CptData wrote...
"You'll be my Skipper, always ..." I missed that line
That sounds a little subservient, kinda
What would be awesome would be the other way around…
Does it bother you that your LI still calls you "Shepard"?
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 11:11
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That sounds a little subservient, kinda
What would be awesome would be the other way around…
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 11:17
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lillitheris wrote...
CptData wrote...
"You'll be my Skipper, always ..." I missed that line
That sounds a little subservient, kinda
Shepard: "I'll be your Skipper, always ..."
Ashley: You better come back and sail my boat, Skipper!"
Better?
I loved the flirty undertone in most mid/late conversations between Ash and Shepard in ME1. Their convos don't feel like that in ME3 anymore.
Don't get me wrong: in that relationship, it's Ashley who's in charge.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 11:22
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I think Chakwas puts up a good argument for calling Shep, Shepard.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 11:28
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GottvonHoff wrote...
I mean, even at the slightest?
It's like having your boyfriend/girlfriend still call you by your family name, despite all you've been through together. Or having known you for years.
It's a limitation of the game's design or script, I know. But at least James frequently calls you Loco/Lola.
This is actually very common. It depends on how did they meet, and what name got stuck to what person
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:11
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lillitheris wrote...
That’s not a solution, that’s a restriction.
It is not a restriction, it is an option. Nickname or name you want for your character may be there. If it's not, some acceptable variant could be there. Even if not, voicesamples are there, so if you determined enough, you can combine existing words into one you want.
lillitheris wrote...
My Shepards are named Eevy and Auska, not Eve and Alice.
What the names are those?
Play ADnD much?
Regardless, mine's named Krzysztof. Seen that often? I doubt, our slavic names usually murdered by western mispronunciation. Even ones not as long as Dzierzynski or Krzyzanowski... Now I understand what those aliens from SW or Lilihierax feels.
But I digress. I wouldn't accept Chris as replacement for Krzysztof, but among many nicknames available in abovementioned Dirt 2 I've found one I liked. So the more, the merrier.
lillitheris wrote...
I think you’re looking at it wrong; I’m sure that even in your culture, there are nicknames, no?
Not sure if it's my amnesia or not, but I though I mentioned nicknames. Twice. No?
lillitheris wrote...
Shepard is a nickname.
Shepard is surname. Shepard is nickname to an acquaintance of mine whose surname could be roughly translated on English as "Shepard" (or Shepherd). In reverse, among us we refer to Shepard using that acquaintance's surname.
lillitheris wrote...
I personally know at least 5 people—from 3 separate national origins—who generally go by their last names (or shortened versions thereof). One’s wife even calls him that.
I am of several separate national origins (my grandparent are, directly).
So I had sort of "first hand" access to few different nationalities. Of course, those are small groups and does not represent whole nations, but see my first post: none use surname among family, unless looking for conflict (or already in one), to stress situations like "your family doing it wrong, mine doing it right". Even if couple share same surname, thus none of spouses changed their after marriage, mentioning "your" part of family generally used only in such situations. Or as humorous, to some degree of approval, sort of "you make a good addition to our family" or "you did it our family way". Or, still as humorous, but way to ironically reprimand your loved one for doing something wrong. Right because surname is cold official referral and does not represent warm&fuzzy family and friends relations.
As for shortened versions of surnames, that a) not present in ME (IIRC only Kasumi called Shepard "Shep"),
it is a "nicknamized" form we deprived to choose from or of. I mean Kasumi will call Shepard that way and she is one and only who will. Give her huge screentime...Plus in our language (or languages, since I'm sort of racial mutt) not all surnames could be shortened into something "cute". Some, if misspelled (especially if on purpose) or shortened could be quite offensive. Not always, of course, I know one guy whose surname Lewandowski and usually it is shortened to Lew. He swore he'll name his son Lew, just for fun sake. Alas, much to his disappointment he got daughters.
lillitheris wrote...
