'm against any ending where Shepard lives.  This is Shepard's last gasp for Mass Effect, and I find it fitting that Shepard dies.  All I have to do to see what happens when a protagonist in a BioWare game isn't central to a story, but alive is go over to the DA forums.  What I find incredibly childish is calling somebody else childish when they don't agree with you, for whatever reason.  This is the kind of behavior I expect from my granddaughters, the oldest being 12.

I am neither for, nor against 3D's proposals.  I have my ending, if they'd add my legend save, and I love it.  It accomplishes everything I need to accomplish, and I don't expect that anyone would agree with me, although it has had some recognition, even in this very thread, as a legitimate ending.  What I do oppose is somebody bashing somebody else for their beliefs, while believing they should be immune to being bashed for their own beliefs.  This does not constitute dialog, or discussion, and is why even though I have views in common with others in this thread, I do not necessarily support them.  If they made a rainbows and butterflies ending to this series, I would not buy it.  I have been under the impression since Mass Effect that beating the Reapers on their terms would be impossible.

I don't skip the endings because I feel like they're bad, even though I don't like how they handled the Crucible.  I skip the endings because to me, the DeM of surviving being nuked by Harbinger, which I see as on par with the Lazarus Project, where, if you have enough credits, you can purchase a soul back from the void, is 1,000 times worse than all the endings combined.  Nothing they add after that will matter to me, since I have watched a cruiser get one shotted by that beam.  I have watched shuttles get utterly destroyed, but I'm supposed to believe that even though my armor, with all those electronics in it that short out(which should kill you outright) is better than what a cruiser has.  Sorry, the contrivance here is all it took for me to not want to play the rest of the game.  Asking for anything after that is, in my opinion, further supporting a bigger contrivance than Synthesis.

And nothing about an optional DLC allowing shepard to live, and deal with the idiot star child requires you to change your endings. You got endings you can like, so why are you so up in arms about what many other people would like in order to get an ending they would like? 

The answer to your question is in the post you quoted.

[Tooneyman]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

Saddened, Why do we even bother? They will just ignore us until people give up on the concept.

Than we will never give up on it. Every time they release a trailer of something. BAM! Its us and the ending. Every time they make a tweet. BAM! Its us and the ending. Every time they even make a move or try to sell a new game. BAM! Its us and the ending. We aren't going anywhere until we get what we asked for. If it takes 25 years and their copyright is up on this franchise. BAM! It will be us who snag it first and try to fix and release the game with a new and awesome ending or at least adding to the one that makes sense and has all the stuff fixed on it. So Remember. BAM! Its us and the ending and we aren't going anywhere. You shouldn't either. It just gives you more entertainment right?

First off I'm not harassing anyone. I'm bring up a point and will do so. This is a debate and I'll be loud and proud about it.  Your harassing us by calling us whiners. Whether you work for Bioware or not. The point is still Bioware lied about ME 3. Do you want evidence. Here's a video. Watch it from 2:25 to 2:34.


There is a very valid point being made there. Bioware new what we wanted and they didn't deliver. Your going to ban me for being right in an argument. Besides I loved this franchise, but I feel that Bioware as a whole has lost their love for it. That or the love of their fans who say "Take my money at the sound of an N7 statement. I would be right there with them if they would only just add what we asked for.

And if they don't I'll keep asking them with BAM! US and the ending and with facts of course.

If harrassment is your intention then the result will be banning, suspensions, blocking and eventually you as an individual will be ignored plus there is no way you will ever buy the franchise. Not in 25 years and not in 50 years. Vast amount of this your so called 'us' have become smaller and smaller in number every passing week. Your us is a tiny fraction of the people what was in past and it is getting smaller and will continue to do so until there is but a handful of whiners as most get on with their lives, accept the direction Bioware wants to take their franchise or lose interest in whining like babies. A lot of which will at some point see something new whether Bioware game or DLC that they actually want.

[Redbelle]

Speaking as a fan of the ME series. And someone who has penned a few short stories, I'm happy for BW to take the franchise in whatever direction they wish. Provided they stay true to the universe they created and I as a fan have come to appreciate. Anything that BW come up with that smells like an anything vaguely like an EA money maker that focuses on rushed product's hitting the market in time for the next consumer sales boom.......... well it's how they make money I suppose. But if the cost is that BW cannot do justice to ME and take the franchise in new directions and new hights then the cost is to high,

C'mon neigh sayers. The anti enders are not against BW. They just want to see BW develop content that is worthy of the high standards that BW developed in the first place. All the way from Baluders Gate to ME3.

