A0170 wrote...
IsaacShep wrote...
'Cause it's not from LeviA0170 wrote...
"BioP_CitHot"? That doesn't like anything from Levi. Wonder what it could be?Wonder what it means too. 'Hot' hmmm... HOT ROMANCE CITADEL HUB!
Lol I figured it wasn't from Levi.
As for an upcoming "HOT ROMANCE CITADEL HUB" dlc? Ahhhh yeah...
Yeah, it was clearly written for the original ending.IsaacShep wrote...
Well, Leviathan already did most of it, to the point that some of the questions Shep asks the Catalyst now are simply redundant since he knows the answers already
The mystery of Keeper Twenty...IsaacShep wrote...
I would love if it focused on Keepers, visiting those mysterious Keeper tunnels!El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...
Well, my at least this doesn't discharge my Keeper theory
I doubt that shep will be running on the Citadel shooting mercs, so I'm sure that he will chase another mistery.
And we have the Keepers in that group, but it also can be something entirely new.
Hudathan wrote...
If the reactions to Leviathan is any indication, people **** and moan for clarification calling everything a plot hole unless it's made blatantly obvious by the writers but then turn around and label such clarification as 'unnecessary' when Bioware actually takes the effort to put it in the game. Because you know, they could've just figured that stuff out on their own so why is Bioware wasting their time with it? Internet logic.TMA LIVE wrote...
Citadel huh. They better have something that'll explain why the Catalyst didn't do anything during ME1.
Because, why the hell haven't they answered this yet? This isn't an impossible thing to answer. In EC, right after the Catalyst tells Shepard "No... the Citadel is part of me". All Shepard has to say back is "You mean... you've been here this entire time?" And Catalyst says "Yes, but I've been in dormant till now, in order to remain hidden". And that's it. Plothole filled.
Hudathan wrote...
If the reactions to Leviathan is any indication, people **** and moan for clarification calling everything a plot hole unless it's made blatantly obvious by the writers but then turn around and label such clarification as 'unnecessary' when Bioware actually takes the effort to put it in the game. Because you know, they could've just figured that stuff out on their own so why is Bioware wasting their time with it? Internet logic.TMA LIVE wrote...
Citadel huh. They better have something that'll explain why the Catalyst didn't do anything during ME1.
Because, why the hell haven't they answered this yet? This isn't an impossible thing to answer. In EC, right after the Catalyst tells Shepard "No... the Citadel is part of me". All Shepard has to say back is "You mean... you've been here this entire time?" And Catalyst says "Yes, but I've been in dormant till now, in order to remain hidden". And that's it. Plothole filled.
IsaacShep wrote...
Well, Leviathan already did most of it, to the point that some of the questions Shep asks the Catalyst now are simply redundant since he knows the answers alreadyTMA LIVE wrote...
I'm just worried that if it's another Catalyst thing, it's just going to keep ruining a lot of the point of the ending. The Catalyst appears at the end as a surprise. It's suppose to be a surprise and a discovery. But if they make a DLC where characters are like "Clearly there's an AI somewhere on the Citadel", it's like spelling out your plot twist before it happens in a very bad way. "Hmmm, Intelligence... Hmm... AI on Citadel... wonder why no one at C-Sec is considering this seriously until it's too late?"
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 31 août 2012 - 01:28 .
Yeah, they should've modified the Catalyst dialogue more if you played Levi. Wouldn't even be hard.TMA LIVE wrote...
Because after I played that, and rewatched EC, I just felt like info repeat. That I was just getting the same info, but from the Catalyst's perspective.
I don't really agree with this, but it's subjective. Personally, I don't feel forced to agree with the Catalyst that there's need for any solution. I just use the Crucible since I wanted to do it from the start anyway, I was working the entire game to use it. And I like that Leviathans are only a tad less of d*cks than Reapers. It makes much more sense why the Reapers are how they are (massive ego and all)TMA LIVE wrote...
The other issue I had is that I don't like meeting the creators of the Catalyst face to face, and learning that the reason why everything happened was because the catalyst was made by lazy dicks, with evil objectives. Because it makes everything comes down to just a screw up, then because there was a real issue going on in the galaxy. And such a thing doesn't really help being forced to pick options to solve these problems, if the issue never really existed. I mean, if you're going to force me to make a choice that solves a problem, you try to convince me that the problem needs to be solved. Not make me believe I shouldn't make these choices because the problem didn't have much weight since the beginning, even though I'm forced to.
Modifié par IsaacShep, 31 août 2012 - 01:35 .
IsaacShep wrote...
I don't really agree with this, but it's subjective. Personally, I don't feel forced to agree with the Catalyst that there's need for any solution. I just use the Crucible since I wanted to do it from the start anyway, I was working the entire game to use it. And I like that Leviathans are only a tad less of d*cks than Reapers. It makes much more sense why the Reapers are how they are (massive ego and all)
IsaacShep wrote...
Yeah, they should've modified the Catalyst dialogue more if you played Levi. Wouldn't even be hard.TMA LIVE wrote...
