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[plfranke]

I hate the ending so much. I feel as if it abandoned the core themes of Mass Effect. However, I've seen some people that like it. If there is one logical, intelligent person on this board that liked the ending, please come here and give me your reasons why. I'm tired of the arguing between ending haters and ending lovers. I already know all the reasons to hate the ending, now I want to know the reasons to like it.

[Sulious Vandomar]

... you posted on the wrong forum, buddy.

Modifié par Sulious Vandomar, 31 août 2012 - 12:20 .

[MerchantGOL]

Are you gonna actually listen to the feed back and accept the validity of the opinions of others or are you just argue if you see some thing you don't agree with?

[Mazebook]

for starters the music.
gets me every time.

The simple but beautiful exchange between Anderson last words and Shepard.

The feeling that the reapers are more than just evil machines. They are tragic. born out of creature that can not understand...that was given a task that is impossible to do...

Shepard sacrifice.

EDI crying over a lost friend in synthesis.

a few reasons to love the ending...I have more if you want to hear them.

Modifié par maaaze, 31 août 2012 - 12:26 .

[plfranke]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Are you gonna actually listen to the feed back and accept the validity of the opinions of others or are you just argue if you see some thing you don't agree with?

I'm not going to argue. If I see something you say though that I don't understand I will question it though. For instance if some just says "I Love Synthesis!" and their explanation of it is something like it's just beautiful. I'll ask How do you deal with Husks and Cannibals having self awareness now. Stuff like that. But no I'm through with arguing.

[ShepnTali]

You can't. It either clicks for you or it doesn't. The best you can do is headcanon or forget about it if you want to enjoy the game at all.

Modifié par ShepnTali, 31 août 2012 - 12:29 .

[plfranke]

ShepnTali wrote...

You can't. It either clicks for you or it doesn't. The best you can do is headcanon or forget about it if you want to enjoy the game at all.

I'm starting to think that's the way it is.

[Demon560]

if you don't like them, than just voice your opinion over and over on these forums, just let the anger and the despair out soon you'll get over 'em, you might still not like them but you won't HATE them, just really dislike them, or just headcanon your own ending like Bioware wanted you to, Synthesis Sunshine and butterflies, Control God, Destroy defeated an ancient horror, or something like that, you can also hope for a better ending, stop playing for a while let it go then play it again later, or go to multiplayer pretty much all action, better challenge and new powers, just do what ever you feel is best.

[Lionheart316]

When I heard that it will be Shepard's final tale, it was a forecoming that something will happen to Shepard. So I was more or less prepare for what it is to come.

I always been sort of bittersweet ending person. Nobody gets their happy ending because that's how most stories of people get and that is how I prefer my cup of tea. So honestly, if you feel that the ending has been frustrating for you, what can I say? You more or less made up your mind about the ending and only seeking solace with people to help you ease the pain.

I for one am glad that I got to see through it all because I have seen so many TV shows which I enjoy get canceled. Although I still hope for blue children someday for Shepard, there's probably not going to happen and will probably exist in my mind where I keep my stories there.

[Rip504]

Without mind altering drugs or severe head damage... I may be at a loss for words then. I enjoy Destroy,as it was one of my goals since ME1. That is the destruction of both the Reapers and Geth. I also receive an extra scene. So it is what it is. (Mind altering drugs can help to enhance the experience,but I can not and do not condone these type of actions.As they can harm your life in many ways.)

People claiming you should head-cannon your own ending... I do agree with,or at least some of your issues should be head cannon while accepting what happen in the disaster that is ME3.

I would like a way to enjoy the game,but I can not seem to find it. A mixture of all three titles would have been nice. Exploration,side missions and combat in one game doesn't seem like an impossibility to me. Perhaps I am mistaken,but BW/EA no longer deserve your money for the quality of product they are releasing. IMO BW is dying a Mandalorian Death.

[CaptainZaysh]

plfranke wrote...

If there is one logical, intelligent person on this board that liked the ending, please come here and give me your reasons why.

That's not logical.  Just because Zaysh liked it doesn't mean Franke must like it.

Maybe if you told us the reasons you didn't like it we could help.  You say it abandoned the core themes of Mass Effect, but what do you mean by that exactly?

[Hudathan]

^ What he said

Modifié par Hudathan, 31 août 2012 - 12:50 .

[Baa Baa]

ShepnTali wrote...

You can't. It either clicks for you or it doesn't. The best you can do is headcanon or forget about it if you want to enjoy the game at all.

[MegaSovereign]

I sent a PM.

I'm testing my indoctrination abilities.

[babymoon]

Don't fight it.