I'm not going to comment anymore on the ending. Only that it has become clear that it is transitory and BW has altered it with every SP DLC that have brought out, This may not be a new fashion for changing the ending (Fallout 3 I'm looking at you). But for such a blockbuster title to be playing with canon in such a way indicates two things. Someone at BW apparently thinks new episodic content no longer has to be relagated to the episode in question. And BW are not finished pushing the envelope in how DLC affects game content as a whole.

Who knows maybe next game will see DLC gives more content beyond what we have come to expect and what is 'in game canon' will have to become a more flexible concept.

Modifié par Redbelle, 02 septembre 2012 - 06:06 .

[N7_Paragon2077]

@robertthebard

Nowhere at all was I being childish or bashing other people for the way they think. All I've been doing is agreeing, and defending my friend from insult. You won't find any post here where I disagree with someone and act like a total jerk. I'm all for everyone believing their own thing, that's cool. What we want and what you want don't have to come into conflict with each other, but it seems like the people that come in this thread against it really have no other reason than "they wouldn't like it"... well then seriously, don't pick it. Also, not to sound rude, but if you don't care either way, then why are you here arguing?

[Tooneyman]

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

@robertthebard

Nowhere at all was I being childish or bashing other people for the way they think. All I've been doing is agreeing, and defending my friend from insult. You won't find any post here where I disagree with someone and act like a total jerk. I'm all for everyone believing their own thing, that's cool. What we want and what you want don't have to come into conflict with each other, but it seems like the people that come in this thread against it really have no other reason than "they wouldn't like it"... well then seriously, don't pick it. Also, not to sound rude, but if you don't care either way, then why are you here arguing?

^this!

[Warrior Craess]

I actually had less problems with him surviving the run after the EC.. Shepard no longer takes a laser directly to the face. And there is plenty of video evidence that being close to the lasers doesn't inflict much collateral damage.

However: What Dan tha man said was that Synthesis wasn't possible based on what the star child says., I simply pointed out that it was possible, had been tried before and failed (not because the technology failed but because it was forced). The SC immediately tells Shepard he can indeed force this choice on all the organics and synthetics of the galaxy.

Dantheman has a tendency to require his own personal head canon be everyone else's. So I like to point out the factual fallacies he has.

[robertthebard]

Tooneyman wrote...

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

@robertthebard

Nowhere at all was I being childish or bashing other people for the way they think. All I've been doing is agreeing, and defending my friend from insult. You won't find any post here where I disagree with someone and act like a total jerk. I'm all for everyone believing their own thing, that's cool. What we want and what you want don't have to come into conflict with each other, but it seems like the people that come in this thread against it really have no other reason than "they wouldn't like it"... well then seriously, don't pick it. Also, not to sound rude, but if you don't care either way, then why are you here arguing?

^this!

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

Lmao. You would think that one would want everyone else to also enjoy the game they love. That's so incredibly childish, that I can't believe it. It's not as if those few downers have to choose it. They can still have their bleak, wasteland ending. Nobody cares as long as they like it. It's like being a bully in school. You're just against that kid for the sake of it even though he didn't even do anything to you. Just cause he has a different preference than you. Those kinds of people need to grow up. If an overwhelming amount of people would choose that ending, those people should support us, cause we support them. We don't want their endings changed. We want one for us, too.

Yep, my bad, the forum is misrepresenting you.  You flew up in arms in a hurry to call somebody else childish in order to "protect your friend" and then talk about bullies?  Irony 101?

[Tooneyman]

@robertthebard I liked his statement. I didn't see your whole conversation. All I'm going to say is this.

This video.
2:25 to 2:38. BAM! US and the ending. haha.

Hugs!

[robertthebard]

Tooneyman wrote...

@robertthebard I liked his statement. I didn't see your whole conversation. All I'm going to say is this.

This video.
2:25 to 2:38. BAM! US and the ending. haha.

Hugs!

Gotta love this arguement:  I didn't see your conversation, but felt the need to insert myself anyway.  Peace.

