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[Conniving_Eagle]

xsdob wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Why aren't I given the option to tell all the deadra to go **** themselves? even if I'm an argonian, the race who kicked their assess and managed to invade oblivion?

Why can't I tell the Catalyst to go **** himself without paying for it? Even If I have insanely high EMS and every war asset in the game?

[MerchantGOL]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Why aren't I given the option to tell all the deadra to go **** themselves? even if I'm an argonian, the race who kicked their assess and managed to invade oblivion?

Why can't I tell the Catalyst to go **** himself without paying for it? Even If I have insanely high EMS and every war asset in the game?

cause a single reaper can waste an entire fleet

[Andy the Black]

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

One of the best things about The Elder Scrolls is the construction sets and the mod community. Unfortunately not everyone can afford a gaming rig. And it doesn't say alot about a game when someone has to download community made mods to be happy with the content.

[xsdob]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Why aren't I given the option to tell all the deadra to go **** themselves? even if I'm an argonian, the race who kicked their assess and managed to invade oblivion?

Why can't I tell the Catalyst to go **** himself without paying for it? Even If I have insanely high EMS and every war asset in the game?

I don't know, skyrim is suppose to be a massive non-liner story, so why does it and mass effect 3 have this same problem?

[Andy the Black]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Why aren't I given the option to tell all the deadra to go **** themselves? even if I'm an argonian, the race who kicked their assess and managed to invade oblivion?

Why can't I tell the Catalyst to go **** himself without paying for it? Even If I have insanely high EMS and every war asset in the game?

You can. The EC is free dude.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 01 septembre 2012 - 06:59 .

[Meltemph]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Do you mind if i challege you on your first statement. Do you realize that in the mass effect series you are carrying variables over 2 full games? Imagine how complex the system gets. It is like a large upside tree 

>.>

As a lore nut of the Elder Scrolls... Not by a long shot is ME3 mroe complex then even skyrim.  If you delve deep into the lore(starting with atleast morrowind) the amount of complexities that is hidden in Skyrim is pretty significant.  It just requires you to read a poop ton of books and a lot of random quests.  But ya, Elder Scroll lore is incredibly complex.

Modifié par Meltemph, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:01 .

[Hey]

The has got me thinking about how fun the Daedric prince quests were. I love it when Meridia lifts me high above Skyrim to ask for my help. Or when Namira has me dine on a priest of Arkay. Just an absolute delight.

[Meltemph]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Do you mind if i challege you on your first statement. Do you realize that in the mass effect series you are carrying variables over 2 full games? Imagine how complex the system gets. It is like a large upside tree 

>.>

As a lore nut of the Elder Scrolls... Not by a long shot is ME3 mroe complex then even skyrim.  If you delve deep into the lore(starting with atleast morrowind) the amount of complexities that is hidden in Skyrim is pretty significant.  It just requires you to real a poop ton of books and a lot of random quests.  But ya, Elder Scroll lore is incredibly complex.

Content in the game's lore  =/= Compexity when designing the game

But even the meh main plot of Skyrim has a lot of complexities in it and actually references some very old books in the Elder Scroll series.  Also, I would think a massive open world like that, from a technical standpoint would be a pretty complex undertaking.  However, now I'm not sure what you exactly mean by "complexity when designing the game".

Modifié par Meltemph, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:03 .

[Omega2079]

WindfishDude wrote...

At no cost, not even adveticed as 'free DLC' but just released in a patch.

It's like 'Hey, we heard you guys wanted mounted combat in our games. Here's a patch that fixes that. Now you can fight on horseback.'

Does Bioware and EA look at this example, look at their piles of money and then just burst laughing?

They don't give eveything away for no charge, and when they do it, it's not out of pure philanthropy. They're managing
their position in a market.

