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[StrawHatMoose]

Zeke0 wrote...

All I see is "Waaahhhhh, I won't win, so NO!"

You must have AIDS. Or mass effect 3 is your first game of the series. Probably both.

[Outlawstar15a2]

Zeke0 wrote...

All I see is "Waaahhhhh, I won't win, so NO!"

I'm beginning to think Albert Einstein was right about Space and Human Stupidity. Indeed the second is truly infinite.

Modifié par Outlawstar15a2, 31 août 2012 - 04:48 .

[SMBTheExile]

No. Making it PvP would cut adrift those of us who can't devote our every waking moment to the game. I'd suggest that most players are average and would quickly get fed up of being cannon fodder.

What sets ME Multiplayer apart is the co-op element.

[UKillMeLongTime]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Brother Takka]

BioWare says No!

[Zaixx]

Lol no

[TheEldrazi]

Why not pvp where teams fight it out as in, one team plays as reapers trying to storm something. The other plays N7's trying to stop the reapers? Sure it a one sided fist fight, but it'd be fun and fresh and wouldn't jack up story lines.

[Darthvero]

yarpenthemad21 wrote...

pvp in me3 is just impossible.
engine/communication protocol/balance/powers/weapons/even lore need to be changed.
it's easier to make new game.

this

[GhostShadow115]

NO

[aarnold1]

People are getting off track. Nobody is saying to take away coop and replace with PvP. The game should have 3 modes of play... Coop, Farm, and PvP. The trick is how it is done. This whole "Party of No" is really a limiting mindset. There are solutions for this that won't cause any grief to anyone. This is really about reaching all the markets. Look at Apple. Did they say "No" all the time? They make their products work and believe in saying "Yes" and appealing to everyone. I personally think that PvP would be a great addition to the game, but I will admit that I'd spend only 25% of my time using that mode, with the other 75% in coop games. I don't do farming but I believe they have a place in this game and should get their own mode too that has specific rules catering to them.

This whole "No" thing, it's really abusive to creative people.

[Asari Goddess]

Ok i think it wont work out well becuase
First of all pvp go better with only games like call of duty, Resident evil, ect.
Also mass effect characters have powers wich will make the match end fast like i bet a vangard will be spaming bioticcharge, n7 shadow spaming shadow strike, adepts spaming biotic detonations, ect.
All the characters are made to take out groups of enemies
Only class that would be fair on pvp would be soldier

Modifié par lmysterie, 31 août 2012 - 11:55 .

[aarnold1]

lmysterie wrote...

Ok i think it wont work out well becuase
First of all pvp go better with only games like call of duty, Resident evil, ect.
Also mass effect characters have powers wich will make the match end fast like i bet a vangard will be spaming bioticcharge, n7 shadow spaming shadow strike, adepts spaming biotic detonations, ect.
All the characters are made to take out groups of enemies
Only class that would be fair on pvp would be soldier

I don't get it.  With the new PvP match mode, you'd get a new set of characters with a new set of rules.  Each character would have a set of offensive and defensive skills from the ME playbook.  With defensive skills, you could max out your resistances to biotics so that they do 75% less damage, for an example.  Or you can max out defenses against other damage types like fire, cold, or tech damage.  Flip side is you can increase the damage by using ammo enhancers.  It's real easy to balance, it just requires a unique mode with all new rules.  I think people are mistaking the concept thinking that they'll take all of what we know and just apply PvP to it.  Everyone knows that won't work.  But Bioware also knows coming up with this new mode is a lot of work.  They'd have to charge a pretty big fee for it, like 1200 Bioware points or something, just to make up the development costs.  I do think there is a large enough market to justify it.

[synapsefire]

"New Game mode needed Play against other Players"

Is this what's refered to as "PaoP" in gaming lingo?

[PrimeGeth]

SoldierGirlJade wrote...

Play against other Players.

Sure ... why not?  Everybody here loves each other so much already anyway!!
Besides, this was a great idea the first time I heard it.    I liked it so much I went out and bought Call of Duty.

[Grunt_Platform]

aarnold1 wrote...
I don't get it.  With the new PvP match mode, you'd get a new set of characters with a new set of rules.  Each character would have a set of offensive and defensive skills from the ME playbook.  With defensive skills, you could max out your resistances to biotics so that they do 75% less damage, for an example.  Or you can max out defenses against other damage types like fire, cold, or tech damage.  Flip side is you can increase the damage by using ammo enhancers.  It's real easy to balance, it just requires a unique mode with all new rules.  I think people are mistaking the concept thinking that they'll take all of what we know and just apply PvP to it.  Everyone knows that won't work.  But Bioware also knows coming up with this new mode is a lot of work.  They'd have to charge a pretty big fee for it, like 1200 Bioware points or something, just to make up the development costs.  I do think there is a large enough market to justify it.

