15 réponses à ce sujet

[the_boci]

Its telling me that my viedo card is not supported. I have a Radeon 9550 256mb card. It told me that I need to update my driver, so I did that and now its telling that its not supported?

[-CastorTroy-]

I have the same problem, my video is a Radeon X700 256MB. Please help.

[Herethos]

I guess like most new games you need a graphic card which has atleast Pixel Shader 3.0 support, the X700 and Radeon 9550 only seems to have shader 2.0 support.

[Gorath Alpha]

The Radeon 9550 was only an X300 in its middle life. Its first life was as a 9600 seven years ago. It doesn't have the minimum Dx9.0b capable pixel shaders. The X700 does have those, but was dropped from support for current drivers, so requires Omega's drivers, but even then, only the X700 XT will be fast enough, and there never were very many of those because they were overpriced when compared to their relative performance capability.

The X850s had driver support longer than the other Xn00 cards, and is the named minimum, although with Omega drivers, most of the X800s should be adequate. Nevertheless, the minimum that they are allowed is very restrictive (small textures only).  Those Omega drivers won't help a Radeon 9550 or a 9600. 

It is also very likely that a system that has such an old video card in ot is equally elderly and obsolete with regard to the CPU and the RAM. 

Gorath
-

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 décembre 2009 - 04:49 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

Consider trying out this Graphics Card choice i'm attempting to get for my next puder upgrade:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814102864

[figpucker]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

The Radeon 9550 was only an X300 in its middle life. Its first life was as a 9600 seven years ago. It doesn't have the minimum Dx9.0b capable pixel shaders. The X700 does have those, but was dropped from support for current drivers, so requires Omega's drivers, but even then, only the X700 XT will be fast enough, and there never were very many of those because they were overpriced when compared to their relative performance capability.

The X850s had driver support longer than the other Xn00 cards, and is the named minimum, although with Omega drivers, most of the X800s should be adequate. Nevertheless, the minimum that they are allowed is very restrictive (small textures only).
Gorath

So this game is our only Christmas present.  It's a really sad day here. I bought this game for my husband who is now sulking downstairs.  I have spent the last 2 hours trying to find an answer and have come up with nothing concrete. I don't understand why you have to be a computer technician to play a game.

A lot of talking about supported video cards but no where do I see a list. I have googled and tried to find a list of supported video cards but to no avail.  Does one exist?

I find all the answers you post here confusing. Instead of saying...hey...this card does/does not work. Here's a list of cards that do/don't.  You go on about some history of cards on this horrible sad day.....uggghhh

At any rate, he has a Radeon 9600 pro.  After all this , I have to assume I wasted money on this game, his card won't work and if we want to play we have to get a new pc.  Since he is still using AGP.  God I hate christmas.

[figpucker]

So I installed the Omega drivers...PC is completely hosed!

Merry Christmas!

[Gorath Alpha]

nVIDIA stopped selling new AGP cards several years ago.  A few of ATI's partner companies still sell them.  However,  the tech backwardness penalty is financially severe. 

Be that as it may, the System Requirements were pretty clear, and the Radeon 9600 is a year too old.  It is really very, VERY old, in terms of PCs, which have a very rapid rate of evolution.  The internet has hundreds of web sites with noobs' tutorials about what video cards are all about, how to shop for them, how to compare them, etc. 

I have copied and edited Not theKing's list to post in this forum, right here:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/58/index/128343

Gorath
-

[figpucker]

Ok....well...I'm still confused.

I don't understand what this list has to do with what is supported.

Is the a list of supported cards?



I get that his PC is old. Sorry but I've been unemployed for over a year and I am trying to find out if there is an older card we can get that will work. I am aware that they don't make the AGP cards but you can still buy them at tigerdirect.com



Thank god, WOW still works.

[figpucker]

Ok, I uninstalled the omega drivers. His PC now works but it's not back to the way it was....sigh.

At any rate, I have now installed the game on my own pc which plays but now I can't use my pc.



In doing this, can I then get it back on his PC when we find some kind of upgrade? (maybe months away) or will this cause licensing issues.

[Herethos]

Shouldn't be any issues imo, since the game key is probably tied to his account anyway if he registered online, except it might not be allowed EULA wise(which no one ever reads just hits accept during the install anyway) unless you uninstall it first on the other computer or something to that effect. So yes there could be a licensing issue in that effect, but I guess nothing that will prevent you from playing the game on both computers. Unless the game complains that the user is already logged in or something when trying to login ingame, if you are logged in and trying to play on both at the same with the same account, or you could just play in offline mode. I don't know if this would have any issues on authorising the downloadable content/DLC however.

Also as a side note some games might have a limited amount activations depending on the copy protection used but this shouldn't be a problem with DA:O.

[Gorath Alpha]

figpucker wrote...

So I installed the Omega drivers...PC is completely hosed!
Merry Christmas!

Two members here were asking questions.  Only the one with an X700 "needed" to use those called Omega.  Drivers are software, and cannot add functionality not already provided by hardware.  I am on a fixed income myself, and never try to own the very latest products at the very latest high prices.  I always wait a year to a year and a half for the newer products to force prices down.  Because I love playing with my computers (including working on them),  I keep several in working condition, all around my house, with the exception of none in either bathroom. 

