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[TonyIommi]

Rogue Unit wrote...

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skate4tacos96 wrote...

@Rogue Unit It was called the "Extended Cut" DLC. It was bound to happen at some point, as most extended cuts are the work of their dev. teams seeing room for improvement. So yes, I think it would have happened without the annoying complaints.

then i envy your faith in bioware. g'day.

and i envy your faith in minority movements to affect change

and i envy your ignorance. bliss, isn't it?

No. I recognize truth is beauty. Normally when people quote ignorance is bliss are themselves usually mirred in it. 

ha! says the person who thinks EA released a major DLC for free to fix something that they claimed wasn't broken in the first place out of the kindness of their heart and not because of the fan backlash regarding the issue.

Yes because I think they would have released it any way regardless of the movement. The EC doesn't really add anything game play wise so it's not like you could  have sold it like actual game play. It is not a major dlc in any sense, it is simply extended cutscenes. 

It's hard to help you if you chose to remain ignorant man. 

check out the bolded.

"i think"

That means this just your opinion. are you really trying to argue that your opinion is somehow more valid than mine? especially with no evidence to supporting details to back up your claim other than the fact that it's "what you think"?

we're done here.

I'll start offering evidence when you get some and present some yourself. You claimed the retake movement got them to release EC dlc. I await the evidence of this. 

[Rogue Unit]

TonyIommi wrote...

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TonyIommi wrote...

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TonyIommi wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

@Rogue Unit It was called the "Extended Cut" DLC. It was bound to happen at some point, as most extended cuts are the work of their dev. teams seeing room for improvement. So yes, I think it would have happened without the annoying complaints.

then i envy your faith in bioware. g'day.

and i envy your faith in minority movements to affect change

and i envy your ignorance. bliss, isn't it?

No. I recognize truth is beauty. Normally when people quote ignorance is bliss are themselves usually mirred in it. 

ha! says the person who thinks EA released a major DLC for free to fix something that they claimed wasn't broken in the first place out of the kindness of their heart and not because of the fan backlash regarding the issue.

Yes because I think they would have released it any way regardless of the movement. The EC doesn't really add anything game play wise so it's not like you could  have sold it like actual game play. It is not a major dlc in any sense, it is simply extended cutscenes. 

It's hard to help you if you chose to remain ignorant man. 

check out the bolded.

"i think"

That means this just your opinion. are you really trying to argue that your opinion is somehow more valid than mine? especially with no evidence to supporting details to back up your claim other than the fact that it's "what you think"?

we're done here.

I'll start offering evidence when you get some and present some yourself. You claimed the retake movement got them to release EC dlc. I await the evidence of this. 

i admit there so sure way of saying that bioware created the EC DLC because of fan backlash unless bioware flat-out tells us, but there is siginificant reason to think that the pressure from retake, online petitions, and the media is the reason bioware made DLC for an ending they claimed was fine as is.

but you can't seem to admit that you're reasoning that "bioware would have done it anyway" is a unsupported fabrication made only to take credit anyway from those you dislike.

there are valid reasons to think retake played a part in the EC's creation. there is no reason to think bioware would have "done it anyway". infact, statements from bioware point to the exact opposite, seeing as how they thought the ending was fine like it was.

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 02 septembre 2012 - 04:09 .

[skate4tacos96]

Retake definitely played a part in what the EC was, but it would have been made anyway, imo. Anyways retake really wasn't people complaining, they were just people who saw a problem with something and sought to change. They wanted change, and they were willing to work for it, that isn't what annoys me. What does though are the people who b**** and moan all the time about how things needed to be changed... without taking action.

[Rogue Unit]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

Retake definitely played a part in what the EC was, but it would have been made anyway, imo. Anyways retake really wasn't people complaining, they were just people who saw a problem with something and sought to change. They wanted change, and they were willing to work for it, that isn't what annoys me. What does though are the people who b**** and moan all the time about how things needed to be changed... without taking action.

then that is different and i completely agree with you. going into a thread and saying "me3 ending sucks with/out ec dlc kthxbye" doesn't help anyone.

Modifié par Rogue Unit, 02 septembre 2012 - 04:11 .

[Darimaru]

Kathleen321 wrote...

 Still wish it was 5 bucks instead of 10

Agreed.  I really like Leviathan, but I felt it was much to short for 800 points.

[BlessedSoldier]

I will not reward my dog for taking a dump in my shoes just like I will not reward Bioware/EA for taking a dump in one of my favorite franchises.

[skate4tacos96]

Rogue Unit wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

Retake definitely played a part in what the EC was, but it would have been made anyway, imo. Anyways retake really wasn't people complaining, they were just people who saw a problem with something and sought to change. They wanted change, and they were willing to work for it, that isn't what annoys me. What does though are the people who b**** and moan all the time about how things needed to be changed... without taking action.

then that is different and i completely agree with you. going into a thread and saying "me3 ending sucks with/out ec dlc kthxbye" doesn't help anyone.

