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[DirtyPhoenix]

Well I'm not giving up on ME team anytime soon, but maybe not for the reasons OP hopes. xD

[Conniving_Eagle]

Furthermore, Bioware don't get the easy way out this time, they don't deserve another show of good faith from the fans. They've disappointed us over and over: DA2, STWOR, Mass Effect 3. The way they're handling Mass Effect 3 now is pitiful. If anyone wants to use the bull**** "art" argument, you need a reality check, Mass Effect 3 is commissioned art, subject to the consumer. Extra cut scenes - just because they fixed one thing, doesn't give them the right to act like everything is okay. People wanted a lot more than just an improved epilogue. If I payed someone to paint a portrait of me, and they purposely made my face hideous, and I asked them to fix it; if they only fixed the nose and refused to do anything more you're damn ****ing right I'll still be pissed and making demands. You think I'm going to hire this artist again when they tell me "Nope, that's all I can do for you" and their last three paintings have been utter crap? No, that artist is a pretentious and egotistical jerk, I'm not going to continue supporting them. Bioware haven't even apologized, the most we got was a "Yo dawg! I heard you thought the endings to Mass Effect 3 sucked so I made a DLC that shows you more of the same endings so you'll keep buying my stuff." Not only does their attitude contradict them is artists, it is antithetical to a sound business model. I'm not going to buy from Bioware anymore, they've long lost the right to solicit my money.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:49 .

[KENNY4753]

the way I see it is if the dlc fails EA will move on past Mass Effect but if it succeeds they will just keep putting out half a** products because they will get money from it. It's sort of a lose lose situation. I would like to think if fans showed there support then they would see we still care about Mass Effect and give us what we really want.

[EnvyTB075]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

I don't want Mass Effect 3 being cut.

Well isn't that good for you.

I don't want BioWare making Mass Effect games in the same vein as 3, i'd rather a return to 2, and supporting ME3 ain't gonna do that, its just going to show you like auto-dialogue, unimaginative Gears of War combat, action action shooty times and absolutely zero exploration.

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:51 .

[2484Stryker]

Sorry but I youtubed the DLC already. It's basically 10% new content/information and 90% re-hash of existing combat. Not really worth $10 for me.

[Thaa_solon]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Furthermore, Bioware don't get the easy way out this time, they don't deserve another show of good faith from the fans. They've disappointed us over and over: DA2, STWOR, Mass Effect 3. The way they're handling Mass Effect 3 now is pitiful. If anyone wants to use the bull**** "art" argument, you need a reality check, Mass Effect 3 is commissioned art, subject to the consumer. Extra cut scenes - just because they fixed one thing, doesn't give them the right to act like everything is okay. People wanted a lot more than just an improved epilogue. If I payed someone to paint a portrait of me, and they purposely made my face hideous, and I asked them to fix it. If they only fixed the nose and refused to do anything more you're damn ****ing right I'll still be pissed and making demands. You think I'm going to hire this artist again when they tell me "Nope, that's all I can do for you" and their last three paintings have been utter crap? No, that artist is a pretentious and egotistical jerk, I'm not going to continue supporting them. Bioware haven't even apologized, the most we got was a "Yo dawg! I heard you thought the endings to Mass Effect 3 sucked so I made a DLC that shows you more of the same endings so you'll keep buying my stuff." Not only does their attitude contradict them is artists, it is antithetical to a sound business model. I'm not going to buy from Bioware anymore and they've long lost the right to solicit my money.

