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'I Fight for Closure' [OFFICIAL WAR ASSET CLOSURE AND PRIORITY:EARTH OVERHAUL SUPPORT THREAD] (Miranda's banner now up - details inside on how to get your custom banner!))


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there are two ways bioware could go, both with potential, a priority Earth DLC as you suggest or a searching for Shepard DLC, i don't know which i would prefer. However if neither is done it will be a disappointing lost opportunity

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Is it fair to say that the minimum we're asking for is an extension/reunion destroy ending?

Many of us want a flat out alternate ending and wouldn't mind paying for it. Heck you could have "THIS IS NOT THE REAL ENDING!" scrolling at the bottom of the screen throughout and we would still love it. However like I said right now it seems the minimum many people are asking for is a reunion following the breath scene.

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How did I only just now stumble upon this thread? That was an amazing read, but also highly depressing when I think about what could have been. I seriously doubt we will get that level of closure and satisfaction, but I support this wholeheartedly.

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im deff in this idea until it dies! or the world ends

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happysideoffear777 wrote...

im deff in this idea until it dies! or the world ends


Not long to go ;)

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Was hoping for something related to this over christmas, but hey ho, we march on.

Let's get more people to see this again.

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Flog61 wrote...

Hi everyone,

So this is a thread for people who would like some kind of dlc which shows scenes of our war assets fighting, as well as several new missions for priority: Earth

Please feel free to give me ideas for the 'Possible examples' section; just write the premise of that particular cutscene in the thread and I'll write something up :)

So, down to buisness:

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*THE PROBLEM*

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The final mission of mass effect, the moment the whole series built up to....

Was far worse than the ending of me2, which only 1 game built up to.

In short, as it stands, Priority Earth is...well...pants. Utter rubbish.

However, through the additions detailed ahead, I really feel that priority earth could be the epic mission it was supposed to be; it could be the best mission in the whole of mass effect; better than the suicide mission, better than virmire, better than tali Treason, better than the genophage arc.

And so we come to...

THE SOLUTION

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*PREMISE*
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A dlc, probably paid for, which simply adds cutsscenes, new missions and additional support to the current missions, to Priority Earth, which would give us the oppurtunity to see our war assets fighting. This includes ex-squadmates (maybe current ones, but they aren't technically war assets), and armies (perhaps starships, but only in passing, we don't need to see a minute long cutscene about them)

The great thing about this is: It gives us the perfect form of closure! Would you rather have a video of zaeed being awesome to epic music, or a picture still?

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*LOGICAL EFFECTS OF MISSIONS*
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This is very simple.

Stopped the reapers from making more ravagers with Aralahk company? Fewer ravagers in the final battle.

Stopped the banshees on Lesuss? Fewer banshees in the final battle.


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*POSSIBLE EXAMPLES*

Now, some of these are far more detailed than we can realistically expect; however, this is more a way of showing how easily bioware could make all of the decisions come together, even in short cutscenes at the end.

The final versions of these will be cut a lot, but it is better to start out too detailed than not detailed enough Image IPB

The most detailed of these will focus on ME2 squadmates because they deserve a lot more closure than they have.




1. Miranda and Jack

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It starts with Miranda fighting off mounds of husks, swarming around her. However, they gradually begin to overwhelm her.
 
*scene finishes here if jack is dead*

Then jack hits the husks with a huge shockwave, she runs over to miranda, giver her her hand and says 'Get up, cheerleader'. The two stand back to back and fight. Two things can happen next:

a)*If jack's students are on support roles*:

The two are holding their own, but a harvester swoops down upon them, blasting them with it's cannon. Miranda and Jack's barriers do little to protect them, but Jack's squad manages to erect a powerful enough barrier to protect themselves. However, soon they become exhausted, and just as the harvester begins to falter, a blast breaks through the barrier and strikes down jack.

Blasting the harvester to death with a final warp, miranda pulls jack onto her shoulders, and runs towards the students behind the front line. Seeing she needed extra help, student Rodriguez breaks line and runs to help them. She manages to get them to safety behind the front line, but is struck by a shot. Jack begins to wake up, but it is too late for rodriguez. She dies in jack's arms, with jack comforting her.

B) *If jack's students are on artillery*

The two are holding their own, but a harvester swoops down upon them, blasting them with it's cannon. Jack's squad focus their attention on the harvester, and smash it out of the air with biotics.

However, this display attracts reaper forces, and they fight against brute after brute, banshee after banshee sent after them. Eventually, they all fall to the reaper forces, Jack looking on, crying as her students are killed, but is also proud, as they managed to destroy enough reaper forces to help significantly in the retaking of earth.

This means there are fewer boss level enemies that shepard has to fight during Priority: Earth.




