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[Blueprotoss]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

I never said I blamed Mac Walters. I don't blame Mac Waters, not individually.

If you don't blame him then why bring him up.

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

I know my points are opinion based, I never say they're facts and I endevour to make sure they don't appear that way.

You don't. People who disagree are 'igorant'. Not entirely sure what of, because you never post anything in the way of a supporting argument.

I deal with facts and opinions while I keep them separated.  If its really opinion then why lash out.

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Obviously not. 

Only the Reapers as an antagonist post-Leviathan.

The Reapers haven't contradicted themselves in the series and synthetic life don't appear without an organic past. 

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 12 septembre 2012 - 06:04 .

[Blueprotoss]

Troxa wrote...

Information integral to understanding the story should be in the damn game, not be tacked on later.
"Hey, we know it's frustrating and doesn't make any sense but not to worry. With another 30 dollars it'll all come together."

Thats a huge straw-mann especially when there is always a Creator and complaining about DLC when its optional.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 12 septembre 2012 - 06:07 .

[MattFini]

Ending.
Diminished role for Jack (and other ME2 folks)
Ending.
Priority: Earth

[Ananka]

 Autodialogue
Ending (in particular the Starbrat)
Very linear with side quests that are very much alike.

Modifié par Annaka, 12 septembre 2012 - 06:39 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

I never said I blamed Mac Walters. I don't blame Mac Waters, not individually.

If you don't blame him then why bring him up.

I didn't, I just added some information to the discussion. 

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

I know my points are opinion based, I never say they're facts and I endevour to make sure they don't appear that way.

You don't. People who disagree are 'igorant'. Not entirely sure what of, because you never post anything in the way of a supporting argument.

I deal with facts and opinions while I keep them separated.  If its really opinion then why lash out.

Because I don't take kindly to being called ignorant when I have nothing to be ignorant of. 

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Obviously not. 

Only the Reapers as an antagonist post-Leviathan.

The Reapers haven't contradicted themselves

Not a contradiction. They're just not good villains anymore, tools instead of merciless, malevolent sapient machines intent on our eradication for mysterious reasons, they're just the brainless mooks of the Catalyst, serving a deeply flawed goal. 

[Xamufam]

Blueprotoss wrote...

Troxa wrote...

Information integral to understanding the story should be in the damn game, not be tacked on later.
"Hey, we know it's frustrating and doesn't make any sense but not to worry. With another 30 dollars it'll all come together."

Thats a huge straw-mann especially when there is always a Creator and complaining about DLC when its optional.

Sorry but no we payed for a full game. They are selling us part of the main story.
Information integral to understanding the story should be in the damn game, not be tacked on later.
Optional content (DLC) should not be part of the main story.

Side storys that has really no real meaning to the mainstory can be sold as dlc
like Shadowbrooker & arrival, those two were not about the reapers & the collectors but leviathan is

Modifié par Troxa, 13 septembre 2012 - 07:13 .

[thearbiter1337]

The main 3 endings require you to spit on someones grave
Lack of Kasumi
Why can't i just tell the Catalyst "Sorry but can you please stop forcing Synthesis on me?"

[ref]

Everything. It's transformation is now complete as Gears of War with experience.

[Blueprotoss]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

Obviously not. 

Only the Reapers as an antagonist post-Leviathan.

The Reapers haven't contradicted themselves

Not a contradiction. They're just not good villains anymore, tools instead of merciless, malevolent sapient machines intent on our eradication for mysterious reasons, they're just the brainless mooks of the Catalyst, serving a deeply flawed goal. 

The Reapers haven't changed in ME3 from what was established in ME1 and ME2.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 13 septembre 2012 - 02:29 .

[Blueprotoss]

Troxa wrote...

Sorry but no we payed for a full game. They are selling us part of the main story.
Information integral to understanding the story should be in the damn game, not be tacked on later.
Optional content (DLC) should not be part of the main story.

Yet you did pay for a ful game especially when ME1 and ME2 are also full games that had DLC.  If you're going to complain about ME3 then you should have some substance by disliking ME2 for having lots of DLC.

Troxa wrote... 

Side storys that has really no real meaning to the mainstory can be sold as dlc
like Shadowbrooker & arrival, those two were not about the reapers & the collectors but leviathan is

Arrival was far from optional based on story since it was what caused Shepard to be on Earth at the beginning of ME3.  Leviathan is optional because the Reapers were known to have a creator since synthetic life doesn't create itself.

[Blueprotoss]

Refara wrote...

Everything. It's transformation is now complete as Gears of War with experience.

Gears isn't an RPG in the sense of the genre.

[The Night Mammoth]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

Obviously not. 

Only the Reapers as an antagonist post-Leviathan.

The Reapers haven't contradicted themselves

Not a contradiction. They're just not good villains anymore, tools instead of merciless, malevolent sapient machines intent on our eradication for mysterious reasons, they're just the brainless mooks of the Catalyst, serving a deeply flawed goal. 

The Reapers haven't changed in ME3 from what was established in ME1 and ME2.

