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[himegoto]

I think I have a good level Saber. But honestly what this weapon can do other weapons do it better.

For example I used to (only) find a use on my GE, but since I try out the GPS, I can not go back.
For headshot purposes, kishock or paladin, all with a shorter cooldown.

Only good thing about it is the sound it makes and more ammo. Ultimately, yeah, no point.

[himegoto]

Lucius Aelius wrote...

The Saber is my favorite weapon in the game, no contest. I use it on half my characters (usually with extended mag/AP mods), and mine is one of the five UR's I have at X so it's got the show-off factor going for it too... Whatever the level though, the Saber kicks ass. It's true that you need good aim (headshots) to warrant using it over other weapons, but if you've got decent aim, you can't go wrong choosing the Saber.

Its not bad. But there are far superior choices.

[Joryn01]

I like the Saber. It's a decent AR. I like using sniper rifles but also like grenades. Using the Saber with the scope and an AP lets me have a sniper like weapon while also being able to use the Warfighter Mod so I can have extra weapon damage and extra grenades. It's also my highest level UR at VIII.

[N7 Whiskey]

With the Saber I don't have to camp an ammo box and its way more accurate at range than Mattock or Harrier.

[SloanM]

I like the Saber. Feels like an exaggerated multi-shot sniper. Or at least that's how I use it on my GE.

[Ashen One]

Rubios wrote...
Staggering normal mobs is pointless when you can just one/two-shot them (that's the point if this kind of weapon).

Being able to OSK unshielded enemies doesn't mean it's always going to happen that way. Sometimes if I'm trying to kill a group of enemies before they spread out, I don't have time to aim for the head. In that case, it's good to stun enemies reliably, because they won't shoot back. In general the Saber is better for taking out groups due to the higher damage, and larger clip. The stagger effect also makes it better in CQC than a Paladin could ever hope to be.

Rubios wrote...
And you can't stagger bosses with it, atleast in platinum.

I've staggered many Brutes, and Geth Primes with the Saber. You don't know what you're talking about, and your comments in the thread lead me to believe you don't even use the weapon.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 01 septembre 2012 - 05:50 .

[Tzarakiel]

jstarpaul wrote...
Why use Saber?

Because if I scope my saber I get the 20 headshot medal before my 25 kills medal.

[thegamefreek78648]

Headshot
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Oh and

Headshot

Its a weapon that really shines for those players who are good at sharp shooting, that favor weapons like the Vindicator, Mattock and Crusader.

[darkpassenger2342]

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

[Ashen One]

Badpanzer wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.

Larger clip, more reliable stagger on basic enemies, can stagger bosses unlike the Paladin, more spare ammo, more damage, and using it doesn't restrict you from using a Scorpion, Acolyte, or Talon as a sidearm unlike the Paladin.

Actually the Saber is about 4 points stronger than the Paladin and its much weaker than the Talon..its not more damaging.
The Paladin has the same power shot for shot and had higher DPS due to a better rate of fire...Saber staggers and has a bigger mag but thats the only benefit I can see.

The Talon has ****** poor accuracy when fired out of cover, and a hipfire accuracy penalty. You're only doing full damage when all of the pellets hit, which is obviously less reliable than a precision weapon like the Saber. The Talon's effective range can't even come anywhere near the Saber's (why are you comparing a shotgun to a semi automatic sniper rifle anyway? that's essentially what they are, and it makes no sense because they fill completely different niches)

I already listed other advantages. If you're using a Paladin, you can't use a Talon/Scorpion/Acolyte which are the best sidearms in the game. You can use them with a Saber. Saber has more spare ammo, a larger magazine, and because of that you're going to kill more enemies before you have to reload. I'll drop 4-5 troopers using a Saber with much less effort than you would with a Paladin, because even if I miss a shot there's at least 7 more where that came from. If you miss a shot, your single clip damage drops by 33%.

That's the problem with DPS fail theorycrafting, it assumes perfect accuracy, among other thingas that are not representative of a real game scenario. This is a shooter, not a MMORPG.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:02 .

[darkpassenger2342]

ill never contest its potential, but i dont like the talon. I got it to X but its still just not fun to me.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:01 .

[darkpassenger2342]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

Paladin pistol is a lot lighter than the Saber and has similiar performance...Talon pistol ignores shield gate and is much more powerful.
Not sure what use there is for the saber.

Larger clip, more reliable stagger on basic enemies, can stagger bosses unlike the Paladin, more spare ammo, more damage, and using it doesn't restrict you from using a Scorpion, Acolyte, or Talon as a sidearm unlike the Paladin.

Actually the Saber is about 4 points stronger than the Paladin and its much weaker than the Talon..its not more damaging.
The Paladin has the same power shot for shot and had higher DPS due to a better rate of fire...Saber staggers and has a bigger mag but thats the only benefit I can see.

