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Geth infiltrator is so overpowered
Geth infiltrator is so overpowered
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 07:58
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 08:30
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PKSovereign wrote...
Optimistman wrote...
Geth infiltrator is so overpowered
hahahahaha, I can't stop laughing
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#253
Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 08:32
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When you take GI with piranna its really good on gold and plat, but try to use carnifex or paladin. I mean very good guns, but on plat dif you have a lot more work. The GI is not overpowered, its just matter of dif and gun you are using. GI is now just so useable on plat without good shotgun. You cant nerf character because of someones choise of gun. Think before you start a topic with anger and nextime just use brain first.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 08:58
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The GI is overpowered only due to the combination of Tactical Cloak, Hunter Mode, and Prox Mine. The problem is that you cannot balance those skills separately without severely harming other classes.
The only thing I can see that would make it work is removing Prox mine, but then what do you add in it's place?
The only thing I can see that would make it work is removing Prox mine, but then what do you add in it's place?
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 09:05
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Well w/out prox mine he would be useless. And prox does make killing easier for everybody in the team. The 20% of for 8sec, the whole team can benefit from that. Especially w/ bosses. The HM have only 17,5% damage, that is nothing. And half of his shields for that low damage debuff? And the cloack? Only 5sec if you want 80% damage? Well...
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 09:11
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 09:20
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Well w/out prox mine he would be useless. And prox does make killing easier for everybody in the team. The 20% of for 8sec, the whole team can benefit from that. Especially w/ bosses. The HM have only 17,5% damage, that is nothing. And half of his shields for that low damage debuff? And the cloack? Only 5sec if you want 80% damage? Well...
Half of base shields, remember that. Once you take 4 evos in Fitness, you have overcome the lost amount. With a shotgun build, it is easy to have good shields, , max tc damage, max HM damage, max passive damage, and a stacking 20% damage buff.
Prox Mine stacks with itself, so in 8 seconds you can easily put a 40-60% damage buff on a boss, while still shooting it.
TC and HM by themselves, not a problem. TC, HM, and Prox Mines create the issue. You can't take away TC or hit it harder without killing Infiltrators. You can't kill HM without hurting the Geth Engineer. That leaves Prox mine, but that is a very needed power on the Turian Soldier and to a lesser extent on the Salarian Infiltrator.
I don't have a fix other than replacing PM on the GI, but like I said, it won't be easy to replace and stay within the theme of the class. Overload is about the only other power that isn't a grenade that might work. You certainly can't give him ED without completely nullifying the shield hit from HM.
In the end, even though the class is OP, it does take some skill to use and I don't see an overabundance of them unless I am doing speed runs. I just hope Bioware doesn't hit TC or HM again, that would suck.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 09:29
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Sal inf doesnt need a prox mine at all. His en drain w/ radius is all you need to use. HM on GE is also unnecessary. Full fitness, turret and chain overloadis just fine. taking eng shields w/out TC is pointless.But back to GI.If you take 4 fitness( 5 really ), then you will not have that much damage or good recharge time for doing yours 40-60% dam. So it is balanced again.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 09:56
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 11:24
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Why not -99% shield penalty?
it doesn't make a difference on higher difficulties. Even with maxed and shield strength whilst hunter mode is active, the majority of the enemies STILL one-shot your sheilds, leaving you vulnerable to damage towards your health bar. So increasing the shield penalty will literally make no difference.
He also isn't that over powered. Quarian Male + maxed out tactical scan and tactical cloak for damage does quite a lot of damage too as it adds up to 112.5% damage. This is also without the character having a shield penalty.
So yes, the GIis powerful, but also very squishy, which is why a lot of people who usually attempt to use him, fail.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 12:23
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Geth Infiltrator is overpowered, over-abundance or not.
Perhaps nerfing him would force devs to make the other characters more balanced for the purpose of playing on Gold and Platinum modes but honestly speaking I wouldn't expect that much from them as they're so-so in balancing things and they tend to add new characters and weapons faster than they are able to balance them - in the end ME3 will be played only by 13y old kids with too much pocket money to spend.
Now it's either bunch of GI's supported by some other infiltrators or full-biotic team in Platinum.
This or camping or dying.