Thank you for agreeing with me. But that's the point I'm trying to make. I'm sorry if I said anything to annoy you, but I think we misunderstood eachother in what we were trying to say. From the beginning I wasn't necessarily saying that we should pay for DLC that we don't want in hopes that they'll make better DLC. I was just trying to say that all the negative feedback dampens everyones spirits including the dev team's. I was just suggesting that we support them morally and tell them what we, as their customers, want from them, without all the complaints and whining. But I'm glad we see eye-to-eye.

[ShepComing4U]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

Retake definitely played a part in what the EC was, but it would have been made anyway, imo. Anyways retake really wasn't people complaining, they were just people who saw a problem with something and sought to change. They wanted change, and they were willing to work for it, that isn't what annoys me. What does though are the people who b**** and moan all the time about how things needed to be changed... without taking action.

then that is different and i completely agree with you. going into a thread and saying "me3 ending sucks with/out ec dlc kthxbye" doesn't help anyone.

Thank you for agreeing with me. But that's the point I'm trying to make. I'm sorry if I said anything to annoy you, but I think we misunderstood eachother in what we were trying to say. From the beginning I wasn't necessarily saying that we should pay for DLC that we don't want in hopes that they'll make better DLC. I was just trying to say that all the negative feedback dampens everyones spirits including the dev team's. I was just suggesting that we support them morally and tell them what we, as their customers, want from them, without all the complaints and whining. But I'm glad we see eye-to-eye.

Agree completely. We need to coordinate with the dev team, not jump down their throats. Much more productive.

[Ghaleon]

I want to not give up but i have for the most part, i still post sometimes and still use the Retake banner for the hope that maybe a developer sees it, sees how they messed up with mass effect 3 and remembers how good they use to be and strives to be that way again.

[AngryFrozenWater]

I seem to be one of the few who is actually playing the game *and* criticizing it. I've even played Levi's DLC. But I can understand that other people don't. Not buying any more of BW's stuff is the only weapon customers have. Even though I understand the OP's motives, it's not helping to discourage them to use the only weapon they have. Only BW can change the situation.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 02 septembre 2012 - 04:38 .

[skate4tacos96]

See? This is what we need to do. We need to coordinate with the dev teams, and TELL them what we want, as civilized human beings. Sitting around sulking and complaining like children just puts everyone on edge. Instead, we need to morally support BioWare. We need them to know that we care about the Mass Effect franchise, that we care about them. We need to respect them as the real owners of Mass Effect. Only then will they respect us, AND our wants. So let's put aside the petty arguments and rivalries, it will get nothing accomplished. We have to be productive if we ever want anything done.

[yukon fire]

BioWare no longer has any desire to be a good example of anything in the video game industry, so they must now be a horrible warning.

[skate4tacos96]

yukon fire wrote...

BioWare no longer has any desire to be a good example of anything in the video game industry, so they must now be a horrible warning.

No offense, but I disagree with you very much so. I value the Mass Effect universe to much to just give up on it.

[yukon fire]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

BioWare no longer has any desire to be a good example of anything in the video game industry, so they must now be a horrible warning.

No offense, but I disagree with you very much so. I value the Mass Effect universe to much to just give up on it.

No offense, but I don't put much value into people who showed up in April (sporting only a three under their name) singing nothing but praises unto Bioware. They lied, and at times decided to not even try, and then they blamed us; and there is nothing redeemable about any of those things.  

[Rex Fallout]

yukon fire wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

BioWare no longer has any desire to be a good example of anything in the video game industry, so they must now be a horrible warning.

No offense, but I disagree with you very much so. I value the Mass Effect universe to much to just give up on it.

No offense, but I don't put much value into people who showed up in April (sporting only a three under their name) singing nothing but praises unto Bioware. They lied, and at times decided to not even try, and then they blamed us; and there is nothing redeemable about any of those things.  

This Guy- Deserves a medal.

[ShepComing4U]

yukon fire wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

BioWare no longer has any desire to be a good example of anything in the video game industry, so they must now be a horrible warning.

No offense, but I disagree with you very much so. I value the Mass Effect universe to much to just give up on it.

No offense, but I don't put much value into people who showed up in April (sporting only a three under their name) singing nothing but praises unto Bioware. They lied, and at times decided to not even try, and then they blamed us; and there is nothing redeemable about any of those things.  

I dont see what that has to do anything. I've only been on the forum for a week, but I've played Mass Effect since the game first came out all those years ago. Now, I'm not saying Bioware isnt at fault here, but aside from the ending I only have a few beefs with the overall game.