[N7_Paragon2077]

@robertthebard

You seem to be the one misunderstanding here. I called them childish for disagreeing just to disagree. That is childish. I felt that was the right way to put it. I then followed up with saying the people who like their wasteland, everyone is dead ending don't affect the people that don't want it. And yes, it is like bullying someone. I didn't bully anyone, I just stated that we support their ideas. I think that maybe you should read my posts in their context before you pick them apart like that.

Modifié par N7_Paragon2077, 02 septembre 2012 - 06:27 .

[robertthebard]

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

@robertthebard

You seem to be the one misunderstanding here. I called them childish for disagreeing just to disagree. That is childish. I felt that was the right way to put it. I then followed up with saying the people who like their wasteland, everyone is dead ending don't affect the people that don't want it. And yes, it is like bullying someone. I didn't bully anyone, I just stated that we support their ideas. I think that maybe you should read my posts in their context before you pick them apart like that.

I'm going to be legally stoned for at least another day, but I did read your post in it's entirety.  I don't see it as being childish for somebody to hold one belief or another, nor do I see it as necessarily childish for them to express that belief.  Now, the way some people express those beliefs could use some, um, politenessing up, yes, I think I'm making up a word, which is what drew the response from me in the first place.  BSN is a hostile place to like ME 3, which is sad, since it's ME 3's home.  I like everything up to Harbinger in ME 3.  After that is off the table, for me, and I have expressed that a few times, in this thread alone.  I have expressed to 3D publicly that I don't support the idea, but I don't oppose it, I just want my legend save.  I didn't have to get childish, or overly arguementative to do so, and we had a decent dialog about it.  I don't see the need for it.

[robertthebard]

vivaladricas wrote...

DO you guys honestly think the people that matter for adding things read anything here though? To the lengths necessary to take it beyond just reading it and actually using it? Gamble may read something or Chris but I wonder it would even get to the appropriate channels.

I agree with the OP 100% here, just wondering and asking for your honest opinion.

I honestly believe, being BioWare, that if it holds merit to somebody reading it, they would at least discuss it.  Not publicly, and I can't say as I blame them, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least bit.

[N7_Paragon2077]

robertthebard wrote...

N7_Paragon2077 wrote...

@robertthebard

You seem to be the one misunderstanding here. I called them childish for disagreeing just to disagree. That is childish. I felt that was the right way to put it. I then followed up with saying the people who like their wasteland, everyone is dead ending don't affect the people that don't want it. And yes, it is like bullying someone. I didn't bully anyone, I just stated that we support their ideas. I think that maybe you should read my posts in their context before you pick them apart like that.

I'm going to be legally stoned for at least another day, but I did read your post in it's entirety.  I don't see it as being childish for somebody to hold one belief or another, nor do I see it as necessarily childish for them to express that belief.  Now, the way some people express those beliefs could use some, um, politenessing up, yes, I think I'm making up a word, which is what drew the response from me in the first place.  BSN is a hostile place to like ME 3, which is sad, since it's ME 3's home.  I like everything up to Harbinger in ME 3.  After that is off the table, for me, and I have expressed that a few times, in this thread alone.  I have expressed to 3D publicly that I don't support the idea, but I don't oppose it, I just want my legend save.  I didn't have to get childish, or overly arguementative to do so, and we had a decent dialog about it.  I don't see the need for it.

Wait, then whats the problem here? Maybe I'm not being clear, I dunno, but I was trying to say that I think that people who disagree without reason just to oppose 3D are childish. I never ever said that people who express a different opinion are childish. Maybe you don't see the need for anything to be added, but some other people would love it. That's all. Not trying to fight. This thread was really made for BioWare, not for arguments anyways.

[Wesker1984]

Whatever what the fans says i'm still open for more Mass Effect 3 contents and endings but i'm also satisfied with what we now. With extended cuts and the Leviathan DLC out i find my Mass Effect 3 expereince near perfection, thank you Bioware for all what you done!

[Dragoonlordz]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Stop with the name calling.  And consider this: do you want Bioware to survive and make quality games of the ME type?  Do you want them to have the money and resources to do so?  Do you want all videogames to end up being the same?  CoD games have SP that is like a big tutorial to get you ready for MP.  Is that what you want?  I don't want every game to be like that and it's foolish for BW to go that way.

