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#151
Freskione2

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kr3g wrote...

I would like to have fully automatic saber :)


Wouldn't that be fun B)

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ValorOfArms777 wrote...

Sniper21987 wrote...

first UR i got haven't look back. bad against bosses tho so i have the acolyte with it


Saber is pretty moderate agianst bosses/Mid bosses just make sure to peg the shots right again it's not the greatest though that I agree but it's not liek shooting a avenger and btw the paladin/BW can't help you much against the bosses either thsi gun has 8 in the hold so it can more easily deal with those threats

a Saber 100% accuracy in iron sight mode it also grants even more reliable stability in cover making it easily one of the greatest HS shooters a good shooter cna score 90% of his hits if the foe does not alter path with a evasion or suddenly moves before reaction tiem of trigger press which can happen this gun shows esspecialy powerfuluse as a Destroy weapon a Geth Hunter Mode weapon and Infiltrators using 1 extra power line will also enjoy thsi gun more than a normal sniper it provids a great deal of umph too causing a nice stagger nearly rivaling the deciples this gun can smash a head shot stagger even when their shields are up and massivly cause a join secondary finnish shot when this happens if they get to close to you you cna perform a body shot and I garantee about 60% of the time it fires a shot from this it will cause a staggger and can refile in 1 second momments permiting it to refire again

it allow the user to stay in spot longer than snipers cause of the larger spare basic lvl 1 holding 40 alone making it a great hold the line gun sur ehte reload is kinda slow but you wont need to reload too often unlike a singel shot up to a tri shot sniper it seems to be much superior in these regards comparison sniper wise and the recoil is very low it always return to point position right after cause of the refire rate and if not damn near close if you can fire it faster esspecialy behind cover it will hold the ground also screen shakes which effect scoping worse cause of the magnification instead it remains nearly stable in iron sight mode and you don't need a scope with it at all as fireing it withotu a scope gives you wider vision array and you can always knwo that the guns Iron sight fire is 100% and with a scope the hip fire is 100% on the mark it's crosshairs are lieing...it's far more accurate 


This reminds me of monkeys using typewriters.

P.S. Saber rocks.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

lol, another "DPS" theorycrafter that only sees numbers, and not actual in game performance.

The Harrier and Mattock cannot OSK an enemy with a headshot. The Saber has greater effective range than either, and staggers enemies a lot more frequently than the Harrier and Mattock. The Saber is capable of dealing more damage before you need to make a trip to the ammo crate.

Yes... Moar extra yes for da first line.

Personally, I don't like the gun though.

Modifié par landylan, 01 septembre 2012 - 11:59 .


#154
MrChris_CJ

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get out the Sabre, put it on a Destroyer, or even a regular soldier with Adrenaline Rush or Turian with Marksman

everything dies

the Harrier is a good weapon, good for being mobile, but its always about the ammo and you just can't place your shots as nicely

with the Sabre, you can just keep plugging away annihilating everything in front of you, armour piercing and extended barrel can absolutely destroy and if you fire from cover, oh that accuracy, oh those wonderful wonderful headshots...you can do that from across the map as well remember

let alone the fact that if you can actually aim its the best choice as far as assault rifles go (you will just be pinging heads everywhere) it also affords a huge degree of crowd control. In some situations its best to, for example, hit an enemy once, then hit the enemy next to him (instead of keep shooting the same enemy to finish him off) because of the stagger and damage you can force back multiple enemies and they won't even be able to shoot you and you can keep doing that for a long time (on a destroyer, you can have 12 bullets default mag)

I could use a paladin...but lol at the clip size, not at all good for sustained fire, let alone the fact that the crosshair recovery was awful the last time I used it, the Carnifex felt so much more flexible and I could get consistent headshots far more quickly and sustain that accuracy (which is a great feature of the Sabre)

The Sabre is a marksman rifle, so use it as such, it gives you the range, damage and consistency to keep dealing out death from pretty much all ranges; you are not meant to wildly fire it in all directions without a thought, think with every shot

you are meant to use it methodically and if you do, you will be richly rewarded

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Strict31 wrote...

xcrunr1647 wrote...