[Andy the Black]

Meltemph wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Do you mind if i challege you on your first statement. Do you realize that in the mass effect series you are carrying variables over 2 full games? Imagine how complex the system gets. It is like a large upside tree 

>.>

As a lore nut of the Elder Scrolls... Not by a long shot is ME3 mroe complex then even skyrim.  If you delve deep into the lore(starting with atleast morrowind) the amount of complexities that is hidden in Skyrim is pretty significant.  It just requires you to real a poop ton of books and a lot of random quests.  But ya, Elder Scroll lore is incredibly complex.

But the lore is always the same. Nothing I did in Arena affects the lore in Daggerfall, like wise nothing I did in Daggerfall affects the lore in Morrwind, and so on. Yet two people could have very different story arcs going through Mass 1, 2, and 3.

[Conniving_Eagle]

I see what you did thar Andy.

[MerchantGOL]

Andy the Black wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Do you mind if i challege you on your first statement. Do you realize that in the mass effect series you are carrying variables over 2 full games? Imagine how complex the system gets. It is like a large upside tree 

>.>

As a lore nut of the Elder Scrolls... Not by a long shot is ME3 mroe complex then even skyrim.  If you delve deep into the lore(starting with atleast morrowind) the amount of complexities that is hidden in Skyrim is pretty significant.  It just requires you to real a poop ton of books and a lot of random quests.  But ya, Elder Scroll lore is incredibly complex.

But the lore is always the same. Nothing I did in Arena affects the lore in Daggerfall, like wise nothing I did in Daggerfall affects the lore in Morrwind, and so on. Yet two people could have very different story arcs going through Mass 1, 2, and 3.

its sad but Imperials vs Stormcloaks is such  a menaingless conflict that  they wont even ahve to adress it in the next  game

[Conniving_Eagle]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Why aren't I given the option to tell all the deadra to go **** themselves? even if I'm an argonian, the race who kicked their assess and managed to invade oblivion?

Why can't I tell the Catalyst to go **** himself without paying for it? Even If I have insanely high EMS and every war asset in the game?

Because a Reaper supported by a Geth armada can destroy 8 cruisers in a surprise attack.

Fixed.

[corporal doody]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

RETAKE THIS THREAD!!


-gonna use a children's charity called Whiterun Shelter for the Sick and Infirm to bring notice of my disgust with this thread and demand a better OP but say thats not why i did what i did!!
- gonna send all you folks cupcakes with arrows in them!!
-gonna join up with a ton of upset folk and spew constant hate and discontent on this forum....!!
- gonna demand all threads be free!
-gonna be mad when i have to pay for a thread!

I'd say charity is a good thing, no matter the motivation.

Also, your last two points are invalid. There were polls taken a while back which indicated people would rather pay for proper content. Alas, we got free sprinkles on the turd.

no doubt there were polls. Im sure if i participated i would have said the same thing...HOWEVER....the problem with polls...especially on the BSN...is the BIAS.

and people raging for paying for the threads they think they should get for free AND being MAD when they have to pay for threads that they WANTED to pay for...well...they gonna rage whether they got what they wanted or not.

i dunno fickle people massed together doing fickle things...all in the name of threads.

POST!!
POST, AYE AYE SIR!!

[Han Shot First]

Besides the lore not being shaped in any way by your player character, the lore for Elder Scrolls is also highly overrated. Honestly half of it reads like bad fanfiction.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:11 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

Bioware's own polls are also biased.

[Conniving_Eagle]

This has been turned into a battle of the elitists. How enjoyable.

[corporal doody]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Bioware's own polls are also biased.

ayup. 

[Meltemph]

But the lore is always the same. Nothing I did in Arena affects the lore in Daggerfall, like wise nothing I did in Daggerfall affects the lore in Morrwind, and so on. Yet two people could have very different story arcs going through Mass 1, 2, and 3.

That has much more to do with how they tell the stories in these games. Also, I would say Daggerfall is truely the place to start getting into all the lore of the game. However, Hooding, Neverine, CoC, and possible even the dragonborn do have a lasting impact in the world. The difference is Elder Scroll is very protective of the lore of their world, so they dont let the Hero of the scrolls shape the history of Nirn, atleast not in a forceful way via the game.