The Talon has ****** poor accuracy when fired out of cover, and a hipfire accuracy penalty. The Talon's effective range can't even come anywhere near the Saber's (why are you comparing a shotgun to a semi automatic sniper rifle anyway? that's essentially what they are, and it makes no sense because they fill completely different niches)

I already listed other advantages. If you're using a Paladin, you can't use a Talon/Scorpion/Acolyte which are the best sidearms in the game. You can use them with a Saber. Saber has more spare ammo, a larger magazine, and because of that you're going to kill more enemies before you have to reload. I'll drop 4-5 troopers using a Saber with much less effort than you would with a Paladin, because even if I miss a shot there's at least 7 more where that came from. If you miss a shot, your single clip damage drops by 33%.

That's the problem with DPS fail theorycrafting, it assumes perfect accuracy, among other thingas that are not representative of a real game scenario. This is a shooter, not a MMORPG.

 I have to agree, the saber has strengths people constantly overlook because of subjective dps.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:02 .

[HOWLER_77]

sabre is strictly for skilled gamers...

[Badpanzer]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

[darkpassenger2342]

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

yes but if one gun has extended barrel and the other doesnt then the saber will have higher "DPS"
i dont see many people using ap + eb on paladin, they either use extended clip or the (ack) headshot mod + armor piercing

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:07 .

[Badpanzer]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

yes but if one gun has extended barrel and the other doesnt then the saber will have higher "DPS"

Yes and if both guns have the EB then the stats remain the same
edit: the new headshot mod is available for the pistol as well and that really boosts the Paladins damage a lot.

Modifié par Badpanzer, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:09 .

[darkpassenger2342]

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

yes but if one gun has extended barrel and the other doesnt then the saber will have higher "DPS"

Yes and if both guns have the EB then the stats remain the same

most people use AP + extended clip or headshot though

[Ares Caesar]

Whats the point of the Saber? BOOM HEADSHOT!

www.youtube.com/watch
 
(since no one else posted it)

If 14 rounds of "BOOM HEADSHOT!" isnt reason enough, I dont know what is.

Modifié par Ares Caesar, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:16 .

[Badpanzer]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

yes but if one gun has extended barrel and the other doesnt then the saber will have higher "DPS"

Yes and if both guns have the EB then the stats remain the same

most people use AP + extended clip or headshot though

I use scope and headshot mod...way better imho.

[darkpassenger2342]

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

yes but if one gun has extended barrel and the other doesnt then the saber will have higher "DPS"

Yes and if both guns have the EB then the stats remain the same

most people use AP + extended clip or headshot though

I use scope and headshot mod...way better imho.

youre entitled to that, but i see no reason in a scope. personal preferance there.
only scoped guns i want are snipers.

[Ashen One]

The Paladin's higher RoF is negligible against everything that isn't a boss unit. If you're aiming for a headshot, you're not even firing at the maximum RoF to begin with, yet if you are firing at the maximum RoF to reach your theoretical maximum DPS the Saber wins because the Paladin doesn't even carry enough damage per clip to kill a single Cannibal on Gold.

... That is unless you're slowing down your RoF to get headshots.

[Badpanzer]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Badpanzer wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

for me, the most common mods on my paladin X are extended clip ( esp with asari, that 5 shpts instead of 3 is so nice) and armor piercing, yet on the saber, i always go ap + extended barrel.
i guess what im getting at is when people say the the paladin outclassess the saber they seem to forget this, the 3 shot paladin sucks, so it gives the saber a damage edge, assuming anyone uses the same mods as I do with these guns.

Without reload cancel the Saber and Paladin have the same DPS(approx),with reload cancel the Paladin is about 100 points better.
The Sabers bigger mag is counter balanced by its fire rate which is 25% slower than the Paladins.

Both guns are accurate and head shots are common,the saber also staggers pretty well which is really its only selling point.
I honestly believe the Saber needs a big buff because imo the Paladin pistol at least equals its performance and is far lighter.

yes but if one gun has extended barrel and the other doesnt then the saber will have higher "DPS"

Yes and if both guns have the EB then the stats remain the same

most people use AP + extended clip or headshot though

I use scope and headshot mod...way better imho.

youre entitled to that, but i see no reason in a scope. personal preferance there.
only scoped guns i want are snipers.

When I snipe I do it with a scoped pistol..they are better than the sniper rifles unless you are an infiltrator.
Scope is a personal thing but I like it on long maps.

[darkpassenger2342]

one personal pro of the saber i love is that its one of the absolute best guns to hipfire while retreating ( banshees).. you can walk backwards and dump a clip in a bosses face and really not even worry about aim. + that small stagger effect tends to kick in. Its also a greta gun for reload cancelling with powers if you have a medium cooldown power class that only needs around 120-150% RC ( quarian male for example).
you can get off 3 incinerate a clip without even losing fire rate.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:20 .

[darkpassenger2342]

Its not worth the effort to convince people that dont like it though...
either you like the saber or you dont..
the numbers cant tell you how this gun works.

[deject]

Nope2.1 wrote...

Headshots.

QFT. It's for headshots.