The more people that buy their products, the more likely this is to happen.  The more often people listen to the real haters-the haters of people, who say "go away" and "shut up, whiner", the fewer customers a game dev has.  Many people lurk in forums, even other game devs do.  There are devs out there that may even see the suggestions on this forum and think that sounds like a good idea, never pull a Bioware or never pull an ME3.  These devs are envious of the diversity of the fanbase that ME has.

It's myopic to think that the FPS gamer (mostly teenage boys) will carry game development forward.  And the largest segment of game buyers (NA) needs to be augmented by the global community.  The demographics of gaming is shifting-as recognized by Nintendo and the Wii, MS and Kinect.  Moms want to play, too.  And Nintendo is recognizing that just as in America, females decided they liked football as much as the men in the family, females like a variety of games and not just those with flowers and Barbies.  Other devs see that the money in the family comes from those that are working (in the US, more women than men retained their jobs during the recession).  And those with the better jobs have more disposable entertainment cash.  More women than men buy books and magazines and the publishing industry recognizes that.

Now, I'm not saying that ME is a "woman's" game.  I'm saying that turning it into a teenage boy's game is a mistake.  And the demographics that liked ME, liked it because the adventures and the outcomes were heroic.  ME3's endings are not.  Most do not role play games in order to die.  Most movies are also role playing concepts and people do not go to them to have the hero always die-the biggest money makers have heroes that live.  That means that's what people want.  And businesses must consider this or go out of business. 

So, by all means get antagonistic and tell people to go away and shut up.  Then live with the consequences.  I've seen it happen before.  And you are so right, there will be other games.  That's exactly the point.  ME needs to keep all the fans it can in order to remain a profitable franchise and it should remain unique within a field of boring cookie cutter sameness.  Bioware should lead, not follow.

I have to question where you get this idea they will not survive or make quality games if do not give you what you want which is has been narrowed down to conventional victory or way to invalidate the catalyst plus you want blue babies idiology. There will always be people who want to buy their games. In your lastest response you bash FPS gamers, you label them teenage boys and you claim you do not imply that ME is a womens game at the same time as saying that catering to what you percieve as a teenage boy gamer should not happen. Which implies you do think it a womans game.

You also do not know why 'most' people play any games let alone roleplaying games, you actually merely only know factually what you play them for and the rest of the people have their own reasons and can speak for themselves in what they play them for since only they know. In fact I also question why you even brought up gender in regard to what I said mentioned nothing about gender. I question your reason for trying to go down that path with your assumptions and implications.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 septembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[Tooneyman]

Hey OP. You know what's funny about this whole conversation and I've truly released this from the start.

Most the people who are fighting against you kind of want you to succeed. They say they don't want to have a change or even have an extra ending added, but in the end. They would be one of the first to download it or buy it the minute Bioware made the addition DLC to the game.

They secretly kind of hope you succeed even though they bash us. They fight and bicker with us because they feel that we are wrong for wanting more to the game. I think their wrong for not wanting it. If they really loved this franchise they would want more to ME. They would want that extra time with Miranda, Jack, Grunt, Samara, Wrex and all the LI and other characters.

They would say no, but in there hearts they truly want us to win and damnit for all you guys out there fighting against us. Don't worry ya'll. We'll keep fighting and trying to get Bioware to add more to the ending. Even if Chris Priestly says no more. Because I think he kind of wants to add some more himself. XD

[Dragoonlordz]

Tooneyman wrote...

Hey OP. You know what's funny about this whole conversation and I've truly released this from the start.

Most the people who are fighting against you kind of want you to succeed. They say they don't want to have a change or even have an extra ending added, but in the end. They would be one of the first to download it or buy it the minute Bioware made the addition DLC to the game.

They secretly kind of hope you succeed even though they bash us. They fight and bicker with us because they feel that we are wrong for wanting more to the game. I think their wrong for not wanting it. If they really loved this franchise they would want more to ME. They would want that extra time with Miranda, Jack, Grunt, Samara, Wrex and all the LI and other characters.