It’s like a little inside joke between Shepard and the LI.
Aha. And also between each and everyone else, including supposedly best friend(s), including those who is/are out of Alliance chain of command (to which some Alliance personnel doesn't pay much attention), so they don't give a damn to Alliance regulations.
Even in Star Wars: Republic Commando each character had two, if not three "names". That's 2005 shooter. About clones.
lillitheris wrote...
Plus you have those offscreen moments…
Oh, I get that... All logic in ME is off-screen moments! Now speculate about that!
Don't see that - don't shoot at that. Or, apparently more popular variant: "pics, or never happened".
I mean I have no data on off-screen events, and relying on it it's like accepting all those piles of steaming turd they poured all over us "oh, they explained that off-screen". If I haven't seen that (at least in read form) - I consider that non-existent.
Because it is bothers me. I guess thread is about that, no? Or my English is worse than I thought and this thread is absolutely about another concern?
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:46
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[quote]Rudy Lis wrote...
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
That’s not a solution, that’s a restriction. [/quote]
It is not a restriction, it is an option. Nickname or name you want for your character may be there. If it's not, some acceptable variant could be there. Even if not, voicesamples are there, so if you determined enough, you can combine existing words into one you want. [/quote]
Ah, a nickname could be an option—though I’d still want it used sparingly, and each NPC should have a different one. Plus I’m pretty sure it’d sound terrible in the actual VA if the entire line wasn’t spoken at once.
And, of course, maybe it isn’t available.
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
My Shepards are named Eevy and Auska, not Eve and Alice. [/quote]
What the names are those? Play ADnD much?[/quote]
D&D, AD&D, 3rd…
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
Shepard is a nickname. [/quote]
Shepard is surname. Shepard is nickname to an acquaintance of mine whose surname could be roughly translated on English as "Shepard" (or Shepherd). In reverse, among us we refer to Shepard using that acquaintance's surname. [/quote]
No, Shepard is a nickname (which is to say, a name which is not the person’s real name but is used as such in some situations).
Yes, it’s also the surname—but you can’t argue that someone’s nickname shouldn’t be ‘Champ’ because that word means something.
Regardless of how it comes to be, a nickname is a nickname.
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
I personally know at least 5 people—from 3 separate national origins—who generally go by their last names (or shortened versions thereof). One’s wife even calls him that.[/quote]
I am of several separate national origins (my grandparent are, directly).
So I had sort of "first hand" access to few different nationalities. Of course, those are small groups and does not represent whole nations, but see my first post: none use surname among family, unless looking for conflict (or already in one), to stress situations like "your family doing it wrong, mine doing it right". [/quote]
…Etc. Just take it on faith. It’s perfectly ordinary for a person to be called by their surname if that is the nickname they’ve somehow gained.
I get that you may have some hang-ups about it, but it’s not strange in itself—especially in the military.
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
It’s like a little inside joke between Shepard and the LI. [/quote]
Aha. And also between each and everyone else, including supposedly best friend(s), including those who is/are out of Alliance chain of command (to which some Alliance personnel doesn't pay much attention), so they don't give a damn to Alliance regulations.[/quote]
Everyone else is less familiar, by definition. I would not and do not bat an eye at everyone else saying Shepard.
The only thing that is somewhat unusual is the LI also using Shepard. Unusual, but not in any way inconceivable. Especially if it’s their private little thing.
[quote]Even in Star Wars: Republic Commando each character had two, if not three "names". That's 2005 shooter. About clones. [/quote]
OK?
