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[Benchpress610]

devSin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So does that mean I don't have to have 100% readiness to get the best ending? When I say best ending I mean the one where your LI doesn't put the nameplate on the wall.

Nope. You never needed 100% readiness.

You needed 5,000 EMS (4,000 if you make the final persuasion attempt and can "save" Anderson) before the extended cut. But there are fewer than 8,000 total assets available in the single-player campaign (prior to Leviathan, at least), meaning that you could never achieve the required EMS with the default 50% readiness. You either had to play multiplayer or use the iOS apps (or cheat).

This was changed in the extended cut to only 3,100 EMS, which is readily achievable with the default readiness (it may require you to import an ME2 save, but it's still a number that shouldn't be prohibitive for most players).

I’m sorry; you said you can save Anderson? How? I admit I only went through that part twice, once before EC and once after. In both cases I had more than 5000 EMS and I went paragon all the time. I always get TIM to shoot himself, but I  can’t avoid my Shepard to get controlled and shoot Anderson, which is one of the episodes that bugs me the most about the ending.

[Jadebaby]

Benchpress610 wrote...

devSin wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

So does that mean I don't have to have 100% readiness to get the best ending? When I say best ending I mean the one where your LI doesn't put the nameplate on the wall.

Nope. You never needed 100% readiness.

You needed 5,000 EMS (4,000 if you make the final persuasion attempt and can "save" Anderson) before the extended cut. But there are fewer than 8,000 total assets available in the single-player campaign (prior to Leviathan, at least), meaning that you could never achieve the required EMS with the default 50% readiness. You either had to play multiplayer or use the iOS apps (or cheat).

This was changed in the extended cut to only 3,100 EMS, which is readily achievable with the default readiness (it may require you to import an ME2 save, but it's still a number that shouldn't be prohibitive for most players).

I’m sorry; you said you can save Anderson? How? I admit I only went through that part twice, once before EC and once after. In both cases I had more than 5000 EMS and I went paragon all the time. I always get TIM to shoot himself, but I  can’t avoid my Shepard to get controlled and shoot Anderson, which is one of the episodes that bugs me the most about the ending.

No, you can't that's why he said "save" in air-quotes. He means save him from being killed by TIM.

[Ryoten]

This whole thread reeks of stupidity. This reminds me of those billboards you see on the road that say "support your democratic/republican team!". Even though that team sold you out, blamed all their problems on you, and got their constituents to attack you as well.

[Zardoc]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

And we hold all the money.

Usually, if one is dissatisfied with a developer, one withholds one's money until said developer starts producing quality work worthy of being bought again. Buying on blind faith is the worst thing one can do.

Modifié par Zardoc, 03 septembre 2012 - 11:24 .

[Jadebaby]

Zardoc wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

And we hold all the money.

Usually, if one is dissatisfied with a developer, one withholds one's money until said developer starts producing quality work worthy of being bought again. Buying on blind faith is the worst thing one can do.

Once ME3 is really finished. I agree.

[Zardoc]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

And we hold all the money.

Usually, if one is dissatisfied with a developer, one withholds one's money until said developer starts producing quality work worthy of being bought again. Buying on blind faith is the worst thing one can do.

Once ME3 is really finished. I agree.

It is. And buying DLC on blind faith is not only stupid but most unresponsible.

[Jadebaby]

Zardoc wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

And we hold all the money.

Usually, if one is dissatisfied with a developer, one withholds one's money until said developer starts producing quality work worthy of being bought again. Buying on blind faith is the worst thing one can do.

Once ME3 is really finished. I agree.

It is. And buying DLC on blind faith is not only stupid but most unresponsible.

Omega being in production disproves your claim.

[Ridwan]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Why would I care what the DLC adds to the story when in the end some see through kid shows up? The fact that Bioware just can't man up and say "Look guys, we're sorry we ****ed up. We thought we were being smart with this ending, but like adults (and cause we want your money and support) we will apologise to you" hell that would've gone a long way. But we didn't even get an apology, except for some half assed statement about "trying to please our most passionate fans (hint that translates into no life losers), but still maintain our artistic integrity (translation: "we won't change the ending, bite me").

So yeah, I didn't buy Javik, I youtubed the EC and I have 0 interest in Leviathan since I know no matter what happens Shepard is still gonna face three colours.

That's supposing they didn't intend to plan it this way. Whether they had the Ace up their sleave or are going to do it because of the backlash, I'm deludedly confident that they will rectify it by the end.

You know this is going to be a cold thing to say over the internet, but you're pretty naive and a walking cash cow for Bioware. I'm not trying to be rude, but you need to understand that after the aquisition of Bioware by EA, we're not looking at a company that follows the formula of happy customer = buying customer, but the "We need to push this game out before the deadline. Hold up, memo from the top it says "Milk 'em dry with DLC maps for multiplayer" anyone objects? *honest Joe raises his hand* Ok you're fired. Anyone else? No? Good, let's make some money". If you want Bioware to become the good company again they need to die, since EA owns them and make a new company.

