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[cyborg2501]

It's only flaw is that it set our expectations impossibly high.

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

the irony here is that you didn't undetstand the picture

I do understand the whats the meaning of the picture while your comment tells us that logic isn't your friend.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Blueprotoss wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

If there is truely a way to completely destroy the Reapers then you must know what happens in the next ME sequel.

Elephant Theory -- the expanded version that eliminates the Leviathans as well.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Don't worry Ares, he doesn't know any better. Living off of Bioware's paychecks, he is incapable of understanding that ME3 is anything other than "art" and people who are still disappointed with the game are being obtuse or irrationale.

Atleast that's what Upton Sinclair would think.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:10 .

[Blueprotoss]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Elephant Theory -- the expanded version that eliminates the Leviathans as well.

Yet this is an exmaple of a straw-mann because we don't know if the Levianthans are the oldest race and the Levianthans weren't wiped out.

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Don't worry Ares, he doesn't know any better. Living off of Bioware's paychecks, he is incapable of understanding that ME3 is anything other than "art" and people who are still disappointed with the game are being obtuse or irrationale.

Atleast that's what Upton Sinclair would think.

How is that when the "facts" that you're using are just opinions since anything can be labeled as art and everyone has their own opinion.  Btw if I was obtuse and/or irrational then I would be acting like you or Ares.  Haters gonna hate.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:15 .

[AresKeith]

Blueprotoss wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Elephant Theory -- the expanded version that eliminates the Leviathans as well.

Yet this is an exmaple of a straw-mann because we don't know if the Levianthans are the oldest race and the Levianthans weren't wiped out.

wow just... wow.  Stop talking

[Blueprotoss]

AresKeith wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Elephant Theory -- the expanded version that eliminates the Leviathans as well.

Yet this is an exmaple of a straw-mann because we don't know if the Levianthans are the oldest race and the Levianthans weren't wiped out.

wow just... wow.  Stop talking

Why should I since I'm still beating you with logic.

[BiO]

EA.

[Anti-killer]

Blueprotoss wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Elephant Theory -- the expanded version that eliminates the Leviathans as well.

Yet this is an exmaple of a straw-mann because we don't know if the Levianthans are the oldest race and the Levianthans weren't wiped out.

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Don't worry Ares, he doesn't know any better. Living off of Bioware's paychecks, he is incapable of understanding that ME3 is anything other than "art" and people who are still disappointed with the game are being obtuse or irrationale.

Atleast that's what Upton Sinclair would think.

How is that when the "facts" that you're using are just opinions since anything can be labeled as art and everyone has their own opinion.  Btw if I was obtuse and/or irrational then I would be acting like you or Ares.  Haters gonna hate.

...wow

[C9316]

The fact that it was and is still half @ssed.

[ioannisdenton]

Fixers0 wrote...

Priority: Earth.

But seriously ME3 had some of the strongest moments in the whole trilogy.

[Conniving_Eagle]

Blueprotoss wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Elephant Theory -- the expanded version that eliminates the Leviathans as well.

Yet this is an exmaple of a straw-mann because we don't know if the Levianthans are the oldest race and the Levianthans weren't wiped out.

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Don't worry Ares, he doesn't know any better. Living off of Bioware's paychecks, he is incapable of understanding that ME3 is anything other than "art" and people who are still disappointed with the game are being obtuse or irrationale.

Atleast that's what Upton Sinclair would think.

How is that when the "facts" that you're using are just opinions since anything can be labeled as art and everyone has their own opinion.  Btw if I was obtuse and/or irrational then I would be acting like you or Ares.  Haters gonna hate.

Well let's see...

I know, you just proved my point.

-You don't create any threads.
-"Art" is one of your most frequently used words.
-You don't show any sense of humor, all jives at the game are taken seriously by you.
-You only seem to pop around when ME3 is being critcized.

The purpose of your account has been made pretty clear.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 06 septembre 2012 - 09:22 .

[Boomerrage]

I think I'll go with the autodialogue. I think having autodialogue's to an extend is a good idea, but it needs to capture your character better.