However what you do does impact the other elder scrolls, just not in an obvious way.

ME has to sacrifice its entire lore structure to adhere to the idea of "choice matters" and even then it is quite restricted. Honestly though, I dont really wana get into a comparison between the 2, because they are incredibly different games in terms of how the stories are told. Just if you are talking abotu the complexites in the games, that get carried over from game to game... The elder scrolls has quite a lot of carry over, it just isnt as obvious and is more catered to the lore nuts of the series.

I guess none of what I am saying really matters though. I dont play ME3 for near the same reason I play the ES games.

[Andy the Black]

MerchantGOL wrote...

Andy the Black wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Do you mind if i challege you on your first statement. Do you realize that in the mass effect series you are carrying variables over 2 full games? Imagine how complex the system gets. It is like a large upside tree 

>.>

As a lore nut of the Elder Scrolls... Not by a long shot is ME3 mroe complex then even skyrim.  If you delve deep into the lore(starting with atleast morrowind) the amount of complexities that is hidden in Skyrim is pretty significant.  It just requires you to real a poop ton of books and a lot of random quests.  But ya, Elder Scroll lore is incredibly complex.

But the lore is always the same. Nothing I did in Arena affects the lore in Daggerfall, like wise nothing I did in Daggerfall affects the lore in Morrwind, and so on. Yet two people could have very different story arcs going through Mass 1, 2, and 3.

its sad but Imperials vs Stormcloaks is such  a menaingless conflict that  they wont even ahve to adress it in the next  game

They'll probably just put the "It was so long ago no one can remember" trick, or just have the Aldmeri Dominion take over Skyrim by the next game so it's doesn't really matter who won.

Modifié par Andy the Black, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:14 .

[MerchantGOL]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Why aren't I given the option to tell all the deadra to go **** themselves? even if I'm an argonian, the race who kicked their assess and managed to invade oblivion?

Why can't I tell the Catalyst to go **** himself without paying for it? Even If I have insanely high EMS and every war asset in the game?

Because a Reaper supported by a Geth armada can destroy 8 cruisers in a surprise attack.

Fixed.

maybe u missed th epart where  many many ships where  unloading on him and he was giving a flying husks ass about it

[JBPBRC]

FemaleMageFan wrote...

Bfler wrote...

I would say Skyrim is a little bit more complex than the linear corridor shooter ME3. So bugs are more forgivable in Skyrim.

And for people who aren't pleased with content, there is a something called Skyrim Nexus where you can find hundreds of mods. Skyrim is a game where you profit from buying the PC version.

Do you mind if i challege you on your first statement. Do you realize that in the mass effect series you are carrying variables over 2 full games? Imagine how complex the system gets. It is like a large upside tree 

I'd find this statement more credible if Bioware had lived up to making wildly divergent end scenarios with said variables. Like the Rachni. Instead, the most complexity we get is Tuchanka and Conrad Verner's little miniquest. Rannoch follows behind somewhere in there.

[Meltemph]

its sad but Imperials vs Stormcloaks is such a menaingless conflict that they wont even ahve to adress it in the next game

What? The conflict is giving rise to the encounter with the AD, also it is possible that Tulius, Dragonborn, and Ulfric could possibly be the next "manteling" of Talos. There is a lot in play with the Stormcloacks and the Imperials.

They'll probably just put the "It was so long ago no one can remember" trick, or just have the Aldmeri Dominion take over Skyrim by the next game so it's doesn't really matter who won.

Wat?  The whole point of the AD is to wipe out man, so then can finally leave mundus.  They are trying to wipe out Talos completely from worship to try and get rid of Lorkhan so man can never have existed.  Dude, there is no way they(Bethesda) are going to leave the AD alone.

Modifié par Meltemph, 01 septembre 2012 - 07:18 .