[prothy.the.prothean]

M25105 wrote...

after the aquisition of Bioware by EA, we're not looking at a company that follows the formula of happy customer = buying customer, but the "We need to push this game out before the deadline. Hold up, memo from the top it says "Milk 'em dry with DLC maps for multiplayer" anyone objects? *honest Joe raises his hand* Ok you're fired. Anyone else? No? Good, let's make some money". If you want Bioware to become the good company again they need to die, since EA owns them and make a new company.

I agree with the Krogan for the most part.
However, do you think people are really going to stop buying BioWare's games/merchandise? No. Hell, even if some do--it would probably never be enough to drive them to the point where most of you want them at, bankruptcy.

I don't blindly support BW either (just so you know) with hopes that they will fix the ending. That won't happen. Ever. However, I won't let one "crappy" ending ruin the entire Mass Effect series for me and the universe I love so much. With that in mind, the merchandise I acquire as well as future video games will be purely for the love I have for the series, and the literally hundreds of hours I have spent on ME 1 & 2, as well as 3 (for the most part). I feel the characters and worlds created here stand above any ending for me.

[Jadebaby]

M25105 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Why would I care what the DLC adds to the story when in the end some see through kid shows up? The fact that Bioware just can't man up and say "Look guys, we're sorry we ****ed up. We thought we were being smart with this ending, but like adults (and cause we want your money and support) we will apologise to you" hell that would've gone a long way. But we didn't even get an apology, except for some half assed statement about "trying to please our most passionate fans (hint that translates into no life losers), but still maintain our artistic integrity (translation: "we won't change the ending, bite me").

So yeah, I didn't buy Javik, I youtubed the EC and I have 0 interest in Leviathan since I know no matter what happens Shepard is still gonna face three colours.

That's supposing they didn't intend to plan it this way. Whether they had the Ace up their sleave or are going to do it because of the backlash, I'm deludedly confident that they will rectify it by the end.

You know this is going to be a cold thing to say over the internet, but you're pretty naive and a walking cash cow for Bioware. I'm not trying to be rude, but you need to understand that after the aquisition of Bioware by EA, we're not looking at a company that follows the formula of happy customer = buying customer, but the "We need to push this game out before the deadline. Hold up, memo from the top it says "Milk 'em dry with DLC maps for multiplayer" anyone objects? *honest Joe raises his hand* Ok you're fired. Anyone else? No? Good, let's make some money". If you want Bioware to become the good company again they need to die, since EA owns them and make a new company.

Mass Effect 3 isn't over until the last piece of dlc is out.

You're just acting out impatiently.

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 05 septembre 2012 - 03:37 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 After playing Leviathan DLC today, I sure as hell am *not!


*not giving up.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 05 septembre 2012 - 03:55 .

[KiwiQuiche]

No, Bioware can cram their artistic integrity and speculations up their ass. They won't get any money from me again.

[Texhnolyze101]

Who ever made this thread is both naive and a tool.

[JShepppp]

hoodaticus wrote...

100% agree with the OP and her sexy Australian voice.

Australian voices are indeed sexy.

On topic, I agree completely. Bioware did good moneywise with this game; they could just pack up and leave happy and create another game. 

[Jadebaby]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

Who ever made this thread is both naive and a tool.

right here buddy

[Illusive]

If these rumors about Project X are true, and if sales of the Leviathan DLC end up well short of expectations (and profitability), then shouldn't Bioware just hold off on Omega and just develop/release the Project X DLC? This way, the better ending provided by Project X makes it more likely that players refusing to buy DLC without ending fix (like me) will purchase Leviathan and subsequent DLC they put forth.

So I don't really think there is any potential negative consequence if dissatisfied fans don't buy Leviathan and other DLC on blind optimism.

[KiwiQuiche]

Anthonx wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

No, Bioware can cram their artistic integrity and speculations up their ass. They won't get any money from me again.

There was room for that or my money up there, guess what they chose?

I think Mac and Casey are in there as well

[James.Hegedusich]

To the OP: why would I, someone struggling to make ends meet as is, who scrapes and saves money so I can buy games I like, sit here and throw my money at a company who clearly has snubbed it's fan base? Sorry, after the horrible PR (from bioware itself, it's FB admins, as well as BSN itself), selling out to EA's "let's appeal to the CoD fan base to squeeze every penny of this franchise," attitude, and creating a "Refuse" ending that was essentially a middle finger to those who hated the ending, they have to EARN my money back, period. I'm not going to go on blind optimism and support them anyway. That'd be like Tina Turner continuing to take Ike's crap because "Hey, maybe tomorrow he'll treat me like his wife and not a punching bag," but deep down knowing that the next day is another day of pain. Pretty stupid right? No, it's time Bioware realized THEY NEED US, not the way around. If people want to continue being blind fanboys, that's fine. Personally, I'm finishing up with the ME trilogy, including DLC's for closure, and washing my hands of Bioware afterward. As for EA, same thing. If there is an EA game I want, I will buy it used. But I will not sit here and tell Bioware to not worry about it and keep sticking it to me in hopes that the old Bioware is still in there.