[Ratimir]

I'm a roleplayer. Have been for more than twenty years.

My favourite games ever include Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age Origins and the Fallout series.

Very few shooters hold any interest for me, and only ones with a solid story behind them.

BioWare have made it abundantly clear that they no longer care about roleplayers, and are no longer capable of telling a good story, or even telling the difference between a good story and a bad one.

I am no longer their target audience.

I didn't give up on BioWare. They gave up on me.

[Jadebaby]

Some just haven't been around long enough to see BioWare's decline since joining EA.

However, it doesn't mean you can underestimate the love they have for Mass Effect because of that.

He said he valued the ME universe, not BioWare themselves specifically.

[thefallen2far]

Pay for it for me, and I"l download it. I already paid for the Collctor's edition pre-ordered copy of the game with a new system and a Kinect for added gameplay. I've already given up a huge chunk of change for the game. If DLC doesn't change the ending, I see no reason to spend more money beyond the 400 I already gave them.however, if you really beieve in this, go ahead.

[Jadebaby]

ShepComing4U wrote...

I dont see what that has to do anything. I've only been on the forum for a week, but I've played Mass Effect since the game first came out all those years ago. Now, I'm not saying Bioware isnt at fault here, but aside from the ending I only have a few beefs with the overall game.

Did you play ME3 before the EC?

[ShepComing4U]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

I dont see what that has to do anything. I've only been on the forum for a week, but I've played Mass Effect since the game first came out all those years ago. Now, I'm not saying Bioware isnt at fault here, but aside from the ending I only have a few beefs with the overall game.

Did you play ME3 before the EC?

I played it well before the EC came out, and I hated them. I wanted to register and express this, but I couldnt remember the email that was used with EA. Found out the other day after playing the NHL 13 demo, but its pretty much been expressed for me now. I'm not a huge fan of the EC endings, but they make it tolerable. I'd love destroy even more if they had expanded on the breath scene.

[yukon fire]

Ratimir wrote...

I'm a roleplayer. Have been for more than twenty years.

My favourite games ever include Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age Origins and the Fallout series.

Very few shooters hold any interest for me, and only ones with a solid story behind them.

BioWare have made it abundantly clear that they no longer care about roleplayers, and are no longer capable of telling a good story, or even telling the difference between a good story and a bad one.

I am no longer their target audience.

I didn't give up on BioWare. They gave up on me.

Amen

[skate4tacos96]

yukon fire wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

yukon fire wrote...

BioWare no longer has any desire to be a good example of anything in the video game industry, so they must now be a horrible warning.

No offense, but I disagree with you very much so. I value the Mass Effect universe to much to just give up on it.

No offense, but I don't put much value into people who showed up in April (sporting only a three under their name) singing nothing but praises unto Bioware. They lied, and at times decided to not even try, and then they blamed us; and there is nothing redeemable about any of those things.  

Ugh it's attitudes like yours that can really ruin a thread. First, you're going to hold against me that I joined BSN in April, which I don't see how that's a problem in the first place. Secondly, you're going to hold against me the fact that I haven't confirmed my ME2 account, which also doesn't seem like such a horrid disgrace. And lastly, well you're on the forums for a reason I'm assuming... but you don't like BioWare? Hmmm. Clearly you're here because you are so desperate for a fight that you come up with the lamest of insults, in the hopes of getting a reaction. Luckily for you, I'm willing to play along... because I wanna hear what ridiculous things you have to say

[Kia Purity]

No. I can't trust them to make a quality game when they failed with the ending and failed again with EC because they NEVER addressed the problem of Star Kid existing to start with.

They keep writing around him and no matter how hard they try, it's just damn impossible to work it out without literally removing him as a whole.

Not to mention that the game has serious bugs to be addressed-- face import is still (slightly) broken to a degree not to mention planet scanning being soooo slow, quest journal being an utter failure.

How can you ask me to support them when the quality has clearly suffered? I spent so much money on Bioware because I BELIEVED and trusted their quality.

That's why I'm holding my wallet because I need proof that they are capable of delivering quality again. (I can't even buy the Leviathan dlc if I could anyway, on very strict budget atm.)

[skate4tacos96]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Some just haven't been around long enough to see BioWare's decline since joining EA.

However, it doesn't mean you can underestimate the love they have for Mass Effect because of that.

He said he valued the ME universe, not BioWare themselves specifically.

Actually, I've been involved with ME2 since it came out. That's when I started. I didn't bother joining the forum until April because I never felt like I hav to. But when ME3 came out, I'd occasionally look things up, and the results always included a thread from BSN. So one day, in the apparently horrid month of April, I signed up and only bothered to confirm ME3 because that's what I was playing. And I have noticed the differences since EA took over. But I value the ME universe, I could care less who makes it.