[MerchantGOL]

plfranke wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Are you gonna actually listen to the feed back and accept the validity of the opinions of others or are you just argue if you see some thing you don't agree with?

I'm not going to argue. If I see something you say though that I don't understand I will question it though. For instance if some just says "I Love Synthesis!" and their explanation of it is something like it's just beautiful. I'll ask How do you deal with Husks and Cannibals having self awareness now. Stuff like that. But no I'm through with arguing.

well ill start with broad reasons.

It is shot and scored epicly for starters, angles used, dialouge spoken, the music the imagery is all grand.

moving on to the more complex story reasons. i find it to be the perfect ender to the serise,  its always been about choice, big  Choices and they aren't easy, they cant be Betrayal and genocide has always been presented as a viable option as far back as me1. Futher more The first me game set the tone for the serise perfectly where in the span of an half an hour you not only are forced to sacrafice a squad mate and potential love intrest, but you can gun down a freind in some what cold blood. These are the stakes and main themes the game was founded on Choice, Sacrafice, and questionable methods. and the ending lives up to the promise the first  game made completley to me.

Shepard Sacrafices himself, making the choice he feels is the best for every one he fights for, it cant and should not be an easy choice. vicotry should not be some thing easily and completly acomilished when facing the threat they did. Shepard giving every thing for every one is the perfect cap to his character and his story [even if he survies  he still went into it beliving he would die]

The choices all have their pros and cons, and they both have some forshadowing.

Alot of Critisim comes from syntheisi  for having it no Explenation [it dose It is a confirmed fact  people can be implanted via energy] forshadowing [It dose: Saren, Shepard himself]. and that  it may rid  gnetic diversity no these are debatable, but  people  fail to see the overwhelming postive the races of the galaxy now have a bridge and a path to a true lasting  peace via understanding.

Control is the best ending for me because shepard lives on in way but  he can also safegaurd the galaxy, i do not belive a paragon shepard will become a dictator, after the rebuilding the most i see him doing out side construction [even thats a maybe] is steping in to stop an armed conflict. Leaving shepard as the eternal garudian makes for a fitting end to my  cannon shepard.

[Hudathan]

My simple answer: that it's interesting.

[kyban]

It's really hard to do OP.

You first have to start by forgetting the majority of the first two games. As hard as that is to do, you have to start there. And then take each ending at face value. DONT THINK. Thinking too deeply starts to break the endings apart. This is what worked for me, I spent a large amount of time examining the endings and what they mean.

I found that each ending is really quite beautiful in it's own way.
Synthesis is a great ideal, it encourages everlasting peace and happiness.
Paragon Control is great too. Shepard is now the protector of the entire galaxy.
Destroy completes what you set out to do since ME1. You lose a lot in destroy, but the reapers are finally dead.

If you take a moment to fully realize Shepards self sacrifice, it's really quite touching.
(Did you like the Dark Knight Rises? *spoiler* If Batman had died, I would have totally been OK with it. It was actually that movie that made me consider choosing Paragon Control.)

For me, that's it. In order to like these endings, I have to forget what Mass Effect was and accept the endings up front without going into much detail.

Modifié par kyban, 31 août 2012 - 01:15 .

[Kamfrenchie]

It's a question of standards for entertainment andstory telling, now I say this with no offense mant, but imo the people who love the ending either have low standard and fall for the "emotion" or they just can invent some hidden briliance no mtter how poo the story is.

No offense again, I myself have quite low standards for food, I'm happy with basic stuff i can put in the microwave an eat 5 min later

I can not lower my standards, and the nding havin any kind of greatnes is just implausible to me. The whole ME3 scenario is terribad, wth the contrived crucible, reapers becoming stupid invincible instead of smart and though, cerbberus going fll retard, Hackett sitting on his ass and using no stategy at all, C-sec incompetence, vndetta and asari stupdity, Legion's forcd sacrifice, etc.

nd also, seriously, no drafts ? no massiv mobilisation ? no vault project ? nothing ? le the galaxy burn, it deserves it. Wait, there is garus and tali left, they deserve to live. Let's pick destroy and be done with this universse

It's just too much.

[Kamfrenchie]

MerchantGOL wrote...

plfranke wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Are you gonna actually listen to the feed back and accept the validity of the opinions of others or are you just argue if you see some thing you don't agree with?

I'm not going to argue. If I see something you say though that I don't understand I will question it though. For instance if some just says "I Love Synthesis!" and their explanation of it is something like it's just beautiful. I'll ask How do you deal with Husks and Cannibals having self awareness now. Stuff like that. But no I'm through with arguing.

well ill start with broad reasons.