[robertm2]

just let it go. if they charged people for a better ending through dlc it would cause more hate for them considering the extended cut was supposed to be the big fix. and it doesnt seem like that many people are "holding the wallet" because of the ending anymore. now it seems to be leaning more towards the failure of da2, the lower quality of me3 as a whole and the general direction they seemed to be headed as a company. me like many others realize they are scrapping the things that made their games good in the first place and thus are either very cautious about future purchases or done buying from bioware period. Personally i am not holding my wallet completely on future titles im just giving my money to gamestop for a used game until bioware proves they can make great games again. And as for dlc im not buying it because i was let down by mass effect 3 as a whole and have no desire to pay 10$ for an extra 2 hours of something i didnt really care for.

[robertm2]

James.Hegedusich wrote...

To the OP: why would I, someone struggling to make ends meet as is, who scrapes and saves money so I can buy games I like, sit here and throw my money at a company who clearly has snubbed it's fan base? Sorry, after the horrible PR (from bioware itself, it's FB admins, as well as BSN itself), selling out to EA's "let's appeal to the CoD fan base to squeeze every penny of this franchise," attitude, and creating a "Refuse" ending that was essentially a middle finger to those who hated the ending, they have to EARN my money back, period. I'm not going to go on blind optimism and support them anyway. That'd be like Tina Turner continuing to take Ike's crap because "Hey, maybe tomorrow he'll treat me like his wife and not a punching bag," but deep down knowing that the next day is another day of pain. Pretty stupid right? No, it's time Bioware realized THEY NEED US, not the way around. If people want to continue being blind fanboys, that's fine. Personally, I'm finishing up with the ME trilogy, including DLC's for closure, and washing my hands of Bioware afterward. As for EA, same thing. If there is an EA game I want, I will buy it used. But I will not sit here and tell Bioware to not worry about it and keep sticking it to me in hopes that the old Bioware is still in there.

Bravo! if i could do gifs you would get the citizen kane clap for sure. its a shame people dont realize this or just plain dont care.

[Ridwan]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Why would I care what the DLC adds to the story when in the end some see through kid shows up? The fact that Bioware just can't man up and say "Look guys, we're sorry we ****ed up. We thought we were being smart with this ending, but like adults (and cause we want your money and support) we will apologise to you" hell that would've gone a long way. But we didn't even get an apology, except for some half assed statement about "trying to please our most passionate fans (hint that translates into no life losers), but still maintain our artistic integrity (translation: "we won't change the ending, bite me").

So yeah, I didn't buy Javik, I youtubed the EC and I have 0 interest in Leviathan since I know no matter what happens Shepard is still gonna face three colours.

That's supposing they didn't intend to plan it this way. Whether they had the Ace up their sleave or are going to do it because of the backlash, I'm deludedly confident that they will rectify it by the end.

You know this is going to be a cold thing to say over the internet, but you're pretty naive and a walking cash cow for Bioware. I'm not trying to be rude, but you need to understand that after the aquisition of Bioware by EA, we're not looking at a company that follows the formula of happy customer = buying customer, but the "We need to push this game out before the deadline. Hold up, memo from the top it says "Milk 'em dry with DLC maps for multiplayer" anyone objects? *honest Joe raises his hand* Ok you're fired. Anyone else? No? Good, let's make some money". If you want Bioware to become the good company again they need to die, since EA owns them and make a new company.

Mass Effect 3 isn't over until the last piece of dlc is out.

You're just acting out impatiently.

Or I'm just looking at the trend and being a realist.

[Jadebaby]

M25105 wrote...

Or I'm just looking at the trend and being a realist.

If they give an additional "win" ending via dlc, will you be content?

[Ridwan]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...


Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

And we hold all the money.

Usually, if one is dissatisfied with a developer, one withholds one's money until said developer starts producing quality work worthy of being bought again. Buying on blind faith is the worst thing one can do.

Once ME3 is really finished. I agree.

It is. And buying DLC on blind faith is not only stupid but most unresponsible.

Omega being in production disproves your claim.

Disproves what claim? Well it certainly disproves some peoples lack of selfcontrol. Keep forking that money over to Bioware, I'm sure they'll learn their lesson everytime you buy DLC and CE.

[Ridwan]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Or I'm just looking at the trend and being a realist.

If they give an additional "win" ending via dlc, will you be content?

They could start by manning up and just straight up apologise instead of siding with the sycophant gaming media that keeps telling them they can do no wrong *ignores the sight of an EA employee handing money under the table*