At various times of the year, the number of competing bidders on eBay seems less intense, and I can make some very good bargains buying that way.  Plenty of older AGP cards are available that way, many still NIB.  AGP was always a much more complicated and complex way to obtain good communication between the CPU and the GPU, and that old technology is still expensive compared to PCI express.  Add in the lowered number of sales of AGPs, and the prices run anywhere from $20 to $30 higher than PCIe. 

The best Bang for the Buck video card for over a year was the HD 4670 Radeon, in PCIe, available for $50 - $65 from m0ost online retailers.  I prefer Newegg among those.  If you said Tigerdirect because they had their outlet running in Canada first, there is now a Newegg Canada store to visit.  I will look up the stateside price of the AGP version, and see what else Newegg has that has the appropriate functionality.

Those will be edited in here later.

I ended up finding several of them, including one for $65, one for $85, and one for $90.  One was an X1650 Pro, that was $85, and the other is an HD 2600 XT (mid-level card, much better than the X 1650 Pro).  There were several HD 4650s for about $80, but the only HD 4670 that I saw there for AGP was $125.

www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

There is also an HD3650, not quite as fast as an HD 2600 XT, but newer, and with some added new shaders in it, at $65: www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx

You will see that all three named cards have "n600" performance coded
names, as did the old one you already had, but that one is so old that
the "600" in its name only meant it was newer than the 9500, and it was
not as good, so that on the basis of its performance, should have been
named the Radeon 9300 instead.

The edit that I prepared with that other card listed this way, a few minutes ago (the X1650 Pro), disappeared somehow.  I said that I hoped Christmas could be better for you, and wish I could do something to make that true.  

Gorath
-

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 25 décembre 2009 - 01:45 .

[figpucker]

Thanks Alpha.



I think you are limiting yourself by not setting up systems in the bathroom.



I would prefer not to use AGP but that would mean a new motherboard, new processor and new ram so it would be a much bigger expense. I'm disappointed because in all my years of playing games there have been video card problems....yes.... but i have never had a game just not work at all. I guess also, we have been playing World of Warcraft for so long we haven't really tried many new games.

[Gorath Alpha]

figpucker wrote...

I think you are limiting yourself by not setting up systems in the bathroom.

This old cottage is 50 years old now, and in those days, bathrooms were quite small.  I would have to build something so small it would fit inside a toilet paper roll holder, and hang a flat panel display on a wall.  That sounds as if it would be somewhat more expenasive than anything that I allow myself to spend on . .

I would prefer not to use AGP but that would mean a new motherboard, new processor and new ram so it would be a much bigger expense. I'm disappointed because in all my years of playing games there have been video card problems....yes.... but i have never had a game just not work at all. I guess also, we have been playing World of Warcraft for so long we haven't really tried many new games.

When PCIe, and DDR2, and the AM2 socket of AMD's A64s / X2s were all new, AsRock sold several MBs with the name "Dual" that had both AGP and PCIe video busses, the real things, and a way to have both old and new sockets, and both old and new RAM.  There was a "daughter" card for the new AM2 socket, and the DDR2 RAM, so the MB could bridge the technology changes. 

Incidentally, while I am no fan of either MMOs, nor of WoW, it is my understanding that they upped the ante on recent expansions that call for better hardware now.  Which reminds me, did you open the PM that I sent (Personal Message here at the Social Forums)? 

Anyway, I just visited eBay, and there is this one up for auction that hasn't yet reached but $25, with shipping:

cgi.ebay.com/512MB-8X-AGP-ATI-RADEON-HD2600PRO-GDDR2-DVI-VIDEO-CARD_W0QQitemZ180447668441QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Video_TV_Cards

(HD 2600 Pro card, the auction ends Sunday evening, at 6:05 PM, Pacific Standard Time).  It's up to $26.50, total, with another day to go now (new edit here).

Gorath
-

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 26 décembre 2009 - 04:50 .

[figpucker]

Yes, I am using that dual ASROCK motherboard. I've had it quite a while but it allowed me to slowly upgrade to newer parts. Only issue so far is my PCIe card, while it does run better than my old AGP card, doesn't get to work as well as it should. The board is limited to 8x.

WoW will be updating the graphics engine a bit but I seriously doubt beyond updating to more ram that it will change the system requirements much. The last time when there was even rumors of that the community started jumping up and down and having a fit.
Now the release of the newest Diablo, well, that may be something else.

I'm gonna go check out ebay right now....lol...haven't been able to use my PC since others were on it.

Modifié par figpucker, 26 décembre 2009 - 03:54 .

[Gorath Alpha]

figpucker wrote...

Yes, I am using that dual ASROCK motherboard. I've had it quite a while but it allowed me to slowly upgrade to newer parts. Only issue so far is my PCIe card, while it does run better than my old AGP card, doesn't get to work as well as it should. The board is limited to 8x.

Unless you have a very fast card, such as a GTX285, or 5870, or faster, the difference between 8X and 16X isn't likely to affect your system's performance, really.  I've compared the HD 3850 in AGP against the HD 3850 in PCIe, and the frame rate was very very similar, as was the image quality.  I was using the Omega drivers for the AGP card, though.

Worse than the bus bandwidth, though, was the spotty compatibility between ULi's version of PCIe and the available cards they (AsRock) were confirming to be usable. 

The total numbers of those AsRock Duals in the distribution pipelines were always small, so I was surprised to mention them and even have anyone be familiar with them! 

Gorath