2. Grunt


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Grunt has been sent by Wrex/Wreav to command a small squad of krogan and get them to the beam. They plough a trench through hordes of ravagers and cannibals, before stumbling upon a gigantic nest of ravagers. He and his squad charge right in, but as they make their way to the middle, grunt realizes it is too much for his squad. Seeing each member of his team fall just drives him on further and further, until all that remains is a pile of ravager corpses. Grinning to himself, he turns around, only to be grabbed by a brute towering over him.

a) *If Wreav is leading the krogan*

Although not much of a diplomat, Wreav excelled in the battlefield. The main horde of the krogan has already managed to get near the beam, however, Wreav sees grunt being held up by a huge brown mass, and he immediately orders his remaining soldiers to save him. The reaper forces are no match for the krogan, and just as it is preparing to slam Grunt into the ground, the brute is hit by multiple claymore blasts on all sides, and collapses.

Grunt gets up, and laughs, walking back to his warlord.

B) *If Wrex is leading the krogan*

Although a fantastic diplomat and a great example for his people, Wrex, is an even better soldier. He and his soldiers crush all oncoming reapers, only suffering 3 casualties. He sees Grunt hanging in the air by the claw of a brute, and charges right at it, roaring, destroying it before it could even growl, Grunt jumping back to his feet, covered in blood and laughing

For the sacrifice of his squad and his unwavering bravery, Wrex vows to make Grunt a symbol for his people, and goes on to erect a huge statue of him in the new capital of Tuchanka. Every day the krogan will see the statue; and so every day they will be reminded to strive to push their people to even greater heights.

c) *If the genophage wasn't cured, and as a result Wrex was killed, leaving the krogan leaderless*

Lacking any kind of support, Grunt cannot do anything to save himself as he is slammed into the ground by the brute, and he dies.




3. Samara

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Samara and her team of justicars turn up while you are defending the missile battery. They protect your squad with a bubble (ala suicide mission and MP) which significantly reduces any damage you take.

When you activate the first missiles, a brute runs up to you from behind, but Samara sees it, and using the full might of her incredible biotic power, lifts it up and smashes it into a group of cannibals, reducing the number of enemies you must fight next.

However, after this she and her team must move on, and so you are left to defend the second battery without the additional help. She wishes shepard good luck.




4. Zaeed Massani


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Zaeed has been chosen to go towards the beam alondside the merc armies. A blue suns merc corners him at the FOB, just before the final push.
 
'Zaeed Massani?'

He then says:
 
a) *If you killed vido* You killed our leader. And they expect me to follow you? Bollocks to that.'

B) *If vido survived zaeed's mission* Vido told us to watch out for you. To never trust you. And they expect me to follow you? Bollocks to that.

Zaeed then slams the merc into the wall, arm across his neck. ' You stupid son of a ****. There's a goddam war going on. You keep looking backward and you'll be dead before you can say 'mummy'. So you can leave, and die, or come with me and become the bloody hero you think you are . It's your goddam choice.'

He walks off, rifle in hand. He then mutters: 'Right. Lets send these goddam reapers back to the hole they crawled out of.' and charges into the oncoming horde, yelling, the merc army close behind him.




5. Kasumi Goto

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*On a Crucible ship carrying scientists and tech experts*

Remnant troops of Cerberus attack this vessel in order to make a suicide attack on the crucible, damaging it beyond use. They slaughter every scientist and guard on the station and the leader of these Cerberus troops enters the cockpit to set the ship on intercept trajectory wth the Crucible.

An alliance ship boards Crucible ship, but when troops rush onto the bridge, they find nothing but corpses littering their feet.

The cerberus leader get up from the navigation chair to find a gun pointing at his head, held by a woman concealed in the shadows.

The woman says 'Looks like you attacked the wrong ship today. Woopsie! You should be more careful next time.'

The alliance troops hear a gunshot from the cockpit, and they rush to it to find the body of the leader lying next to the chair, and they notice that the ship is no longer on intercept trajectory. A single rose lies upon the leader's body.

They look around, puzzled, and the camera zooms out, and you see the edge of Kasumi's face, half concealed by her hood. She smirks, before cloaking.




6. Shiala and the Feros Colonists

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During the turret portion of the FOB section, you see a small group of civilians at the opposite  end of the road.

*If the Feros colonists and/or Shiala are dead*

An onslaught of enemies hone in on them, and it is very difficult to save them with the turret. One of them will have a scripted death, being impaled by a banshee which charges right into them.

*If the Feros colonists AND Shiala are alive*

A group of enemies approaches the civilians, and just as Shepard jumps onto the turret, but before he/she can even fire a single shot, Shiala smashes a wall of a nearby bulding down with her powerful biotics and a team of her colonists rush out, yelling.
 
Due to their ability to sense each other, as left over by the thorian, they form an extremely effective team, drawing attention away from the civilians, and destroying the reapers without even a single casualty.

As her squad helps the civilians back to the FOB, Shiala looks up at Shepard, and gives a warm smile, which shepard reciprocates, before following her team into the FOB.
 


7. Major Kirrahe

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After the FOB, when you reach the car park with all the brutes, you find Kirrahe and a squad of salarians fighting there. You join them, and when you finish the combat, you enter dialogue with him. He Talks about the mission, and mentions how he lost Commander Rentola earlier on.