For all the reasons everyone else has said.

But mostly, because IT'S THE MOST BADASS SOUNDING WEAPON IN THE WHOLE F****** GAME, THAT'S WHY!!1!1!

Whoa. I blacked out there for a minute. What happened?


Well, you stripped down to your britches and started making these weird clank-bang noises while waving your...ah..."mass accelerator" around, daring Bioware to, and I quote, "NERF THIS, B*TCHES!"

And then, after punching three babies, you simply collapsed. It was glorious.

Anastasia had to give you mouth-to-mouth.


Ahaha, this made my morning.

Also...

@darkpassenger: I rarely endorse acting as you were in this thread...but in this case he deserved it. Please continue. It is amusing. I am amused. 

@Rubios: You are being exceptionally ignorant, obtuse, take your pick of any such adjectives mentioned in this thread. As Ashen already said (that seems to happen a lot to me), ... I just blanked and forgot what I was going to say. Whatever, everything Ashen said. Simply using a dps spreadsheet takes the entire situation out of context...which makes it damn near worthless. 

:mellow:

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How do people say it isn't good against bosses?...

Do they not spec for weapon damage or something?

When I use it on Platinum I take 1-2 bars off Atlas's, Primes, and Banshees no matter what. That's good enough for me.

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saber might have a lower damage per second than the mattock (if you like straining your finger) and the harrier, but in terms of damage per SHOT, saber hands down. too bad i only have a saber I D:

you want math? harrier I 106 mattock I 103 saber I 427
https://docs.google....put=html&gid=10

#158
xcrunr1647

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This thread reminded me that I need to play a few games with my Saber, improve my head-popping skills =)

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3 reasons.
1. It is called "Big Iron"
2. Head Shots that make the things get dead
3. When I play with a QMI I can get 3 shots off before breaking cloak.

It makes me smile in soooo many ways.

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I never used it until a friend convinced me to try it on my Destroyer a few weeks ago. It really helped me work on improving my aim vice using auto weapons. There was a learning curve, but once I got better with it it became my favorite, especially with the Destroyer spec'd for ROF. If the enemy gets in mid to close range, you can hip fire accurately and quickly due to the reduced recoil and then switch to a better close range weapon when you have some breathing room.

I can see why people don't like it because I didn't either at first, but once you practice with and get to know the weapon, it's quite good and a nice change of pace from running the same load out every time.

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Why? BECAUSE I'M BATMAN!!!!

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LockT17 wrote...

I never used it until a friend convinced me to try it on my Destroyer a few weeks ago. It really helped me work on improving my aim vice using auto weapons. There was a learning curve, but once I got better with it it became my favorite, especially with the Destroyer spec'd for ROF. If the enemy gets in mid to close range, you can hip fire accurately and quickly due to the reduced recoil and then switch to a better close range weapon when you have some breathing room.

I can see why people don't like it because I didn't either at first, but once you practice with and get to know the weapon, it's quite good and a nice change of pace from running the same load out every time.


This ^, this is another factor that isn't in the spreadsheet.  You can have a weapon with the highest DPS but not know how to use it.  Being comfortable with a weapon makes a huge difference.  Look at the Wraith for example, a lot of folks don't like it.  But I love it, I found the perfect combination with it.  I am so comfortable with it that when I use another weapon, it feels ..... awkward.  Mostly with my Batarian Soldier.

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Saber's great for a Salarian Infiltrator if you take the "use power" evolution of TC.

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The Paladin is far lighter, hasnt any recoil unlike the Saber and better weapon modifications.

Someone mentioned headshots. The Saber doesnt get the Cranier system.

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tonnactus wrote...

The Paladin is far lighter, hasnt any recoil unlike the Saber and better weapon modifications.

Someone mentioned headshots. The Saber doesnt get the Cranier system.