[quote]Because it is bothers me. I guess thread is about that, no? Or my English is worse than I thought and this thread is absolutely about another concern?[/quote]
It clearly does bother you. I’m explaining that there’s nothing terribly strange about it intrinsically. You can then, armed with this possibly new information, possibly reduce your stress about the issue—or not. That’s up to you.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
That’s not a solution, that’s a restriction. [/quote]
It is not a restriction, it is an option. Nickname or name you want for your character may be there. If it's not, some acceptable variant could be there. Even if not, voicesamples are there, so if you determined enough, you can combine existing words into one you want. [/quote]
Ah, a nickname could be an option—though I’d still want it used sparingly, and each NPC should have a different one. Plus I’m pretty sure it’d sound terrible in the actual VA if the entire line wasn’t spoken at once.
And, of course, maybe it isn’t available.
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
My Shepards are named Eevy and Auska, not Eve and Alice. [/quote]
What the names are those?
Play ADnD much?[/quote]D&D, AD&D, 3rd…
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
Shepard is a nickname. [/quote]
Shepard is surname. Shepard is nickname to an acquaintance of mine whose surname could be roughly translated on English as "Shepard" (or Shepherd). In reverse, among us we refer to Shepard using that acquaintance's surname. [/quote]
No, Shepard is a nickname (which is to say, a name which is not the person’s real name but is used as such in some situations).
Yes, it’s also the surname—but you can’t argue that someone’s nickname shouldn’t be ‘Champ’ because that word means something.
Regardless of how it comes to be, a nickname is a nickname.
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
I personally know at least 5 people—from 3 separate national origins—who generally go by their last names (or shortened versions thereof). One’s wife even calls him that.[/quote]
I am of several separate national origins (my grandparent are, directly).
So I had sort of "first hand" access to few different nationalities. Of course, those are small groups and does not represent whole nations, but see my first post: none use surname among family, unless looking for conflict (or already in one), to stress situations like "your family doing it wrong, mine doing it right". [/quote]
…Etc. Just take it on faith. It’s perfectly ordinary for a person to be called by their surname if that is the nickname they’ve somehow gained.
I get that you may have some hang-ups about it, but it’s not strange in itself—especially in the military.
[quote][quote]lillitheris wrote...
It’s like a little inside joke between Shepard and the LI. [/quote]
Aha. And also between each and everyone else, including supposedly best friend(s), including those who is/are out of Alliance chain of command (to which some Alliance personnel doesn't pay much attention), so they don't give a damn to Alliance regulations.[/quote]
Everyone else is less familiar, by definition. I would not and do not bat an eye at everyone else saying Shepard.
The only thing that is somewhat unusual is the LI also using Shepard. Unusual, but not in any way inconceivable. Especially if it’s their private little thing.
[quote]Even in Star Wars: Republic Commando each character had two, if not three "names". That's 2005 shooter. About clones. [/quote]
OK?
[quote]Because it is bothers me. I guess thread is about that, no? Or my English is worse than I thought and this thread is absolutely about another concern?[/quote]
It clearly does bother you. I’m explaining that there’s nothing terribly strange about it intrinsically. You can then, armed with this possibly new information, possibly reduce your stress about the issue—or not. That’s up to you.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 02:50
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lillitheris wrote...
No, Shepard is a nickname (which is to say, a name which is not the person’s real name but is used as such in some situations).
Yes, it’s also the surname—but you can’t argue that someone’s nickname shouldn’t be ‘Champ’ because that word means something.
Regardless of how it comes to be, a nickname is a nickname.
Shepard's literal, canon (IE unchangeable) last name is "Shepard". If a nickname is a name that is not a person's real name, how is "Shepard" a nickname?
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:04
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o Ventus wrote...
lillitheris wrote...
No, Shepard is a nickname (which is to say, a name which is not the person’s real name but is used as such in some situations).
Yes, it’s also the surname—but you can’t argue that someone’s nickname shouldn’t be ‘Champ’ because that word means something.
Regardless of how it comes to be, a nickname is a nickname.
Shepard's literal, canon (IE unchangeable) last name is "Shepard". If a nickname is a name that is not a person's real name, how is "Shepard" a nickname?
