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Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.

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Just unlocked it FINALLY last night... can't wait to try it out when I get off work.. any suggestions BSNers???

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It goes CLANG CLANG CLANG.

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mybudgee wrote...

Just unlocked it FINALLY last night... can't wait to try it out when I get off work.. any suggestions BSNers???

Headshot. Piercing mod.
It also has the quirk of not immeaditly returning to the peak accuracy, which is adaptable.

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Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.

Has way more ammo than the paladin
Has better range than the talon

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Poor man's Paladin.

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Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.


Larger clip, more reliable stagger on basic enemies, can stagger bosses unlike the Paladin, more spare ammo, more damage, and using it doesn't restrict you from using a Scorpion, Acolyte, or Talon as a sidearm unlike the Paladin.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:42 .


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mybudgee wrote...

Just unlocked it FINALLY last night... can't wait to try it out when I get off work.. any suggestions BSNers???


When you getting on? Hit me up will help you with it. 

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.


Larger clip, more reliable stagger on basic enemies, can stagger bosses unlike the Paladin, more spare ammo, more damage, and using it doesn't restrict you from using a Scorpion, Acolyte, or Talon as a sidearm unlike the Paladin.


Actually the Saber is about 4 points stronger than the Paladin and its much weaker than the Talon..its not more damaging.
The Paladin has the same power shot for shot and had higher DPS due to a better rate of fire...Saber staggers and has a bigger mag but thats the only benefit I can see.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.


Larger clip, more reliable stagger on basic enemies, can stagger bosses unlike the Paladin, more spare ammo, more damage, and using it doesn't restrict you from using a Scorpion, Acolyte, or Talon as a sidearm unlike the Paladin.


Paladin does a tiny bit more damage per bullet and shoots faster (apparently Saber hits harder now).
Staggering normal mobs is pointless when you can just one/two-shot them (that's the point if this kind of weapon).
And you can't stagger bosses with it, atleast in platinum.

Modifié par Rubios, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:56 .


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Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.


The Paladin does less damage, has 5 less rounds per magazine, has WAY less backup ammo, and doesn't sound or look nearly as cool.

What's the point in the Paladin?

Rubios wrote...

Poor man's Paladin.


Why would a better gun be the poor man's choice?
Is the richer man stupid? :?

Check your facts dude... Saber does more damage than the Paladin now.

Modifié par Drummernate, 01 septembre 2012 - 04:51 .


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I have level X but i rarely use it , is so weak in close quarter

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Yeah, people have been asking this question since day 1. Look, if the only way you determine the value of a gun is based on the stats and numerical data that represents it, then you should go play with an excel spreadsheet. If you actually want to equip the rifle and fire it, you can learn to appreciate how much fun it is to use. People still play games to have fun, right?

The tremendous thump the Saber makes each time it fires, and the joy of emptying a clip as quickly as possible is not something you are going to be able to understand with a statistic.

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Drummernate wrote...

Rubios wrote...

Poor man's Paladin.


Why would a better gun be the poor man's choice?
Is the richer man stupid? :?

Check your facts dude... Saber does more damage than the Paladin now.


Didn't know they fixed it, good it has some use now.

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Drummernate wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.


The Paladin does less damage, has 5 less rounds per magazine, has WAY less backup ammo, and doesn't sound or look nearly as cool.

What's the point in the Paladin?

Rubios wrote...

Poor man's Paladin.


Why would a better gun be the poor man's choice?
Is the richer man stupid? :?

Check your facts dude... Saber does more damage than the Paladin now.


Last figures I saw showed the Paladin as still having better dps than the saber if you fast reload.
These are the damage numbers I have..are they wrong?

Saber x 534

Paladin X 531

Talon X 878

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TommyNg wrote...

I have level X but i rarely use it , is so weak in close quarter

They get close?

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mybudgee wrote...

Just unlocked it FINALLY last night... can't wait to try it out when I get off work.. any suggestions BSNers???


Turian Soldier specced for RoF on Marksman.  Use it with AP mod and stability mod.  Kill all things.

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You can't compare it to a Mattock or Harrier. It's mechanics are completely different. It nearly has the same damage per bullet as the Paladin but has 6 shots. Slap on EB and AP mod, then incendiary ammo. It's very effective. The numbers don't do justice.

It also sounds like a dreadnaught cannon. It feels....really good.

EDIT: Yeah well screw reload canceling. Honestly it feels like a glitch that Bioware didn't feel like fixing.

Modifié par ArtGerhardt, 01 septembre 2012 - 05:07 .


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Gotta love the "Big Iron". My first unlocked UR and first maxed UR.

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Badpanzer wrote...

Last figures I saw showed the Paladin as still having better dps than the saber if you fast reload.
These are the damage numbers I have..are they wrong?

Saber x 534

Paladin X 531

Talon X 878


Once again, DPS is a very inexact measure of a guns performance.  Realistically, it only matters when taking down giant punching bags.  Basically, the Atlas and the Geth Prime (arguments could be made both ways for Banshees).  Saber will take down more small enemies faster than the paladin.  Additionally, the extra damage it does per shot allows for more build flexibility.  Talon is very good, but needs to be in the hands of an accuracy boosting class or at close range to do its listed damage.  

EDIT:  Realized you meant damage per shot, not DPS.  I apologize.  I still stand by my point, though.

Modifié par tyhw, 01 septembre 2012 - 05:11 .


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Gravisanimi wrote...

TommyNg wrote...

I have level X but i rarely use it , is so weak in close quarter

They get close?


Tisk tisk tisk!

Now there is your problem! ^_^

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So even after the buff it only does 3 more DPS than a far lighter handgun?

What a potato :lol:

Modifié par Rubios, 01 septembre 2012 - 05:06 .


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Rubios wrote...

So even after the buff it only does 3 more DPS than a far lighter handgun?

What a potato :lol:


No its does 4 points more damage shot for shot...its DPS is LOWER than the Paladins by about 100 points.

The saber is a slower heavier paladin with a bigger magazine.

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The Saber is my favorite weapon in the game, no contest. I use it on half my characters (usually with extended mag/AP mods), and mine is one of the five UR's I have at X so it's got the show-off factor going for it too... Whatever the level though, the Saber kicks ass. It's true that you need good aim (headshots) to warrant using it over other weapons, but if you've got decent aim, you can't go wrong choosing the Saber.

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Badpanzer wrote...

Rubios wrote...

So even after the buff it only does 3 more DPS than a far lighter handgun?

What a potato :lol:


No its does 4 points more damage shot for shot...its DPS is LOWER than the Paladins by about 100 points.

The saber is a slower heavier paladin with a bigger magazine.


So still crap...
Atleast they are trying to buff it, like the missile launcher :whistle: