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Please people, don't give up on the Mass Effect team!


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obZen DF

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Hexley UK wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Please, don't let this be another DA2 and cancel future content ! :( I still cry when I think about the canceled Exalted March expansion. Oh oh oh what could've been.


LOL yea.....even more crap to pile on the crap...oh what could have been!!11!


DA2 was crap, but the DLC's were excellent, and Exalted March being a DLC....

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BlessedSoldier wrote...

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I'm a roleplayer. Have been for more than twenty years.

My favourite games ever include Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age Origins and the Fallout series.

Very few shooters hold any interest for me, and only ones with a solid story behind them.

BioWare have made it abundantly clear that they no longer care about roleplayers, and are no longer capable of telling a good story, or even telling the difference between a good story and a bad one.

I am no longer their target audience.

I didn't give up on BioWare. They gave up on me.


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yes they gave up on rpg gamers in the third part of a game that was ment to be a rpg shooter hybrid and not a fps or action game

this is also what they did to dragon age 2 when dragon age was a full rpg game

bioware is know for rpgs that is the type of gamer they get and they turned on that type of gamer

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I'm with ya as well.

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C9316 wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Please, don't let this be another DA2 and cancel future content ! :( I still cry when I think about the canceled Exalted March expansion. Oh oh oh what could've been.

Yeah.... not all that broken up about it, sorry..


Haha, that's so true! Link is pure gold.

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blueumi wrote...

BlessedSoldier wrote...

Ratimir wrote...

I'm a roleplayer. Have been for more than twenty years.

My favourite games ever include Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age Origins and the Fallout series.

Very few shooters hold any interest for me, and only ones with a solid story behind them.

BioWare have made it abundantly clear that they no longer care about roleplayers, and are no longer capable of telling a good story, or even telling the difference between a good story and a bad one.

I am no longer their target audience.

I didn't give up on BioWare. They gave up on me.


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yes they gave up on rpg gamers in the third part of a game that was ment to be a rpg shooter hybrid and not a fps or action game

this is also what they did to dragon age 2 when dragon age was a full rpg game

bioware is know for rpgs that is the type of gamer they get and they turned on that type of gamer


Quoted for truth and posterity. I haven't abandoned Bioware, it is Bioware that has abandone me and all customers like me. They want COD in space? Go for it, just don't expect my money.

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clos wrote...

C9316 wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Please, don't let this be another DA2 and cancel future content ! :( I still cry when I think about the canceled Exalted March expansion. Oh oh oh what could've been.

Yeah.... not all that broken up about it, sorry..


Haha, that's so true! Link is pure gold.


No that is Batman!:sick:

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I understand what your saying OP but I don't agree with you. BW has said a zilllion times over, they are *not* changing the ending and I have no reason to see that changing any.

But as far as not holding our wallets if people are dissatisfied that is just not realistic, BW/EA are a company and they are not going to do something unless it affects their bottom line. The EC DLC was a business decision, not because of the clamor by those who were not happy about the ending or how much BW cared about its fans. Buying DLC just to support a franchise/product you are not happy with is just stupid.

If you like ME3 enough that buying DLC to support it is the way to go, than good for you, but otherwise it makes zero sense to spend money on them.

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12 bucks (so far). Yeah, that's not going to break me. I had fun with ME3. Right up until the endings. They made a good compromise, imo, so I'll continue to buy dlc's for a game (and dlc) that I enjoy. Leviathan was a good little romp. I think the next dlc will be too. If it's Omega, as most people think.

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Sorry OP, but I will not spend even a single cent on theirs product. Company didn't care about old fans anymore, call them too stupid to understand excellent game ending, screw ME2 companion's fans ,don't want to listen us..so they are not worthy of my blind faith. I bought almost every game from BW since Baldur's Gate, but DA2 and Mass Effect 3 are break point for me. They ruined my fun from ME Trilogy, now it collect a dust somewhere in my room. I don't care anymore about game knowing the ending...so why I should buy any DLC if I even will not play it? Only becouse some twitter/interview hints which can be easilly just one more lie we got from Devs ?

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However the very very very obvious flipside of this is that while your doling out your cash that offers a sense of false rightness to BW, they will think that they are making what we want, cause we continue to purchase it. therefore they will continue to produce it.

Lets not and say we did.

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People need to stop holding their wallets and start supporting this company if they ever want anything in regards to the endings changed.

There is absolutely NOTHING stopping them from cutting their losses and running, cancelling future dlc plans.

I don't know about you, but I REALLY don't want to see that happen!

In fact, I would rather support them on blind faith and optimism alone, hoping that they will listen and fix this with future dlc. But for that to happen, people need to get off their "youtube" horses and show BioWare how much you want a better ending for Shepard and for Mass Effect too.

Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

In the same way we all banded together to "hold the line", we need to band together once again to show BioWare just how far we're willing to go. Sure, this blind faith might be a bit dellusional, but I know for a fact that 'holding the wallet', is not going to do anything but bad things.


I disagree with your position OP.

Why is it the consumers' responsibility to support a product that doesn't meet their needs? And you're suggesting that we keep supporting a company on the unfounded hope that they might listen to us? That's not how the free market works.

If they can't meet the needs of their consumers' and subsequently fail, then that is their responsibility. So if Leviathan fails to meet their projected sales, and they cancel all future DLC for ME3 and move on to another game (ME4 or even a new IP), then that's just the market forces at work. As consumers' it's our job to look out for our best interests and to pick winners and losers with our hard earned money.

Now for me, I did buy Leviathan and the Firefight pack. I thought they were a good value and I was pleased with the DLC. If I end up in the minority and Leviathan does fail (and future DLC plans are nixed), then that's just the free market doing what it does. I may be disappointed for a bit (like I was with the cancellation of Exalted March), but there's plenty of other games coming out that I'm looking forward to. I'll just move on and play another game, and maybe when Bioware releases it's next games I might buy one of them if it appeals to me.