Poor phrasing; let’s say ‘component of real name appropriate to the situation’, which is to say whatever Shepard’s first name is. Obviously there’s no issue using Shepard when the last name is appropriate anyway.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:08
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lillitheris wrote...
Poor phrasing; let’s say ‘component of real name appropriate to the situation’, which is to say whatever Shepard’s first name is. Obviously there’s no issue using Shepard when the last name is appropriate anyway.
I still don't see how this makes "Shepard" a nickname. If anything, it's the opposite. Nicknames tend to be either shortened versions of someone's real name (Kasumi calls you "Shep"), or other words with a correlation to a trait in relation to that person (James calls you "Loco").
But "Shepard" is just Shepard's name.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:11
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Never Bothered me, because I cannon it that none of my Shepard's like their first names so, they perfure to be called "Shepard"
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:13
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^Give him/her a better name. 
I kid.
I kid.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:13
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Never bothered me, because they also say my first name in game...
"Commander"
"Commander"
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:14
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Had Miranda called him Thomas we might have had some issues.
Or worse yet Tommy.
****.
Or worse yet Tommy.
****.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:18
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No it doesn't.
He's bigger than a first name.
He's Commander Shepard.
Even when they're married, she will rarely call him John.
He's bigger than a first name.
He's Commander Shepard.
Even when they're married, she will rarely call him John.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:19
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Considering the nameplate in the ending, I am glad I was not called by the canon forename "Commander" the whole time^^
No, really: I don't see any easier/better option than let everyone call him/her Shepard when every line is voiced.
No, really: I don't see any easier/better option than let everyone call him/her Shepard when every line is voiced.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:21
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Anyway, I headcanon it more that, since Miranda has always called him "Shepard" while on and off duty, it just sort of stuck.
It would be a little odd if Miranda had ben calling him "Shepard" for a year, then suddenly started calling him "John".
It would be a little odd if Miranda had ben calling him "Shepard" for a year, then suddenly started calling him "John".
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:44
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o Ventus wrote...
Anyway, I headcanon it more that, since Miranda has always called him "Shepard" while on and off duty, it just sort of stuck.
…And that is, then, a nickname. English doesn’t really have a better term for it, unfortunately. Miranda isn’t calling him by his last name, she’s calling him Shepard, if you see what I’m saying? She doesn’t think of it as his last name.
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[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Ah, a nickname could be an option—though I’d still want it used sparingly, and each NPC should have a different one.[/quote]
Why different one? Not everyone have nickname, plus, unlike Shepard, they have names and names used extensively. How often Garrus was called by his surname? Liara? Tali?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Plus I’m pretty sure it’d sound terrible in the actual VA if the entire line wasn’t spoken at once.[/quote]
It's not 100% proof either.
Depends on language, actually. If language is complicated enough and words morphs, during say declension, that will pose a problem. For English? Barely. ArmA VO is based on array or words, used to construct phrases (orders, spotting reports, etc). It sounds uneven, I admit, but there is difference between construction phrase like "unit, perform this action at that target" or "unit, move to that object at that direction at this distance" and simply replacing "Shepard" with several intonations - general, business, cold, warm, caring, ironic.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
And, of course, maybe it isn’t available.[/quote]
And it doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
Otherwise it's just defeatism approach. Or saving memory budget.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
D&D, AD&D, 3rd…[/quote]
Not 4th?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
No, Shepard is a nickname (which is to say, a name which is not the person’s real name but is used as such in some situations).[/quote]
If this is his "alias" and in reality he is, say, "Hauptmann Hermann Schnauber", fine, but how your version came up? Where you get this? Just to find some explanation for situation?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Yes, it’s also the surname—but you can’t argue that someone’s nickname shouldn’t be ‘Champ’ because that word means something.[/quote]
Foreigner is lost here.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Regardless of how it comes to be, a nickname is a nickname.[/quote]
I won't argue with apparently "bearer of the tongue", but aren't nicknames accentuated somehow? Especially if they used in official referrals and documents. Somehow I doubt Council, Udina and many others would call Shepard by his nickname, if Shepard is nickname and not surname.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
…Etc. Just take it on faith. It’s perfectly ordinary for a person to be called by their surname if that is the nickname they’ve somehow gained. [/quote]
"Surname is the nickname they get"?