It is shot and scored epicly for starters, angles used, dialouge spoken, the music the imagery is all grand.

moving on to the more complex story reasons. i find it to be the perfect ender to the serise,  its always been about choice, big  Choices and they aren't easy, they cant be Betrayal and genocide has always been presented as a viable option as far back as me1. Futher more The first me game set the tone for the serise perfectly where in the span of an half an hour you not only are forced to sacrafice a squad mate and potential love intrest, but you can gun down a freind in some what cold blood. These are the stakes and main themes the game was founded on Choice, Sacrafice, and questionable methods. and the ending lives up to the promise the first  game made completley to me.

Shepard Sacrafices himself, making the choice he feels is the best for every one he fights for, it cant and should not be an easy choice. vicotry should not be some thing easily and completly acomilished when facing the threat they did. Shepard giving every thing for every one is the perfect cap to his character and his story [even if he survies  he still went into it beliving he would die]

The choices all have their pros and cons, and they both have some forshadowing.

Alot of Critisim comes from syntheisi  for having it no Explenation [it dose It is a confirmed fact  people can be implanted via energy] forshadowing [It dose: Saren, Shepard himself]. and that  it may rid  gnetic diversity no these are debatable, but  people  fail to see the overwhelming postive the races of the galaxy now have a bridge and a path to a true lasting  peace via understanding.

Control is the best ending for me because shepard lives on in way but  he can also safegaurd the galaxy, i do not belive a paragon shepard will become a dictator, after the rebuilding the most i see him doing out side construction [even thats a maybe] is steping in to stop an armed conflict. Leaving shepard as the eternal garudian makes for a fitting end to my  cannon shepard.

synthsis has no explanation at all seriouly, peope being imlante with energy has nothing to do with synthesis

[MerchantGOL]

Kamfrenchie wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

plfranke wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Are you gonna actually listen to the feed back and accept the validity of the opinions of others or are you just argue if you see some thing you don't agree with?

I'm not going to argue. If I see something you say though that I don't understand I will question it though. For instance if some just says "I Love Synthesis!" and their explanation of it is something like it's just beautiful. I'll ask How do you deal with Husks and Cannibals having self awareness now. Stuff like that. But no I'm through with arguing.

well ill start with broad reasons.

It is shot and scored epicly for starters, angles used, dialouge spoken, the music the imagery is all grand.

moving on to the more complex story reasons. i find it to be the perfect ender to the serise,  its always been about choice, big  Choices and they aren't easy, they cant be Betrayal and genocide has always been presented as a viable option as far back as me1. Futher more The first me game set the tone for the serise perfectly where in the span of an half an hour you not only are forced to sacrafice a squad mate and potential love intrest, but you can gun down a freind in some what cold blood. These are the stakes and main themes the game was founded on Choice, Sacrafice, and questionable methods. and the ending lives up to the promise the first  game made completley to me.

Shepard Sacrafices himself, making the choice he feels is the best for every one he fights for, it cant and should not be an easy choice. vicotry should not be some thing easily and completly acomilished when facing the threat they did. Shepard giving every thing for every one is the perfect cap to his character and his story [even if he survies  he still went into it beliving he would die]

The choices all have their pros and cons, and they both have some forshadowing.

Alot of Critisim comes from syntheisi  for having it no Explenation [it dose It is a confirmed fact  people can be implanted via energy] forshadowing [It dose: Saren, Shepard himself]. and that  it may rid  gnetic diversity no these are debatable, but  people  fail to see the overwhelming postive the races of the galaxy now have a bridge and a path to a true lasting  peace via understanding.

Control is the best ending for me because shepard lives on in way but  he can also safegaurd the galaxy, i do not belive a paragon shepard will become a dictator, after the rebuilding the most i see him doing out side construction [even thats a maybe] is steping in to stop an armed conflict. Leaving shepard as the eternal garudian makes for a fitting end to my  cannon shepard.

synthsis has no explanation at all seriouly, peope being imlante with energy has nothing to do with synthesis

i  dont see how you can say that, its clearly the same process on a much grander scale.

[Mazebook]

Kamfrenchie wrote...

It's a question of standards for entertainment andstory telling, now I say this with no offense mant, but imo the people who love the ending either have low standard and fall for the "emotion" or they just can invent some hidden briliance no mtter how poo the story is.

No offense again, I myself have quite low standards for food, I'm happy with basic stuff i can put in the microwave an eat 5 min later

I can not lower my standards, and the nding havin any kind of greatnes is just implausible to me. The whole ME3 scenario is terribad, wth the contrived crucible, reapers becoming stupid invincible instead of smart and though, cerbberus going fll retard, Hackett sitting on his ass and using no stategy at all, C-sec incompetence, vndetta and asari stupdity, Legion's forcd sacrifice, etc.

nd also, seriously, no drafts ? no massiv mobilisation ? no vault project ? nothing ? le the galaxy burn, it deserves it. Wait, there is garus and tali left, they deserve to live. Let's pick destroy and be done with this universse

It's just too much.

