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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 07:21

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Change, definitely. Having a refugee running around with a small child in a warzone filled with Reapers who want to kill you and goo you leaves alot of implications as to how mother and child got there in the first place. It'll take some pretty slick writing and scen setting to set that up.


No, I mean keep my original idea for Javik, or use your instead


Well, if we went with the idea of a mission hub at the base we could introduce a mission where Anderson directs Shepard to evacuate refugee's he's stashed in a zone that's going to become a battleground. Add reports of collector esque Reapers having been spotted in that area and you have a made for Javik mission. Add some dialogue about how the rest of your squad has had to head off on other missions it could be a Shep and Javik solo act. This would give alot of scope story wise for the player to accept Javik's view in life, i.e. be heartless and focus on the mission regardless of the cost, or challange him to overcome his rage. Sorta similar in the way Zaeed had to go kill the bad guy or save the civvies.


I don't think a shep + javik act would work since his dlc is self-contained. People would be annoyed at missing out on a whole mission if they decide they don't want to buy from ashes.

However, the base idea works. What if there was a mission where you can only take one crew member with you, and they all react differently to the citizens? Thing is i don't know that any of them wouldn't go to save them...


Taking the base mission hub idea forward a bit. How about having a mission for each squad member? Garrus could go with Shep in a mission that focuses on seeing how the Turians fight. Tali could go with Shep to see how Quarians deal with the assault. Edi could be the Geth viewpoint.

One of the things I like about squadmates is that they bring their own viewpoints with them. When Geth talk about the consensus and how their intelligence dims I just nodded and went with it. It wasn't till I ended up inside the consensus and shut it down that I saw what Legion was getting at. These mini adventures can be roller coaster rides. But making them something where you come away a little wiser as to who your squad mate is, is one of the marks of why ME has been so successful. Vega definitely needs a treatment like this as he has to get over losing his ppl and choose his future in the military.


I think that if we start to add in actual gameplay to the mission, the dlc would get way too big. Bear in mind that this would take 7 whole new missions, in addition to everything else.

Maybe one or two new missions, but 7 is probably asking for too much

Modifié par Flog61, 09 septembre 2012 - 07:32 .

#277
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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 07:24

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Christ almighty, just give it up already.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 07:29

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Redbelle wrote...

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I'm sure Morinth was happy with her makeover. The post op plastic surgery was a bit of a flop but the cranial aerial recievers work and Earth's wi-fi is terrific!


She still managed to apply her make-up better than ashley...


How about a mission to the processing vats and discovering that despite what the Asari say Morinth did reproduce and has a daughter. It will drive BW crazy but turnabout is fair play.

Anyway. Morinth doesn't actually have to be alive for a mission. It just has to tie in with her. BW killed her, with alittle help from from me and a Cain....... <cough> finger slipped, honest <cough> but to have a mission that ties into some part of her life does not neccessarily have to retcon anything. Her death could lead Shepard to go all CSI again as in Leviathan and bring back Sherlock Shepard


It could in theory take place before the endings, but then it wouldn't be part of the priority earth mission :P

I think a CSI thing again would detract from the pace of priority earth a bit, too

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 07:31

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jodlaurie wrote...

Christ almighty, just give it up already.


I think you may be in the wrong thread. This is a thread for SUPPORTERS of this kind of dlc. You are free to make your own thread for people who do not support it.

Bye.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:17

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Would you be interested in including my Rachni example?

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:23

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Yup. I'd so buy this. *Supports*

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:24

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I would spend quite a bit of money for this.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:28

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The only parts I disagree with are

-Grunt dying when Wrex is still alive
-Kirrahe (kinda), since it's unfair for the PS3 players, but I don't care about them :P
-Javik's sacrifice since he should know what life is without the threat of the Reapers
-Tali's part is a little bit corny for my taste

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:42

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genocidal villain wrote...

The only parts I disagree with are

-Grunt dying when Wrex is still alive
-Kirrahe (kinda), since it's unfair for the PS3 players, but I don't care about them :P
-Javik's sacrifice since he should know what life is without the threat of the Reapers
-Tali's part is a little bit corny for my taste


Grunt dying and Javik's sacrifice are the part I disagree the most. Everything else look great to me.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:49

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N7_Prothean95 wrote...

genocidal villain wrote...

The only parts I disagree with are

-Grunt dying when Wrex is still alive
-Kirrahe (kinda), since it's unfair for the PS3 players, but I don't care about them :P
-Javik's sacrifice since he should know what life is without the threat of the Reapers
-Tali's part is a little bit corny for my taste


Grunt dying and Javik's sacrifice are the part I disagree the most. Everything else look great to me.


Grunt doesn't die if wrex is alive. Wrex making a statue of him, doesn't mean he died then.

And i know what you mean about Javik, but i thought that it fitted well for his character, especially if you give him the memory shard. He says he will commit suicide anyway, and I think that he would prefer a glorious death in battle.

And the whole POINT is that this whole thing is chorny and cheesy! Because that's how satisfying things end! We didn't need a whole philosophical debate at the end of me3. We wanted a glorious battle, full of our allies kicking the enemies butts. It's hard to do that well WITHOUT being a bit corny :P

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:50

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Ah, this thread is alive and well I see :) I agree that Javik's example is in for some adjusting. Indeed, have him come out alive if certain criteria are met. Kasumi's example with the rose is indeed fantastic. Good job Flog!

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:50

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Irockz wrote...

Would you be interested in including my Rachni example?