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Trust me. I understand how you feel. I literally want to cry from the thought. I've had a hell of a time with this. The only thing EA is doing right now is The Sims. The only thing that is going to keep EA a float right now is Their sports games and Sims. Those two franchises is what is making EA money. Without those two they would be dead. 

The Battle Field franchise! We'll they are pissing them off already. Especially after Dice said they wouldn't come out with a yearly game. :bandit:

They lied!

I want my RPG back. I want to hold the idea of roleplaying and story together and I will hold them up for it. Kingdom's of Amaluer was great. It was made by EA, but I don't know if EA is willing to do this.

I feel Bioware might just give us an additional ending. i don't want to see them fail. I don't want to see them fired, but I want to see Shepard with the crew alive and well and maybe a vacation or two. <3

For me it's to late to not want to see them fail, they already failed in the way they handled this whole mess.

Modifié par dbollendorf, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:34 .


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I'm giving them a fair shot, But I agree with people who aren't getting the DLC, to be frank I am 99% sure ME3 will be my last Bioware game ever, Unless they can work a miracle.

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

I'm giving them a fair shot, But I agree with people who aren't getting the DLC, to be frank I am 99% sure ME3 will be my last Bioware game ever, Unless they can work a miracle.


i feel the same way

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VettoRyouzou wrote...

I'm giving them a fair shot, But I agree with people who aren't getting the DLC, to be frank I am 99% sure ME3 will be my last Bioware game ever, Unless they can work a miracle.

I might get DA3 hoping it will get them back on the right track but if DA3 is bad then I might be done with EAware

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Considering the empire they have built, with the criticism they received, and the talent they have, giving up on them would be foolish. But hey, all I see or hear are people complaining about something half a year old, so what do I know?

Despite that, I feel that when they announce a new ME series for the next generation of consoles people will be ecstatic, because the potential those games hold are through the roof. Even if they lose, say, 10% of their fanbase because of the ending who will not get off their soapbox, they'll still be in a good position to make a lot of money.

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Give money on hope? I'm sorry but I don't have money to waste on something like that. As a student, I only rarely break my budget to get a game or dlc and it has to be worth it so my opinion might be different but just giving money to a company that let you down in the hope that somewhere along the road they get it right is highly delusional.

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Man, this thread seems to have great potential for a good read. Marked.

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obZen DF wrote...

Hexley UK wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Please, don't let this be another DA2 and cancel future content ! :( I still cry when I think about the canceled Exalted March expansion. Oh oh oh what could've been.


LOL yea.....even more crap to pile on the crap...oh what could have been!!11!


DA2 was crap, but the DLC's were excellent, and Exalted March being a DLC....


The first DLC was excellent. The second was a piece of crap just so the devs can get some play time with Felicia Day. Sort of like why they put Snooki in ME3.  (and you thought that was Jessica Chabot? lol)

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At this point I don't have any hope left they will change the endings again.

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Hexley UK wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Please, don't let this be another DA2 and cancel future content ! :( I still cry when I think about the canceled Exalted March expansion. Oh oh oh what could've been.


LOL yea.....even more crap to pile on the crap...oh what could have been!!11!


Legacy which was the first DLC was pretty good. As I was playing it I kept thinking, "The whole game should have been like this!" Then played Mark of the Assassin and thought "More crap. Thank god I got it for free or I'd be wanting my money back. I still feel Bioware should pay me for the amount of time I wasted."

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Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

I was fooled twice by BioWare, and most importantly, after their disrespectful response, I won't be giving them another shot. That is, unless they rescind their statement on "artistic integrity" and apologize. Artistic integrity is not an excuse for one to lie about a game's features TWO MONTHS PRIOR TO THE GAME'S RELEASE. In my opinion, they disrespected artistic integrity, and I can't in good conscience condone such an act. If BioWare by any chance releases a DLC that makes everything better, I'll buy it for my own closure. Regardless, I won't be spending any more money on BioWare after they are done with ME3 DLC's for sure.

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Bioware is freaking potato with that in mind, she knows that we fans of Mass Effect never gave it back. If she needs our positive feedback to continue with the DLCs so here it is: I finished the Leviathan sensational today and thought, might have one more thing here and there, but it was still one of the best DLCs in the entire series! The end of ME3 may not have been the best, and ta far from it, but the DLCs only help enrich the story and that's what I want. Now I want to "Take Omega Back!" could play with Aria and Garrus, would not it amazing?

Modifié par AlefN7, 02 septembre 2012 - 11:15 .


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I want to get all the DLC but I really CAN't play ME3 I putter around in it for a few minutes and I shut it down. I'm not throwing money at something thats makes my stomach hurt to play. I know how it all ends. No matter what it all ends badly. I do appreciate what the EC did but it was NOT enough so I will use my 10 bucks on ice cream instead.

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Legendary Chop Chop wrote...

Considering the empire they have built, with the criticism they received, and the talent they have, giving up on them would be foolish. But hey, all I see or hear are people complaining about something half a year old, so what do I know?

Despite that, I feel that when they announce a new ME series for the next generation of consoles people will be ecstatic, because the potential those games hold are through the roof. Even if they lose, say, 10% of their fanbase because of the ending who will not get off their soapbox, they'll still be in a good position to make a lot of money.


Hmm yes it only 10%... then there was 10% for DA2 and it "Creative map desgin". You see little one, company rarely lose... 30% of there base for a mess up... but a chip here... and a chip there, a little crack at the base. Get bigger and bigger, So ya there already walking into DA3 with a 20% fan base loss and if they screw that up.. another "chip" appears and well, you be shocked how quickly those chips will bring down a structer.