So if some guy write home huge opuses in his mails home he could be called "Tolstoy" and that "surname turned nickname"?
Okay, but who, outside of his close "entourage" would know that? Or you suggest this "surname turned nickname" is so sticky so it is used even in official paperwork?
Any IRL examples? I guess my curiosity won't calm down by itself now.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
I get that you may have some hang-ups about it, but it’s not strange in itself—especially in the military. [/quote]
Yeah, I know, I was there. That's why I'm surprised - nicknames are nicknames, they are for unofficial usage among "your kind". Any official referral, especially paperwork - rank, surname (plus initials or full name+ patronym), sometimes personal (serial) number. No nicknames.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Everyone else is less familiar, by definition.[/quote]
Even your best friend?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
I would not and do not bat an eye at everyone else saying Shepard.
The only thing that is somewhat unusual is the LI also using Shepard. Unusual, but not in any way inconceivable.[/quote]
It is unusual (for me, of course) if even friends refer you by your surname and not name. Or nickname, since you brought them.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Especially if it’s their private little thing.[/quote]
*activating drama mode* "More of those miserable auto-dialogues?"
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
OK?[/quote]
If clones of one person have different nicknames among themselves, it look very odd for me when different persons doesn't have anything but just one surname for one particular character. And rank, of course.
Somewhat I miss those days when PC was silent and you can call him as you wish.
Oh, how could I forgot? *deactivating drama mode".
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
It clearly does bother you. I’m explaining that there’s nothing terribly strange about it intrinsically. You can then, armed with this possibly new information, possibly reduce your stress about the issue—or not. That’s up to you.
[/quote]
Good jab. I like. /high5
But I guess I'll stay where I am - I like when mosquitos explodes when they think I'm good place for dinner.
Ah, a nickname could be an option—though I’d still want it used sparingly, and each NPC should have a different one.[/quote]
Why different one? Not everyone have nickname, plus, unlike Shepard, they have names and names used extensively. How often Garrus was called by his surname? Liara? Tali?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Plus I’m pretty sure it’d sound terrible in the actual VA if the entire line wasn’t spoken at once.[/quote]
It's not 100% proof either.
Depends on language, actually. If language is complicated enough and words morphs, during say declension, that will pose a problem. For English? Barely. ArmA VO is based on array or words, used to construct phrases (orders, spotting reports, etc). It sounds uneven, I admit, but there is difference between construction phrase like "unit, perform this action at that target" or "unit, move to that object at that direction at this distance" and simply replacing "Shepard" with several intonations - general, business, cold, warm, caring, ironic.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
And, of course, maybe it isn’t available.[/quote]
And it doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
Otherwise it's just defeatism approach.
Or saving [quote]lillitheris wrote...
D&D, AD&D, 3rd…[/quote]
Not 4th?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
No, Shepard is a nickname (which is to say, a name which is not the person’s real name but is used as such in some situations).[/quote]
If this is his "alias" and in reality he is, say, "Hauptmann Hermann Schnauber", fine, but how your version came up? Where you get this? Just to find some explanation for situation?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Yes, it’s also the surname—but you can’t argue that someone’s nickname shouldn’t be ‘Champ’ because that word means something.[/quote]
Foreigner is lost here.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Regardless of how it comes to be, a nickname is a nickname.[/quote]
I won't argue with apparently "bearer of the tongue", but aren't nicknames accentuated somehow? Especially if they used in official referrals and documents. Somehow I doubt Council, Udina and many others would call Shepard by his nickname, if Shepard is nickname and not surname.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
…Etc. Just take it on faith. It’s perfectly ordinary for a person to be called by their surname if that is the nickname they’ve somehow gained. [/quote]
"Surname is the nickname they get"?