They would say no, but in there hearts they truly want us to win and damnit for all you guys out there fighting against us. Don't worry ya'll. We'll keep fighting and trying to get Bioware to add more to the ending. Even if Chris Priestly says no more. Because I think he kind of wants to add some more himself. XD

You sure do like wild assumptions. You do not know what people would do with such DLC, if they say they do not want it you have no way of knowing if they would buy it. You have no idea whether people are 'secretly wanting you to suceed' or not. Do not confuse us wanting different things to mean if they produce something you want, we would buy it anymore than if produce something we want, you would buy it. If they produce conventional victory DLC, I will not buy it just like if they produce blue babies DLC I will not buy that. Those things do not interest me much like leviathan might not interest you so you might not buy it, I would be annoyed that they spend time and money catering to those who hate their game yet again instead of those who like their game.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 septembre 2012 - 07:41 .

[Tooneyman]

@Dragoonlordz Here is a question would you be curious at all to see what the victory DLC would hold? I bet you five bucks it would sell like hot cakes if Bioware made it. You know why I know because of the numbers of the people dissatisfied with the ending the this statement from Patrick Weeke's Twitter account about how Leviathan isn't doing to well. https://twitter.com/...653412281233408

People want a victory. Especially after feeling like they have worked so hard after 3 games for one.

Would you buy it. Maybe not, but some part of me thinks you would. You say what you say now, but if they released it something tells me you would without hesitation.

[Dragoonlordz]

Tooneyman wrote...

@Dragoonlordz Here is a question would you be curious at all to see what the victory DLC would hold? I bet you five bucks it would sell like hot cakes if Bioware made it. You know why I know because of the numbers of the people dissatisfied with the ending the this statement from Patrick Weeke's Twitter account about how Leviathan isn't doing to well. https://twitter.com/...653412281233408

People want a victory. Especially after feeling like they have worked so hard after 3 games for one.

Would you buy it. Maybe not, but some part of me thinks you would. You say what you say now, but if they released it something tells me you would without hesitation.

Firstly your misrepresenting what his tweet was about of which he later cleared up and has nothing to do with this thread or what the few dozen people in it have said wanted parts or all of what OP stated.

Secondly, no I am not curious what conventional victory would be like, it is a horrible idea that not only means Bioware's time and money was thrown out the window on both EC and original endings but also it goes against the very theme of the game which is no conventional victory. You may class the catalyst as a slap in the face well conventional victory would be such to me. I am happy with the ending already present and I would prefer they spend their time and money now catering to those who like the game instead of always trying to please the remaining unhappy ones which is vastly smaller in number since EC.

What you think I would do is worth nothing. I can say I think you will buy ME4 if it came out tomorrow does not mean you would. I could say I think you enjoy pulling your pants down and running around a park or open space but again does not mean you do. So leave the 'what you think others would do' remaining in your head. Say what you would do but do not presume what others will do.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 septembre 2012 - 07:50 .

[3DandBeyond]

vivaladricas wrote...

DO you guys honestly think the people that matter for adding things read anything here though? To the lengths necessary to take it beyond just reading it and actually using it? Gamble may read something or Chris but I wonder it would even get to the appropriate channels.

I agree with the OP 100% here, just wondering and asking for your honest opinion.

I disregard the notion that something is impossible if it is attempted.  The unattempted is always impossilble however.

Others have also tried to draw it to BW's attention, FWIW.

[AresKeith]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Hey OP. You know what's funny about this whole conversation and I've truly released this from the start.

Most the people who are fighting against you kind of want you to succeed. They say they don't want to have a change or even have an extra ending added, but in the end. They would be one of the first to download it or buy it the minute Bioware made the addition DLC to the game.

They secretly kind of hope you succeed even though they bash us. They fight and bicker with us because they feel that we are wrong for wanting more to the game. I think their wrong for not wanting it. If they really loved this franchise they would want more to ME. They would want that extra time with Miranda, Jack, Grunt, Samara, Wrex and all the LI and other characters.

They would say no, but in there hearts they truly want us to win and damnit for all you guys out there fighting against us. Don't worry ya'll. We'll keep fighting and trying to get Bioware to add more to the ending. Even if Chris Priestly says no more. Because I think he kind of wants to add some more himself. XD

You sure do like wild assumptions. You do not know what people would do with such DLC, if they say they do not want it you have no way of knowing if they would buy it. You have no idea whether people are 'secretly wanting you to suceed' or not. Do not confuse us wanting different things to mean if they produce something you want, we would buy it anymore than if produce something we want, you would buy it. If they produce conventional victory DLC, I will not buy it just like if they produce blue babies DLC I will not buy that. Those things do not interest me much like leviathan might not interest you so you might not buy it, I would be annoyed that they spend time and money catering to those who hate their game yet again instead of those who like their game.

so let me get this straight from the line I bolded, you would be annoyed if they made a pre-ending DLC that also adds on the current endings even though it would be completely optional for you to choice that said ending

[Dragoonlordz]

AresKeith wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Tooneyman wrote...