It doesn't need it, because 2 headshots will still kill an enemy.

Terrible weapon mod.

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himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...


I dont know what my thread about the human sentinel has to do with you being hostile here.

That guy didnt call the saber bs from what I see. He pointed out you cannot argue with the real numbers between the weapons. The DPS stats is a set number, it's a fact. Not bs.
Like I said, DPS numbers and then the game experience build on that.
And please show some class.



i dunno dude....DPS charts and hocus-pocus math.....

there are some weapons that have much higher dps on paper...dont FEEL like they are very good.

the saber, however, is a good weapon....not the greatest....but it feels like a beast. And preception is 9/10 the truth! I think....therefore it is!!!  IMMA ROCK THE SABER.....and rule the skool! WOOOOOO



MATH BE DAMNED!!!


Yeah. Kishock and Graal for example are silly against armors. 
DPS wise I feel the saber (7 or 8) outdamages my paladin X. At the cost of longer cooldowns however.
But we still need some guidelines to judge the weapons and the DPS chart is the basis of that.

Saber is a good weapon. Hell Paladin too. But I dont cannot find a use them on any characters nowadays.. There's always other weapons that do the job better.



CANT STAND the kishock and Graal.   THE WIND up is a pain....and the round drop....very dissatisfying imho. RATE of fire stinks. those weapons are heavy too!  no way i would take them over a Saber.


and if you have to base your taste of weapons off of some CHART......you my friend need to remove the plug from the wall and reset your bios....i smell a ROBOT!

Modifié par corporal doody, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:44 .


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The Saber is...well.... Awesome. With a capital A. The sound and punch that thing has, it's like god (take your pick which one) is slapping your face with that special something.

Mattock is great and all. I love it too. Good at most any range (I rock the EM and AP mods on it). But you have to have Diablo trained trigger finger for it. The Harrier I haven't gotten so I can't say anything about it, but it what I have read, it's a lazy man's mattock.
Saber is more like a designated marksman rifle (DMR) then an assault rifle. It bridges the gap in it's own way. It's viable in CQB (but not great) and can hold it's own at sniper range. But it can't hold a candle to weapons specialized for those roles.

On an off-topic node, I found this thread by forum search, and the previous topic I read (3 months old) where there was a complaint about the Saber's fire rate being more closer to a bolt action then a semi auto. I found that funny because if you could fire the damn thing faster, it'd be kinda OP. And the sound tells me that it's an "automatic bolt action". If that makes any sense.

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Freskione2 wrote...

kr3g wrote...

I would like to have fully automatic saber :)


Wouldn't that be fun B)

It would take the Hurricane's place.
Don't negate the recoil for 2 seconds and you get to say what clouds look like

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Saber doesn't need the headshot mod because it can almost 1 shot a rocket trooper through his shields when equipped with gear and consumables.

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Maeson wrote...

Saber is more like a designated marksman rifle (DMR) then an assault rifle. It bridges the gap in it's own way. It's viable in CQB (but not great) and can hold it's own at sniper range. But it can't hold a candle to weapons specialized for those roles.


The Saber s**** on the Black Widow and Valiant unless you're an Infiltrator using the Tac Cloak with the rank 6 sniper rifle damage evolution.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

Dbohr wrote...

Ahh, the Saber. One of, if not the, very first UR I got. And there it sat at lvl 1, all these long months...

I love it, though.


The Saber was the first UR I unlocked too...

I thought I was so badass with my Turian Sentinel and Saber I. :innocent:


I wish I had your luck. Been playing since day one and just got it yesterday.

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I think this thread made people want to go out and test it, I'm seeing a flux on Xbox.

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Gravisanimi wrote...

I think this thread made people want to go out and test it, I'm seeing a flux on Xbox.

That is exactly what I am doing at this moment.
As soon as i find a game.

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I use it on the Turian Soldier and on infiltrators... With marksman it becomes a good boss killer even on platinum.