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[Oni Changas]

ShepComing4U wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

It's a good thing to hope that if you support them they will give you what you want but idk

There's no other way, sitting around being pessimistic and cyncical about everything little thing they do will only cause them to alienate themselves from us further.

It isn't the only way. Its not even a way. Buying DLC will show up as fan interest, not support. THIS WILL NOT GET YOU WHAT YOU WANT.

[skate4tacos96]

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

[TonyIommi]

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

Modifié par TonyIommi, 02 septembre 2012 - 02:21 .

[skate4tacos96]

Lol "Forums Paladins". I like that.

[MythicalStick]

Wouldn't they be Blackguards, not Paladins?

[ShepComing4U]

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

Doubtful as in Leviathan guaranteeing more sales for future DLC and seeing "little loss" The fact that you refer to anti-enders as a "handful of forum paladins" explains your assumption. Which is wrong, my good man.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

I dunno about that, even the professional review sites that said ME3 was awesome are now saying meh to Leviathan.

[ShepComing4U]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

[TonyIommi]

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

Doubtful as in Leviathan guaranteeing more sales for future DLC and seeing "little loss" The fact that you refer to anti-enders as a "handful of forum paladins" explains your assumption. Which is wrong, my good man.

Oh you have some measure of objective proof that says otherwise? I'll wait right here....

As for Leviathan, if you read Patrick Weekes latest tweet he more or less confirms more dlc is on the way and given his previous statement that if the SP DLC did well they would keep making it I think it's safe to say Leviathan has done exactly that. 

[TonyIommi]

DinoSteve wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

I dunno about that, even the professional review sites that said ME3 was awesome are now saying meh to Leviathan.

Which sites are those?  6 reviews currently exist for the dlc on metacritic and it's hardly a big enough sample size to formulate an opinion about it. I guess when reviews are good we can ignore them but when their bad well then the review sites become the most objective criticis in the universe?

Modifié par TonyIommi, 02 septembre 2012 - 02:31 .

[TonyIommi]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

Lol "Forums Paladins". I like that.

They're everywhere. If your game is popular enough and enjoys any measure of success guess what happens...

[skate4tacos96]

ShepComing4U wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

I can understand your point of view and if you don't want to buy their DLC, that's fine, everyone's entitled their own opinions. But can we all at least just stop the complaining and handle it a little bit more maturely?

[KENNY4753]

ShepComing4U wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

It shows them that we still want more though

Modifié par KENNY4753, 02 septembre 2012 - 02:37 .

[ShepComing4U]

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

Doubtful as in Leviathan guaranteeing more sales for future DLC and seeing "little loss" The fact that you refer to anti-enders as a "handful of forum paladins" explains your assumption. Which is wrong, my good man.

Oh you have some measure of objective proof that says otherwise? I'll wait right here....

As for Leviathan, if you read Patrick Weekes latest tweet he more or less confirms more dlc is on the way and given his previous statement that if the SP DLC did well they would keep making it I think it's safe to say Leviathan has done exactly that. 

You have some measure of objective proof that says anti-enders not buying DLC with only be a small loss? I'll wait right here.....

Getting to the point, Weekes tweet simply confirmed their would be another DLC. Given the fact that Leviathan was completed well before the release date, they would have had time to lay the groundwork for another DLC regardless, if not before. I'm simply saying you shouldn't assume somethign sold well and means future DLC will always sell well because of a tweet. I'm sure a good chunk of anti-enders, like me, bought Leviathan to see how Bioware was going to handle future DLC. A test run if you will. This is evidenced by the multiple threads posted throughout this forum, expressing disappointment. I have no idea why you're getting so worked up about it.

[ShepComing4U]

KENNY4753 wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

It shows them that we still want more though

It doesnt show them we want more DLC of something WE want. It shows them fans are interested in what THEY'RE doing. (All caps for emphasism!)

[ShepComing4U]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

I can understand your point of view and if you don't want to buy their DLC, that's fine, everyone's entitled their own opinions. But can we all at least just stop the complaining and handle it a little bit more maturely?

I like to think I'm handling this maturely. Anytime I post about why I dislike the ending, I include the reasons why, not just "Ending blows, Bioware blows, this entire game blows."

I get where you're coming from though.

[skate4tacos96]

TonyIommi wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

Lol "Forums Paladins". I like that.

They're everywhere. If your game is popular enough and enjoys any measure of success guess what happens...

Dude, I know exactly what you're talking about. A game comes out and gets decent reviews, but then the smallest of issues occur and all the forum paladins and keyboard ninjas come out of the woodwork to "defend their rights as customers" and all that junk. As frustrating as all that may be, you can't help but laugh about some of the ridiculous complaints you hear lol.

[KENNY4753]

ShepComing4U wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

It shows them that we still want more though

It doesnt show them we want more DLC of something WE want. It shows them fans are interested in what THEY'RE doing. (All caps for emphasism!)

I see your point. I just want to look at it in a positive way but I see what you mean.

[TonyIommi]

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

TonyIommi wrote...

Frankly if most of them stop playing I would see very little loss. BW isn't gonna stop making games or DLC, theirs enough people to support them in that. Now they can be free of the constant worry of forum paladins getting uppity over whatever design decision they chose. d

Doubtful. I think a good portion, like me, bought the DLC to see if Bioware was actually going to do something with it. Not even a cutscene in the ending, simply 400 more EMS. I wont be buying more. 