My renegade Shepard from ME1 and 2 didn't sound very renegade in ME3.
He used to talk down to everyone. And it was so unbelievably satisfying to tell some store cleric how unfair it was the she was descriminating against the poor.

In ME1 and 2, renegade Shepard was my hero. He could do anything:

Headbutting krogans?
- You gotta stay in shape somehow!


Pushing unarmed mercs out of a window?
- Sure, why not?


Overworked Blue Suns mercs?
- You're working too hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzI1C7-l-Rc

I wanted more of that in ME3. I think the autodialogue needs to change whether your Shepard's renegade/paragon, or perhabs something inbetween.

[dreamgazer]

EMS, and how it factors into war assets, multiplayer, and the anticipation that's deflated when you don't see key assets in action during Priority: Earth.

Also, the whole Rachni situation.

[Wattamelun]

I'd say autodialogue or the lack of film grain. Or the absence of ME2 characters (to make a game all about establishing characters have those characters barely appear in the sequel is just silly).

[GreenDragon37]

Thaa_solon wrote...

the plot

This and the destruction of the dialogue wheel through auto-dialogue. Plus the fact that our choices don't really matter. The terrible journal system. The over-abundance of fetch-quests. Oh, and the dream sequences; damn that kid. Also the pre-release developer lies, the lack-luster Priority Earh, and Cerberus becoming the Galactic Empire instead of a shadow organization.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:48 .

[Snoopy1955]

The fact that not leaving the Rachnai queen to die was apparently a Renegade decision. Who would have figured that letting a race go extinct was a bad guy choice.

[Snoopy1955]

GreenDragon37 wrote...

Thaa_solon wrote...

the plot

This and the destruction of the dialogue wheel through auto-dialogue. Plus the fact that our choices don't really matter. The terrible journal system. The over-abundance of fetch-quests. 

Not just any fetch quests. Fetch quests, that like a lot of the choices don't really actually matter.

[Village_Idiot]

A case of missed opportunity. (Subjectivity ahoy)

Pre-EC, the ending was unfulfilling. Post-EC, the ending is at least nowhere near as ambiguous, and its ramifications are far less dire for the ME galaxy than they originally seemed.

Unfortunately, this doesn't remedy a major character and plot device being crowbarred in, a secondary theme suddenly becoming the main one, and the final step in the main antagonists' villain decay: an unceremonious demotion to mere pawns. Not to mention this is the third time in the series there has been a "man behind the man".

I got closure from the EC ending. Thematically though, I still think it's sub-par. As I said, missed opportunity; the Mass Effect trilogy deserved a spectacular send-off, not a head-scratcher that sent the fanbase into a frothing rage.

Modifié par Shadrach 88, 06 septembre 2012 - 11:27 .

[The Spamming Troll]

it wasnt a game made for me.

[D24O]

No fornax.

[en2ym3]

The writing.  But, on a more specific aspect, the auto-dialogue.

The simplified story handling more overused ideas (themes, details about the universe, etc.) over the ones the series has made in past a vital, chronic flaw that plagues the entire game, and I am seriously concerned with how Bioware games are going to be if this is how they intend to write them in future.

The auto-dialogue is a gameplay aspect as well as a writing one, and it's the one that has both cut us off from a lot of choice in the RPG ME3 is supposed to be (both small and big ones), and what minimized how much we could really interact with other people and the world - even our squadmates.  The people you're supposed to get to know and bond with, and give a crap about.  There are other issues that added to these problems as well (e.g. the player's reaction to Joker is "chosen" by them but may as well not have been; sometimes you never talk to anyone at all, and a conversation's system doesn't matter if there's no conversation at all) but this was a very frequently used, and horrible, aspect that played a huge role in smashing Bioware's biggest strengths into bits and pieces.  I'd say it even played a part in ruining the "exploration" of the universe, because the writing in the game had just as much to do with it (if not more than) the Mako.

[Auztin]

The thing about the default Pistols & Assault Rifles.I would have a Mattock & in the cutscene would give me an Avenger.