THIS

and also Laibach

[Linksys17]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

Furthermore, Bioware don't get the easy way out this time, they don't deserve another show of good faith from the fans. They've disappointed us over and over: DA2, STWOR, Mass Effect 3. The way they're handling Mass Effect 3 now is pitiful. If anyone wants to use the bull**** "art" argument, you need a reality check, Mass Effect 3 is commissioned art, subject to the consumer. Extra cut scenes - just because they fixed one thing, doesn't give them the right to act like everything is okay. People wanted a lot more than just an improved epilogue. If I payed someone to paint a portrait of me, and they purposely made my face hideous, and I asked them to fix it; if they only fixed the nose and refused to do anything more you're damn ****ing right I'll still be pissed and making demands. You think I'm going to hire this artist again when they tell me "Nope, that's all I can do for you" and their last three paintings have been utter crap? No, that artist is a pretentious and egotistical jerk, I'm not going to continue supporting them. Bioware haven't even apologized, the most we got was a "Yo dawg! I heard you thought the endings to Mass Effect 3 sucked so I made a DLC that shows you more of the same endings so you'll keep buying my stuff." Not only does their attitude contradict them is artists, it is antithetical to a sound business model. I'm not going to buy from Bioware anymore and they've long lost the right to solicit my money.

well not supporting Bioware at all is a little extreme if they make a product that you like then buy it I say but for me no ME3 dlc is appealing so I will reserve my cash

[BatmanPWNS]

ShepComing4U wrote...

Neizd wrote...

Agreed with OP 100%. ME team may failed with ME3 but they ARE the people that gave us ME1 and ME2. A little faith in them is something that only true fans would have...even if they are angry with what we got. Too bad recently on BSN there is only hate and anger at BW... If I were in their shoes, seeing everything like this, I would just give up because no one needs a fanbase that can only create negative topics. The game had flaws, the ending was one of the biggest ones, but it also had good moments. People here should learn to see the game as a whole (average game) and not only the ending.

See the game as a whole and not just the ending? It was the end of an emotional and thrilling trilogy. A trilogy I personally invested 250+ hours in, and close to 200$ of money. (Including games and DLC). I think I have a right to be dissatisfied if I feel there's not enough closure to end a journey that I enjoyed for the most part. Yes, ME3 was a good game. BUT, I feel the ME2 romances were tossed aside, and some romances treated better than others, they completely ignored some lore entirely, the choices made earlier in the series didn't matter (rachni queen, collector base) and that they replaced most choices with autodialogue. I've followed Bioware since the original Knights of the Old Republic, and now I'm pretty close to abandoning them entirely.

Seeing the game as a whole is worse. Autodialogue? Fetch Quest? Journal? Side Missions? The Plot? Yeah, all of that sucks in ME3 and I'm not rewarding Bioware for mediocre.

[ShepComing4U]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

It's simple, they want me to headcanon my happy ending, I'll headcanon my happy ending, but in return, they're going to have to headcanon me giving them my money.

This.

That as well

Then you're giving up, forget about the money and think about Shepard.

If their dlc fails then they will just move on.

Taking a stand here on bsn by holding back your money wont get you anywhere, EA will just pull the plug and move on. Whose to say they will even notice "why" their dlc wont sell?

I mean BioWare probably will, but EA will just see a loss of revenue and cut it.

I don't want Mass Effect 3 being cut.

This is naive thinking. I'm not going to continue to blindly buy a product I'm not interested in. Bioware and EA will see the sales as fan interest, not support. They will continue to dish out DLC that will not give you what you want. This is not the way to get them to change the endings.

Modifié par ShepComing4U, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:50 .

[Krozuhsky]

Youtube ALL the DLCs.

[sparkyo42]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

It's simple, they want me to headcanon my happy ending, I'll headcanon my happy ending, but in return, they're going to have to headcanon me giving them my money.

This.

That as well

Then you're giving up, forget about the money and think about Shepard.

If their dlc fails then they will just move on.

Taking a stand here on bsn by holding back your money wont get you anywhere, EA will just pull the plug and move on. Whose to say they will even notice "why" their dlc wont sell?

I mean BioWare probably will, but EA will just see a loss of revenue and cut it.

I don't want Mass Effect 3 being cut.

It's unfiar to try and guilty players into supporting the DLC Jade, if they don't want to support it then that is their choice.

What if any lessons Bioware takes from this is for the future (personnally I don't see them learning much)

If the Pros are the majority then fine no problem and the DLC will continue, if not then it is what it is.