No. Not a good idea for ME3. Too many new mechanics would be needed for PVP to be any fun. Lag is still too much of a problem, too. Making it work would require an entirely new game. PVP games have higher balance needs than co-op games, it would not be even remotely easy to balance. We've seen how much work it's taking Bioware to balance the current multiplayer.

Making it pay-for DLC is an even worse idea, since you would only get a relatively small percentage of the players who play ME3's multiplayer buying it at all, which would mean a rather barren lobbies.

A PVP multiplayer mode in a Mass Effect game could be fun, but for it to be any good it would need to be designed from the ground up. I'm sure we'll have one somewhere down the road, but ME3's multiplayer was able to re-use a lot of resources from the single player, and it kind of relies on that.

Modifié par EvanKester, 01 septembre 2012 - 01:08 .

[iceman6773]

Only way PVP would ever work is if it was L4D versus style.
Only difference is some assault trooper, hunters, and etc. are controlled by real players.
This would only increase difficulty for N7 players, because now the enemy can use some tactics.
Overall I think it could be fun for both sides.

Other ideas i can't see working very well.

[Syrus101]

*facepalms*

this has been discussed before. the skills each class has would NOT work in a PvP format... I mean common.... Lash would ruin EVERYONE'S day amoung other powers. there would be A LOT of changing to be done IF it where to go PvP

the Devs already said there aint going to be PvP if you want it please go play another game....

[robarcool]

New game modes? Yes. Don't know how PVP will fare in this game though.

[Rifneno]

aarnold1 wrote...

People are getting off track. Nobody is saying to take away coop and replace with PvP. The game should have 3 modes of play... Coop, Farm, and PvP. The trick is how it is done. This whole "Party of No" is really a limiting mindset. There are solutions for this that won't cause any grief to anyone. This is really about reaching all the markets. Look at Apple. Did they say "No" all the time? They make their products work and believe in saying "Yes" and appealing to everyone. I personally think that PvP would be a great addition to the game, but I will admit that I'd spend only 25% of my time using that mode, with the other 75% in coop games. I don't do farming but I believe they have a place in this game and should get their own mode too that has specific rules catering to them.

This whole "No" thing, it's really abusive to creative people.

There's nothing creative about PvP, so...

[ErrorTagUnknown]

Rifneno wrote...

Zeke0 wrote...

All I see is "Waaahhhhh, I won't win, so NO!"

If that's all you see, you should lay off the hallucinogens.

worst. advice. ever.

[SavagelyEpic]

STOP REVIVING THIS THREAD AND LET IT DIE

I second the motion for a permanent forum and in-game ban for the OP.

[Lunaticsmith]

I think there should be a game mode where you play with other people against npc.

[g40max]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Shpoon wrote...

I'd rather leave it at co-op. PvP doesn't interest me.

More importantly, PvP with the current system would be a nightmare.

exactly... It would be so difficult to get right, I'd rather bioware focus on fine-tuning the existing stuff

[-Sxx-]

JackumsD wrote...

legion9511 wrote...

Also another interesting game video i saw today was Aliens: Colonial Marines

http://asia.gamespot...ColonialMarines

This looks awesome. I can't wait for this game. AvP (2010) was brilliant.

Could've been better. Much, much better. Instead it wasn't and it was abandoned. Doubt ACM is going to be any different.

SoldierGirlJade wrote...

New Game mode needed Play against other Players. Some kind of conquest type game mode where you get to battle it out against other players would grow this game and make it more popular.
 
Playing against the AI is fun but nothing is better than testing your skills against other players.

Modifié par Dest1ny, 01 septembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[ErrorTagUnknown]

maybe ME PvP would be a good time..... but it would have to be a whole seperate game. We couldn't just take ME3 MP and make a quick conversion to make PvP .... it wouldn't be a new game mode, it would be a whole new game. I suppose like counterstrike had so and so vs. terrorists, you'd have alliance vs. Mercs ... or council vs. mercs or something like that. But again, it would be an entirely different game. And frankly, it wouldn't really have a lot special over the games that do PvP great as is.... (Seeing as most of the powers would not work well at all in PvP (as already said, any of the telekinetic ones....sabotage if you're a synthetic....etc. Basically it would end up being almost all guns, plus occasional pure damage powers.... so you'd end up with guns/incinerate/warp/reave/smash/shockwave/etc.... and really how much more would that add over Modern ****fare/ Call of Booty and the like to make it actually have a niche against those monsters? it would cater to a small market of people who love PvP shooters, but love mass effect enough to play an inferior pvp shooter just for the motif)