In addition, you'd see more than a little loss. Just saying.

According to Weekes latest tweet we will be seeing more dlc. So it's definetly not "doubtful" and the dlc has been extremely well received regardless of what the handful of forums paladins argue. 

Doubtful as in Leviathan guaranteeing more sales for future DLC and seeing "little loss" The fact that you refer to anti-enders as a "handful of forum paladins" explains your assumption. Which is wrong, my good man.

Oh you have some measure of objective proof that says otherwise? I'll wait right here....

As for Leviathan, if you read Patrick Weekes latest tweet he more or less confirms more dlc is on the way and given his previous statement that if the SP DLC did well they would keep making it I think it's safe to say Leviathan has done exactly that. 

You have some measure of objective proof that says anti-enders not buying DLC with only be a small loss? I'll wait right here.....

Getting to the point, Weekes tweet simply confirmed their would be another DLC. Given the fact that Leviathan was completed well before the release date, they would have had time to lay the groundwork for another DLC regardless, if not before. I'm simply saying you shouldn't assume somethign sold well and means future DLC will always sell well because of a tweet. I'm sure a good chunk of anti-enders, like me, bought Leviathan to see how Bioware was going to handle future DLC. A test run if you will. This is evidenced by the multiple threads posted throughout this forum, expressing disappointment. I have no idea why you're getting so worked up about it.

Theirs also multiple threads across this forum and other forums expressing how good the dlc was. I'm not worked up about it but i am pointing out that you make cases for things that have no evidence and then just assume their gospel truth. The fact is that generally forum voices and negative voices are always the most vocal and are in no way evidence of anything.  This has been studied by marketing firms the world over. Your arguments are all based on assumptions that "your sure" about. 

I'm not the one making assumptions here. I'm going by what the developers say, You've made all sorts of assumptions and frankly it's ironic that you would call me out on that note.  Weekes has said that if DLC was succesful they would make more. He then said in a tweet later that we can be assured they are making more ergo it's been fairly succesfull. Thats not PROOF but it's is a reasonable conclusion to draw from his statements. 

Modifié par TonyIommi, 02 septembre 2012 - 02:52 .

[corkey sweet]

i think i'll keep my 10 bucks

[skate4tacos96]

@ShepComing4U You actually are handling this very maturely, but I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was talking about all the "forum paladins" (I freakin' love that term lol) that want so much change, but all they do is complain about it. It's so annoying.

[ShepComing4U]

KENNY4753 wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

ShepComing4U wrote...

skate4tacos96 wrote...

KENNY4753 wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

People WANT to give them a second chance. It just gets drowned out by all the hate.

100% true

Deep down inside, people still have faith in BioWare. They just don't want to admit it because everyone loves to jump in the complain/hate wagon. I definitely still have hope in BioWare, and I'll admit it freely. They don't need childish whining, but mature questions and answers.

I have hope for Bioware, just not a lot of it. Regardless, buying DLC to get them to make DLC we want isn't how it works, and I certainly wont encourage it.

It shows them that we still want more though

It doesnt show them we want more DLC of something WE want. It shows them fans are interested in what THEY'RE doing. (All caps for emphasism!)

I see your point. I just want to look at it in a positive way but I see what you mean.

I'm not telling you to boycott DLC or start being a pessimist or anything. If you think a DLC is interesting and looks fun, by all means buy it! Its your opinion that matters, I'm just telling you the way I look at it.

[TJBartlemus]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


People need to stop holding their wallets and start supporting this company if they ever want anything in regards to the endings changed.

There is absolutely NOTHING stopping them from cutting their losses and running, cancelling future dlc plans.

I don't know about you, but I REALLY don't want to see that happen!

In fact, I would rather support them on blind faith and optimism alone, hoping that they will listen and fix this with future dlc. But for that to happen, people need to get off their "youtube" horses and show BioWare how much you want a better ending for Shepard and for Mass Effect too.

Because at the end of the day, they hold all the cards.

In the same way we all banded together to "hold the line", we need to band together once again to show BioWare just how far we're willing to go. Sure, this blind faith might be a bit dellusional, but I know for a fact that 'holding the wallet', is not going to do anything but bad things.

Agreed and +10000000000. BioWare is like the parent and we are the whinning child that didn't get their way. BioWare isn't going to be moved by whinning or pouting or being frustrating. Both sides will get what they want if they are supportive of each other. I am not saying to buy everything they sell but not buying to prove a point will not be productive at all. 

If you don't like the ending of the game, look at it in a different perspective like IT or WNT. Or just don't play the game and be done with it...whatever, but if you care about BioWare and want more games from them holding your wallet with a iron fist is not productive. 

Just my 2 cents on the matter.

[KENNY4753]

ShepComing4U wrote...
I'm not telling you to boycott DLC or start being a pessimist or anything. If you think a DLC is interesting and looks fun, by all means buy it! Its your opinion that matters, I'm just telling you the way I look at it.

I don't want to arguing with you. That's what I have always done. If it looks good I will get it if not I won't. I'm just saying that it would be nice if they would see dlc sales as support and give us what we want.

[Rogue Unit]

skate4tacos96 wrote...

@ShepComing4U You actually are handling this very maturely, but I wasn't talking about you specifically. I was talking about all the "forum paladins" (I freakin' love that term lol) that want so much change, but all they do is complain about it. It's so annoying.

and those same "forum paladins" got you free DLC with all their "complaining"