So if some guy write home huge opuses in his mails home he could be called "Tolstoy" and that "surname turned nickname"?
Okay, but who, outside of his close "entourage" would know that? Or you suggest this "surname turned nickname" is so sticky so it is used even in official paperwork?
Any IRL examples? I guess my curiosity won't calm down by itself now.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
I get that you may have some hang-ups about it, but it’s not strange in itself—especially in the military. [/quote]
Yeah, I know, I was there. That's why I'm surprised - nicknames are nicknames, they are for unofficial usage among "your kind". Any official referral, especially paperwork - rank, surname (plus initials or full name+ patronym), sometimes personal (serial) number. No nicknames.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Everyone else is less familiar, by definition.[/quote]
Even your best friend?
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
I would not and do not bat an eye at everyone else saying Shepard.
The only thing that is somewhat unusual is the LI also using Shepard. Unusual, but not in any way inconceivable.[/quote]
It is unusual (for me, of course) if even friends refer you by your surname and not name. Or nickname, since you brought them.
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
Especially if it’s their private little thing.[/quote]
*activating drama mode* "More of those miserable auto-dialogues?"
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
OK?[/quote]
If clones of one person have different nicknames among themselves, it look very odd for me when different persons doesn't have anything but just one surname for one particular character. And rank, of course.
Somewhat I miss those days when PC was silent and you can call him as you wish.
Oh, how could I forgot? *deactivating drama mode".
[quote]lillitheris wrote...
It clearly does bother you. I’m explaining that there’s nothing terribly strange about it intrinsically. You can then, armed with this possibly new information, possibly reduce your stress about the issue—or not. That’s up to you.
[/quote]
Good jab. I like. /high5But I guess I'll stay where I am - I like when mosquitos explodes when they think I'm good place for dinner.
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lillitheris wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Anyway, I headcanon it more that, since Miranda has always called him "Shepard" while on and off duty, it just sort of stuck.
…And that is, then, a nickname. English doesn’t really have a better term for it, unfortunately. Miranda isn’t calling him by his last name, she’s calling him Shepard, if you see what I’m saying? She doesn’t think of it as his last name.
You yourself said a nickname is a name that is someone's real name.
Miranda is calling him "Shepard" because "Shepard" is Shepard's name.
I refer to him as "Shepard". I am not referring to him with a nickname, I'm stating his last name.
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Posté 01 septembre 2012 - 03:55
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lillitheris wrote...
o Ventus wrote...
Anyway, I headcanon it more that, since Miranda has always called him "Shepard" while on and off duty, it just sort of stuck.
…And that is, then, a nickname. English doesn’t really have a better term for it, unfortunately. Miranda isn’t calling him by his last name, she’s calling him Shepard, if you see what I’m saying? She doesn’t think of it as his last name.
I understand what you mean, and I agree.
There's this friend of my brothers i've known since childhood, and my brothers took to call him by his last name, just like the teachers did, maybe to tease him or out of camaraderie. I took it after them, and even though we're all adults now, i still call him by his last name, which is the name i give him - i wouldn't call that a nickname, but rather my "calling name" for him, maybe?
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Posté 03 septembre 2012 - 12:48
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No why should it. It rolls quite nicely off Liara's tongue anyway!
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There are some love interests for whom I feel it actually works really well. It somehow feels appropriate when Garrus or Ashley or Jack do it, for example. It's a bit strange when it's Kaidan or Thane or Traynor. Tali always struck me as the sort who'd call Shepard by a nickname of some kind, maybe something native to her culture (like how Merrill in Dragon Age II would call you "ma vhenan" if you romance her), so in this regard, the idea of "Shepard" as a non-nickname-nickname that Lilli mentions works well.