I have no idea which games you're playing then because they were nothing like what they are now in ME1 and ME2s

The Catalyst didn't exist. The Leviathans didn't exist. The Catalyst's problem did not attempt to define the story. 

Whether you think it's a good change is fine by me, but there's no way you can deny that they've evolved considerably. 

[Blueprotoss]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

I have no idea which games you're playing then because they were nothing like what they are now in ME1 and ME2s

The Reapers haven't changed in ME3 from what was established in ME1 and ME2.

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

The Catalyst didn't exist. The Leviathans didn't exist. The Catalyst's problem did not attempt to define the story.

The Catalyst doesn't need to appear to exist until it was necessary llike how Harbinger appeared in ME2 not ME1.

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

Whether you think it's a good change is fine by me, but there's no way you can deny that they've evolved considerably.

The Reapers are still the Reapers and thats all that matters.

Modifié par Blueprotoss, 13 septembre 2012 - 03:16 .

[Luxure]

Like, half of the game. Sorry.

[KingZayd]

Blueprotoss wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Starchild

Then the Reapers as a whole would become a flaw.

Without the Starchild? No.
With the Starchild? the Reapers are ruined.

[KingZayd]

Blueprotoss wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

I have no idea which games you're playing then because they were nothing like what they are now in ME1 and ME2s

The Reapers haven't changed in ME3 from what was established in ME1 and ME2.

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

The Catalyst didn't exist. The Leviathans didn't exist. The Catalyst's problem did not attempt to define the story.

The Catalyst doesn't need to appear to exist until it was necessary llike how Harbinger appeared in ME2 not ME1.

The Night Mammoth wrote... 

Whether you think it's a good change is fine by me, but there's no way you can deny that they've evolved considerably.

The Reapers are still the Reapers and thats all that matters.

"Organic life is nothing but a genetic mutation, an accident" (so why preserve it?)

"Your extinction is inevitable. We are the end of everything" (not your preservation, not your ascension. Your EXTINCTION)

"Your civilisation is based on the technology of the mass relays, our technology. By using it, your society develops along the paths we desire"  Indicating that if the creation of dangerous synthetics is such a frequent problem, it is part of "the paths" the Reapers desire. And in fact we know that the Reapers have tried to use the Geth against us, and tried to use the Zha'til against the Protheans.

"We impose order on the chaos of organic evolution" No mention of Organics vs Synthetics in the entire conversation with Sovereign. But he speaks quite frankly.

"You exist because we allow it. And you wll end because we demand it." (Again, end, not ascend and not be preserved)

"We are each a nation, independent" Well clearly not independent with the Starchild.

"You cannot escape your doom." Again doom, not preservation and not ascension.

"Your words are as empty as your future. I am the vanguard of your destructtion" And again, destruction, not preservation and not ascension.

[LilLino]

Priority Earth and Breathe scene being too short.

[Kitten Tactics]

Tali was in it.

[M2S SOLID JOSH]

too many fetch quest, too little side quests, forced mp...im trying to limit myself here....its really hard. i tried playing again, even if its to stop before earth and i cant even enjoy it.

[Nkaj]

Not seeing Garrus in the ending scene.

[palician]

Troxa wrote...

The crucible
starbrat
that the scientists doesn't see that the crucible does 3 things
auto dialogue
that you directly just found the plans on mars how did they get there when both the relays & communication where down
Something magical called synthesis
The reapers a teddy bear is scarier
Mix between tragic hero & classic hero
The side missions
contrivances & plot holes
that the game wasnt planned
The ending
The writing

And much more

This
The reapers turning from darth sidious into ewoks is still cringe worthy.
Also the big choices from me1 & me2 making no real difference.

[ZeCollectorDestroya]

Too many fetch quests.
But the biggest flaw was the content. I expected so much more, at least 40 hours, like DAO. Priority:Earth is barebones. There is barely any side quests.

Kal'Reegar was killed off screen IN A ****ING EMAIL. Seriously? Damn shame.

[v3ct0r]

Wayning_Star wrote...

the missing link to the 'others' who dwell within the apex of civilization. They are out there somewhere, they are aware and will return. OR maybe they already have... but who,exactly are they? As powerful, or moreso than the Leviathan/catalyst program. Organic or synthetic? From within the MEU, or from darkspace? They've been manipulating Shepard and teasing his foes..to what end?

Why haven't they been exposed, or better yet, not come forward in all that time?

Same thoughts here

Troxa wrote...
Sorry but no we payed for a full game. They are selling us part of the main story.
Information integral to understanding the story should be in the damn game, not be tacked on later.
Optional content (DLC) should not be part of the main story.

Side storys that has really no real meaning to the mainstory can be sold as dlc
like Shadowbrooker & arrival, those two were not about the reapers & the collectors but leviathan is

First time i played ME3 without DLC's, and it left me with some holes in the story. After i got some DLC's, story was a bit clearer. It shouldn't be like that.

Modifié par v3ct0r, 16 septembre 2012 - 11:09 .

[JackN7]

EA

[Nkaj]

Also, it was a shame that even though the Geth were my biggest non-alliance war asset, they were not shown at all in the any of the cutscenes showing the final mission on earth. They just simply vanished.