I will, give me some time though, lots of schoolwork ^^

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:54

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Not a fan of the Javik one but I support the rest. However you may wish to include a scenario of what happens if Kirrahe dies in ME3. (If Thane isn't talked to or died, Kirrahe is killed by Kai Leng defending the Salarian councilor)

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:56

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A DLC that adds some Priority earth depth would be nice.

Maybe a few preparatory sabotage missions to draw reapers forces out of position, and gather intel to be used to improve the gameplay of the London mission, adding more storytelling to it and... make it reactive to what you bring and what you do.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:57

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Will us scumbags who kept Mordin alive in ME3 get some Mordin-awesome to oggle at?

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:57

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I would pay upwards of $20 for suicide mission 2.0 to be added onto Priority Earth.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:58

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obZen DF wrote...

Ah, this thread is alive and well I see :) I agree that Javik's example is in for some adjusting. Indeed, have him come out alive if certain criteria are met. Kasumi's example with the rose is indeed fantastic. Good job Flog!


Hey obzen *waves*

Yes, Javik's example will be updated soon.

See, Bioware? People gave their opinions about my creation, I respected the majority, and am changing it. No artistic integrity nonsense.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 08:59

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Volc19 wrote...

Will us scumbags who kept Mordin alive in ME3 get some Mordin-awesome to oggle at?


You let wrex and eve die, 
You have your punishment, deal with it :P

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:00

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Volc19 wrote...

Will us scumbags who kept Mordin alive in ME3 get some Mordin-awesome to oggle at?


Absolutely, bu I will need some help/ideas. I'm not sure what I could do with him.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:03

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Gogzilla wrote...

I would pay upwards of $20 for suicide mission 2.0 to be added onto Priority Earth.


I may well include something like this at the FOB, for the bulk of all the armies as well as the starships. It will require a lot of thinking though, so it may take a while ^^

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:05

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darthnick427 wrote...

Not a fan of the Javik one but I support the rest. However you may wish to include a scenario of what happens if Kirrahe dies in ME3. (If Thane isn't talked to or died, Kirrahe is killed by Kai Leng defending the Salarian councilor)


Javik's will be improved, maybe completely re-done.

I think the salarian bodies lying alone in the basement is enough of a part for if he died, from a metagaming perspective.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:11

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Flog61 wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Ah, this thread is alive and well I see :) I agree that Javik's example is in for some adjusting. Indeed, have him come out alive if certain criteria are met. Kasumi's example with the rose is indeed fantastic. Good job Flog!


Hey obzen *waves*

Yes, Javik's example will be updated soon.

See, Bioware? People gave their opinions about my creation, I respected the majority, and am changing it. No artistic integrity nonsense.


Oh really,  So your open to criticisim and change

While i agree with you in idea

I think most of your choices were pretty boring and straight forward and attempted to wrap things up in a pretty package.

Some of the key bits were there but really , its just such a wink and nod to everything that was ever mentioned, it takes any imagination or interpretation i might have had out of it.

Frankly i think you should reconsider and rework the whole dam thing.

Now imagine if you got 1,000,000 contadicting opinnions claiming to all want the same things, 
All the while you were trying to make your own thing.

you really should not trivialise it.
Your not proving a point, just fanning the embers of dead rant.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:15

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If Bioware is reading this, I'll state (again) that I'd buy DLC like this, that added to and changed the ending(s). The EC was a tiny step in the right direction, I'll help financially support further steps. In a perfect world, these would be free, but I understand the need to feed your employee's.

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:16

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Gogzilla wrote...

Flog61 wrote...

obZen DF wrote...

Ah, this thread is alive and well I see :) I agree that Javik's example is in for some adjusting. Indeed, have him come out alive if certain criteria are met. Kasumi's example with the rose is indeed fantastic. Good job Flog!


Hey obzen *waves*

Yes, Javik's example will be updated soon.

See, Bioware? People gave their opinions about my creation, I respected the majority, and am changing it. No artistic integrity nonsense.


Oh really,  So your open to criticisim and change

While i agree with you in idea

I think most of your choices were pretty boring and straight forward and attempted to wrap things up in a pretty package.

Some of the key bits were there but really , its just such a wink and nod to everything that was ever mentioned, it takes any imagination or interpretation i might have had out of it.

Frankly i think you should reconsider and rework the whole dam thing.

Now imagine if you got 1,000,000 contadicting opinnions claiming to all want the same things, 
All the while you were trying to make your own thing.

you really should not trivialise it.
Your not proving a point, just fanning the embers of dead rant.





Well..the whole point was that it IS  a wink and nod to everything. It makes the me franchise feel wrapped up. Things like 'Get up cheerleader' are excellent ways of tying up small storylines, such and jack and miranda's rivalry.

And read what I said properly: 'I respected the majority'

I will change something if there is high demand for it. There is not high demand for me re-working the whole thingg, and so I won't.


If you think my ideas are so awful, maybe go and make your own thread...?

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Posté 09 septembre 2012 - 09:23

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Flog61 wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

Not a fan of the Javik one but I support the rest. However you may wish to include a scenario of what happens if Kirrahe dies in ME3. (If Thane isn't talked to or died, Kirrahe is killed by Kai Leng defending the Salarian councilor)


Javik's will be improved, maybe completely re-done.

I think the salarian bodies lying alone in the basement is enough of a part for if he died, from a metagaming perspective.


I agree.  Just making sure all the possiblities are covered :)

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