[spirosz]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

It's simple, they want me to headcanon my happy ending, I'll headcanon my happy ending, but in return, they're going to have to headcanon me giving them my money.

[Oransel]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Then you're giving up, forget about the money and think about Shepard.

If their dlc fails then they will just move on.

Taking a stand here on bsn by holding back your money wont get you anywhere, EA will just pull the plug and move on. Whose to say they will even notice "why" their dlc wont sell?

I mean BioWare probably will, but EA will just see a loss of revenue and cut it.

I don't want Mass Effect 3 being cut.

I understand you, but they won't change the ending. Not because they said so, but because too much bad blood has happened for 6 months. They obviously hate us by now, just look at what they have done and said. Perhaps if we, anti-enders were less radical and they were more willing to talk, things could have been better. But now both parties treat this as war. And now only pride matters. If I can't help ME3 gett better, I'll make sure BW and EA won't get away with what they did to franchise and I won't buy DLC, even if I have spare money.

[CroGamer002]

spirosz wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

It's simple, they want me to headcanon my happy ending, I'll headcanon my happy ending, but in return, they're going to have to headcanon me giving them my money.

Burned.

[Baa Baa]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Changing ending by DLC is a horrible idea.

I always thought that if we were super lucky they'd release a ME4 that retconned everything past the fleet's arrival.

[Baa Baa]

spirosz wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

It's simple, they want me to headcanon my happy ending, I'll headcanon my happy ending, but in return, they're going to have to headcanon me giving them my money.

Well ****ing done

[Applepie_Svk]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

LiarasShield wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

It's simple, they want me to headcanon my happy ending, I'll headcanon my happy ending, but in return, they're going to have to headcanon me giving them my money.

This.

That as well

Then you're giving up, forget about the money and think about Shepard.

If their dlc fails then they will just move on.

Taking a stand here on bsn by holding back your money wont get you anywhere, EA will just pull the plug and move on. Whose to say they will even notice "why" their dlc wont sell?

I mean BioWare probably will, but EA will just see a loss of revenue and cut it.

I don't want Mass Effect 3 being cut.

This is horse ****, everyone´s here know it - you can´t blindly hope that they will do something in our favor. Look what they done as friendly move forward to the fanbase til the release of game, EC and lies ? Sorry to say that but it was more like middlefinger movement than friendly one. Until I will see some good act from their side til then I am not going to pay them.

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 01 septembre 2012 - 03:56 .

[Conniving_Eagle]

Bioware killed Shepard. They wanted to kill Shepard.

[KENNY4753]

Baa Baa wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Changing ending by DLC is a horrible idea.

I always thought that if we were super lucky they'd release a ME4 that retconned everything past the fleet's arrival.

I think we have a better chance to win the lottery

[Baa Baa]

KENNY4753 wrote...

Baa Baa wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Changing ending by DLC is a horrible idea.

I always thought that if we were super lucky they'd release a ME4 that retconned everything past the fleet's arrival.

I think we have a better chance to win the lottery

That's what I meant by super lucky because that would be the ideal way to solve this problem, for me at least.

[jules_vern18]

So wait, we should just keep blindly shelling out cash for dlc on the off chance that eventually Bioware will "do the right thing" and make something meaningful? That's not how consumer influence works...

[Baa Baa]

I plan on buying some of the DLC's once they're all out. Mainly because I don't want to buy all of them (such as Leviathan), just whichever ones are best, like Omega has really caught my interest.

[BatmanPWNS]

Baa Baa wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Changing ending by DLC is a horrible idea.

I always thought that if we were super lucky they'd release a ME4 that retconned everything past the fleet's arrival.

As much as we hate the ending, Bioware (Or Mac/Casey at least) actually love it. So I doubt it.

[EnvyTB075]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Seeing the game as a whole is worse. Autodialogue? Fetch Quest? Journal? Side Missions? The Plot? Yeah, all of that sucks in ME3 and I'm not rewarding Bioware for mediocre.

Indeed, not sure where the impression that the only thing wrong with the game is the ending writing....