Because after I played that, and rewatched EC, I just felt like info repeat. That I was just getting the same info, but from the Catalyst's perspective.I don't really agree with this, but it's subjective. Personally, I don't feel forced to agree with the Catalyst that there's need for any solution. I just use the Crucible since I wanted to do it from the start anyway, I was working the entire game to use it. And I like that Leviathans are only a tad less of d*cks than Reapers. It makes much more sense why the Reapers are how they are (massive ego and all)TMA LIVE wrote...
The other issue I had is that I don't like meeting the creators of the Catalyst face to face, and learning that the reason why everything happened was because the catalyst was made by lazy dicks, with evil objectives. Because it makes everything comes down to just a screw up, then because there was a real issue going on in the galaxy. And such a thing doesn't really help being forced to pick options to solve these problems, if the issue never really existed. I mean, if you're going to force me to make a choice that solves a problem, you try to convince me that the problem needs to be solved. Not make me believe I shouldn't make these choices because the problem didn't have much weight since the beginning, even though I'm forced to.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 31 août 2012 - 01:44 .
Why not? Controlling them is a way to stop them as well. And killing Geth/EDI is a side-effect, regardless if Catalyst existed or not. It's not Catalyst fault the Crucible is how it is.TMA LIVE wrote...
Yeah, but you built the thing to stop the Reapers. Not Control them
Yeah, Synthesis is pretty much doing what Catalyst wants, but that's just one of 3 choices, you don't have to pick it.TMA LIVE wrote...
, or kill the Geth/Edi, or change all life. I mean, if you're going to pick synthesis, shouldn you believe it should be done for the reasons the Catalyst is giving, instead of possibly thinking maybe the Leviathan's came up with this, because they want to turn us into better tool they could use to control? Or that you're forcing an unneeded change that's based off flawed logic? Stuff like that.
I can still believe humanity/organics can and possibly will one day make machines that could wipe us out. But I should be given more faith that something like Synthesis should solve that. Or is the right method to solve that. And isn't just another evil method created by evil forces, based on lazy planning.
Modifié par IsaacShep, 31 août 2012 - 01:47 .
IsaacShep wrote...
Yeah, Synthesis is pretty much doing what Catalyst wants, but that's just one of 3 choices, you don't have to pick it.
Anyway, I don't wanna turn this thread into another "ending" debate. This is about upcoming DLCs
Modifié par Hudathan, 31 août 2012 - 01:52 .
Hudathan wrote...
I took Destroy precisely because I felt that the Catalyst is serving a flawed purpose and should no longer exist. I wanted to wipe the slate clean and return the galaxy to a more natural state before hubris turned it into a slaughterhouse.
Losing the Geth and EDI was a very unfortunate consequence of releasing enough energy to destroy the Reapers, but their contributions will be honoured and the galaxy will never look at synthetic life the same way again. In fact there is no reason why the Geth can't somehow be recovered and even rebuilt the same way as any technology.
How touching would it be if after 300 years of research into destroying the Geth, the Quarians took that knowledge in an attempt to bring them back? That's what I think of my ending anyway.
Yes including new activities such as fishing, farming and beekeeping. It also makes Shepard the Reaperkiin with access to more than 30 Reaper shouts and adds a Vampire class to the game.Rip504 wrote...
Maybe we will receive DLC that allows us to build a house on the Citadel. How exciting. Maybe we can adopt a kid to help Shepard get through his/her depression.
skate4tacos96 wrote...
Wait! I just remembered something! When you go to the refugee camps on the Citadel, as soon as you walk out of the elevator there's a Turian C-Sec member standing behind a desk in an area that's inaccessible. But, there are two doors behind him. One leads out of the room he is in and into a hallway, and the other leads to a room from that hallway. I recently found out that these doors are somehow able to open when I walked really close to one of them there was an interact marker that popped up on the door. So maybe this new DLC makes that area accessible.
Modifié par COGNiTiON 1, 31 août 2012 - 02:16 .
Just noticed that while doing Kasumi's little side mission! The one door closest to you is able to be opened!COGNiTiON 1 wrote...
skate4tacos96 wrote...
Wait! I just remembered something! When you go to the refugee camps on the Citadel, as soon as you walk out of the elevator there's a Turian C-Sec member standing behind a desk in an area that's inaccessible. But, there are two doors behind him. One leads out of the room he is in and into a hallway, and the other leads to a room from that hallway. I recently found out that these doors are somehow able to open when I walked really close to one of them there was an interact marker that popped up on the door. So maybe this new DLC makes that area accessible.
I noticed this too. I don't recall it happening before I installed Leviathan. To clarify, you are talking about the door to the left (When you exit the elevator)?
Modifié par Savage Baird, 31 août 2012 - 02:18 .
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Modifié par Lucas1987Dion, 31 août 2012 - 03:07 .
Lucas1987Dion wrote...
^^ Why U so pesimistic? :happy:
Extended Cut was released in June, and Leviathan in August...
So who knows...
P.S. I want a new squadmate ;-/ (I know, not an option
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