I take offense in what you said. 

I could also say "no offense, but you are to stupid to understand the ending."
It is the same kind of arguement.

[Kamfrenchie]

maaaze wrote...

Kamfrenchie wrote...

It's a question of standards for entertainment andstory telling, now I say this with no offense mant, but imo the people who love the ending either have low standard and fall for the "emotion" or they just can invent some hidden briliance no mtter how poo the story is.

No offense again, I myself have quite low standards for food, I'm happy with basic stuff i can put in the microwave an eat 5 min later

I can not lower my standards, and the nding havin any kind of greatnes is just implausible to me. The whole ME3 scenario is terribad, wth the contrived crucible, reapers becoming stupid invincible instead of smart and though, cerbberus going fll retard, Hackett sitting on his ass and using no stategy at all, C-sec incompetence, vndetta and asari stupdity, Legion's forcd sacrifice, etc.

nd also, seriously, no drafts ? no massiv mobilisation ? no vault project ? nothing ? le the galaxy burn, it deserves it. Wait, there is garus and tali left, they deserve to live. Let's pick destroy and be done with this universse

It's just too much.

I take offense in what you said. 

I could also say "no offense, but you are to stupid to understand the ending."
It is the same kind of arguement.

please maaze, i understand the ending well, and it's stupid, just like the whole plot. But whatever, for you it's the perfect game and you don't see any flaw in it, even despite he bioware lies.
I've played many games and undrstod all endinngs, ME3 ending is stupid

[MerchantGOL]

Kamfrenchie wrote...

It's a question of standards for entertainment andstory telling, now I say this with no offense mant, but imo the people who love the ending either have low standard and fall for the "emotion" or they just can invent some hidden briliance no mtter how poo the story is.

No offense again, I myself have quite low standards for food, I'm happy with basic stuff i can put in the microwave an eat 5 min later

I can not lower my standards, and the nding havin any kind of greatnes is just implausible to me. The whole ME3 scenario is terribad, wth the contrived crucible, reapers becoming stupid invincible instead of smart and though, cerbberus going fll retard, Hackett sitting on his ass and using no stategy at all, C-sec incompetence, vndetta and asari stupdity, Legion's forcd sacrifice, etc.

nd also, seriously, no drafts ? no massiv mobilisation ? no vault project ? nothing ? le the galaxy burn, it deserves it. Wait, there is garus and tali left, they deserve to live. Let's pick destroy and be done with this universse

It's just too much.

i am offended that iam basically being told i have low standards by some one who cant spell.

Modifié par MerchantGOL, 31 août 2012 - 02:12 .

[Mazebook]

Kamfrenchie wrote...

maaaze wrote...

Kamfrenchie wrote...

It's a question of standards for entertainment andstory telling, now I say this with no offense mant, but imo the people who love the ending either have low standard and fall for the "emotion" or they just can invent some hidden briliance no mtter how poo the story is.

No offense again, I myself have quite low standards for food, I'm happy with basic stuff i can put in the microwave an eat 5 min later

I can not lower my standards, and the nding havin any kind of greatnes is just implausible to me. The whole ME3 scenario is terribad, wth the contrived crucible, reapers becoming stupid invincible instead of smart and though, cerbberus going fll retard, Hackett sitting on his ass and using no stategy at all, C-sec incompetence, vndetta and asari stupdity, Legion's forcd sacrifice, etc.

nd also, seriously, no drafts ? no massiv mobilisation ? no vault project ? nothing ? le the galaxy burn, it deserves it. Wait, there is garus and tali left, they deserve to live. Let's pick destroy and be done with this universse

It's just too much.

I take offense in what you said. 

I could also say "no offense, but you are to stupid to understand the ending."
It is the same kind of arguement.

please maaze, i understand the ending well, and it's stupid, just like the whole plot. But whatever, for you it's the perfect game and you don't see any flaw in it, even despite he bioware lies.
I've played many games and undrstod all endinngs, ME3 ending is stupid

1. never said it was the perfect game
2. I was talking about your arguements that are just "I don´t like it and if you disagree you have low standart."
   Something I really disagree and find quite offensive.
3. This Thread is about the reasons people to like the ending and not why you did not like them or what´s your oppinion about people who like them. You are derailing the thread.

Modifié par maaaze, 31 août 2012 - 02:09 .