Perhaps nerfing him would force devs to make the other characters more balanced for the purpose of playing on Gold and Platinum modes but honestly speaking I wouldn't expect that much from them as they're so-so in balancing things and they tend to add new characters and weapons faster than they are able to balance them - in the end ME3 will be played only by 13y old kids with too much pocket money to spend.
Now it's either bunch of GI's supported by some other infiltrators or full-biotic team in Platinum.
This or camping or dying.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 12:55
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Come on, GI is the squishiest character in the whole game, you loose your sheild, you are dead, plus if you are using cloak all the time it's hard to regenerate your shields in the meantime. Only good players can make GI "Overpowered". I bet the creator of this thread can't even beat 100k points mark on gold with GI
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:22
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Come on, GI is the squishiest character in the whole game, you loose your sheild, you are dead, plus if you are using cloak all the time it's hard to regenerate your shields in the meantime. Only good players can make GI "Overpowered". I bet the creator of this thread can't even beat 100k points mark on gold with GI
Ummm.... no. Hunter Mode and Tac. Cloak give you an amazing amount of survivability. If anything, the GI's one of the (if not THE) "tankiest" Infiltrator in the game.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:27
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Lathrim wrote...
Elfonztm wrote...
Come on, GI is the squishiest character in the whole game, you loose your sheild, you are dead, plus if you are using cloak all the time it's hard to regenerate your shields in the meantime. Only good players can make GI "Overpowered". I bet the creator of this thread can't even beat 100k points mark on gold with GI
Ummm.... no. Hunter Mode and Tac. Cloak give you an amazing amount of survivability. If anything, the GI's one of the (if not THE) "tankiest" Infiltrator in the game.
That is a horrible way to describe the GI.
I believe Elfonztm is correct.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:27
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I think the OP should be banned for whining. Or maybe someone should get him some cheese.
Seriously, grow the hell up man. "Baw people are good at the game, I'm not having fun, save me Bioware"
Grow up.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:37
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You want some cheese with that whine. How about you stick with the original game that was produced and stop whining like a girl. Nothing needed nerfied thats why over 50% of the player base has left the game entirely. Everyone is sick of players moaning about how they are getting beat or whatever and they want that character to be weaker. If you dont like it dont play as it. Stop trying to get other players characters nerfed just cause you suck with the one youre playing with. I dont recall very many games that are consistantly changed like this (cough cough CoD) and you don't see them whining about how a guns weaker than another. Its called reality guns aren't all the same and they shouldn't be made the same in a virtual world either its common sense, something that all of these nerfers seem to be lacking in. Play the game and stop whinging.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:54
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He's not overpowered, the Geth Infiltrator is supposed to be a high damage dealer, a slayer you could say. But really squishy. The only reason they probably killed stuff so quick was that they de-buff everything with proxy mine and had decent consumables on.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 04:09
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DrDueces wrote...
You want some cheese with that whine. How about you stick with the original game that was produced and stop whining like a girl. Nothing needed nerfied thats why over 50% of the player base has left the game entirely. Everyone is sick of players moaning about how they are getting beat or whatever and they want that character to be weaker. If you dont like it dont play as it. Stop trying to get other players characters nerfed just cause you suck with the one youre playing with. I dont recall very many games that are consistantly changed like this (cough cough CoD) and you don't see them whining about how a guns weaker than another. Its called reality guns aren't all the same and they shouldn't be made the same in a virtual world either its common sense, something that all of these nerfers seem to be lacking in. Play the game and stop whinging.
Agreed
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 04:11
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DrDueces wrote...
You want some cheese with that whine. How about you stick with the original game that was produced and stop whining like a girl. Nothing needed nerfied thats why over 50% of the player base has left the game entirely. Everyone is sick of players moaning about how they are getting beat or whatever and they want that character to be weaker. If you dont like it dont play as it. Stop trying to get other players characters nerfed just cause you suck with the one youre playing with. I dont recall very many games that are consistantly changed like this (cough cough CoD) and you don't see them whining about how a guns weaker than another. Its called reality guns aren't all the same and they shouldn't be made the same in a virtual world either its common sense, something that all of these nerfers seem to be lacking in. Play the game and stop whinging.
You spelled "whining" wrong. Your entire point is moot now.
#272
Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 04:17
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I can't take this seriously just because of all the characters that are being called OP in the original post.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 07:20
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What if we make the Geth infiltrator an ultra-rare?