Hey OP. You know what's funny about this whole conversation and I've truly released this from the start.

Most the people who are fighting against you kind of want you to succeed. They say they don't want to have a change or even have an extra ending added, but in the end. They would be one of the first to download it or buy it the minute Bioware made the addition DLC to the game.

They secretly kind of hope you succeed even though they bash us. They fight and bicker with us because they feel that we are wrong for wanting more to the game. I think their wrong for not wanting it. If they really loved this franchise they would want more to ME. They would want that extra time with Miranda, Jack, Grunt, Samara, Wrex and all the LI and other characters.

They would say no, but in there hearts they truly want us to win and damnit for all you guys out there fighting against us. Don't worry ya'll. We'll keep fighting and trying to get Bioware to add more to the ending. Even if Chris Priestly says no more. Because I think he kind of wants to add some more himself. XD

You sure do like wild assumptions. You do not know what people would do with such DLC, if they say they do not want it you have no way of knowing if they would buy it. You have no idea whether people are 'secretly wanting you to suceed' or not. Do not confuse us wanting different things to mean if they produce something you want, we would buy it anymore than if produce something we want, you would buy it. If they produce conventional victory DLC, I will not buy it just like if they produce blue babies DLC I will not buy that. Those things do not interest me much like leviathan might not interest you so you might not buy it, I would be annoyed that they spend time and money catering to those who hate their game yet again instead of those who like their game.

so let me get this straight from the line I bolded, you would be annoyed if they made a pre-ending DLC that also adds on the current endings even though it would be completely optional for you to choice that said ending

The things you want specifically conventional victory do annoy me, you attempts to invalidate the balance of the current choices. Your attempt to invalidate the catalyst and all the endings which is insulting because it in it's most basic form is telling Bioware to take all the money and time involved in creating the original endings and the EC and throw it away like mean's nothing including urinating all over their creative rights to craft the games they want even though you already have the right to not buy it if do not like it aswell as slapping the face of Chris and others in forcing them to make everything they have said pointless.

You cannot fall back on do what we want and others do not have to buy it. How about they do what I want and you do not have to buy it or do what they want and anyone can decide not to buy it. It's a logical loop that has no baring because still revolves around creating something you want or creating something I want or what Bioware wants. It is no different than saying lets all have Bioware create what I want, what you want and what they want all in one giant DLC trololo despite being possible contradictory content compared to what already produced. Or creating what I want and what Bioware wants and you don't have to buy it. Or creating what you want and Bioware want and I do not have to buy it. It is actually a fairly pointless argument to rely on.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 02 septembre 2012 - 08:13 .

[3DandBeyond]

See, the thing is I'm working from the standpoint that we have what we have and that they do not seem opposed to adding minor changes to things. This does open up possibilities.

However, if I had my real wish come true it would be that the ending had always only involved trying to destroy the reapers and our ability to do that. Endings would range from full on defeat to full on victory, with authentic consequences.

The history of the reapers could have been part of an epilog and it even might have been interesting to have taken Leviathan from there, as well as delving into the beings of light, to continue the story in DLC or in a new game with a new "hero". It might have been interesting if the new hero had been a scientist who discovered the traces of the beings of light and Leviathan-the reluctant hero taken to the next level. Kind of a cross between Liara and Mordin, character-wise. This hero might discover the origins and purpose of the reapers and then see there's an even greater enemy in the shadows. And this could have been a very flawed "hero" kind of like Han Solo in that s/he doesn't really want to be thrust into all this.

And of course it would have had to have evolved out of one canon ending-there's no way to do any sequel without setting canon at some point. It also would be very limiting to close off the opportunity to do a sequel-it would be suicide for any dev to do that. They might never do a sequel, but you have to always leave the door open for the possibility.

[Xellith]

While I do not believe that a conventional victory in the "pound for pound" argument.  I am in favour of assets you aquire having impacts on the final battle other than just a codex entry.  Something significant needs to happen.

Playing the game over and over again while acquiring new assets should give you new outcomes (within reason).