Suddenly a brute smashes through the wall, knocking away shepard and kirrahe’s squads, leaving shepard lying on the floor . A banshee enters, and picks up Shepard lifting him up to eye level.

Major Kirrahe then charges at the banshee, managing to collide with it so hard that he knocks shepard out of the banshee’s arms. He then takes out his scorpion and fires all 4 shots onto the banshee’s head. He picks up shepard and walks away from the banshee, before the explosion blows its head off.

Placing the commander on his feet, he salutes shepard. ‘Always a pleasure, commander’ he says, before walking away with the remainder of his team
 
If kirrahe died in me1, then you will find a group of salarian bodies, as a shoutout to those who played me1, but didn’t manage to save Kirrahe.
 

*THE FOLLOWING EXAMPLES TAKE PLACES IF YOU DO NOT TAKE THE PARTICULAR SQUADMATE ON THE FINAL EARTH MISSION* 
8. Javik

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Javik has been placed in charge of a small squad, aiming to place a bomb in a building which, when detonated,  would block an area of no-man’s land, in turn impeding the movement of reaper ground troops severely.

Javik manages to reach the building with his squad, but when they place the bomb they receive a patchy message from commander Anderson; there is no way to effectively detonate the bomb from range because a combination of the reaper’s signals, and the high number of signals already being sent around London. The squad looks among themselves, but Javik volunteers to manually detonate the bomb.

They protest, but he says ‘You…your race is…alive. The fight for your kind is not yet lost; allow me to die here and honour the sacrifice made by everyone who was dear to my heart. You…warriors. You must destroy the reapers, you must stop the cycle. Make sure no race suffers, as our’s have, ever again. Make us proud to have died so that you may live.’

The squad looks at each other. ‘GO!’ Javik yells. They leave, and javik waits until they are gone. Reaper troops have now entered the building.

*If you told Javik to use his memory shard earlier, he takes it out, looks down at it and smiles*

Just as a Brute charges into the room, with cannibals on either side. Javik raises his eyes, and laughs. ‘Looks like you failed to kill ALL the protheans, reapers’. He presses the detonator, and the scene cuts to black.


 
9. Tali, the Quarians, and the Geth. (Parts only seen with the geth will be in square brackets [x])

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Tali, as the most combat effective member of the admiralty board, was selected at the FOB to be in charge of the Quarian [and Geth] ground forces during the push to the beam. She leads them well, showing obvious qualities of Shepard’s leadership that she has picked up after being so long under his command.

[The Geth and Quarians work together extremely well: The geth’s logical and quick reasoning working together with the quarian’s undying loyalty to each member of their squad gained after spending years with them in a small space.]

They fight up to the side of a building; the door to which is locked. She rushes to hack it, ordering her team to guard her. A similar scene to ‘Holding the line’ from the suicide mission ensues. When the door is unlocked, she calls her troops over to her, but she sees that they are struggling, even with the geth’s power.

A banshee picks up one of Tali’s quarian teammates and impales him. Tali lets out a scream of anguish, and, finding a geth plasma shotgun on the ground, screams, while charging up to the banshee: ‘No-one….kills…anyone… under…my…leadership…you….little…Bosh’tet!!!’

In one smooth movement, she calls out Chiktikka, overloads the banshees barrier, and fires her gun, just as a rocket from Chiktikka collides with the banshee. It dies at her feet as her troops fall back to the door. She looks at the banshee, and then at her fallen comrade, hesiting for a moment before moving back to the door.
 
She then opens the door, and comes face to face with a Brute standing right behind the door, which roars in her face.

*If peace is made between the Quarians and the Geth*

Tali quickly backs away, but trips over some concrete. The brute then towers over her, but before the brute can damage her, rockets from multiple geth primes smash into it, obliterating it in a shower of fire before Tali’s eyes.

A geth trooper runs up to her on the ground, looks at her for a moment, and slowly extends a hand.
Tali pauses, then accepts it gladly, and it pulls her up. She then runs into the building with her troops.

*If the Geth lost the war*

The brute picks up tali, and smashes her against a wall once, and draws her back to do it again, before her team manage to take it down in bursts of fire and ice.

Tali is limp on the ground, and tries to get up, but her arm slips on her blood. The team run up to her, and help her up, calling in for an evac. Tali tries to argue ‘You….will not take me from here you…you…’ but she cannot muster any more energy and lowers her head as she is helped into a shuttle by the quarians.

She looks at them before it takes off, and says ‘Make…make me proud. Keelah Se’lai’

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*CONTRIBUTORS*

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My sincere thanks to:

IsaacShep, for the idea of having war assets being seen during missions, fighting along shep.

Darthnick427, for help in the overhaul of Grunt's example.

ObZen DF, for the idea for Zaeed's example.

Funkdrspot, for the idea to include the *Logical effects of Missions* section.

Soja57, for the inofficial thread banner on page 4.

Huzzahfortimelines,
for helping with the Samara section.

Mr Cloud, for the 'Get up, cheerleader' line, and the idea of Kasumi leaving a rose.

Misterhook, for the picture for Tali's example

Mr Massakka, for our great banners below



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*Character specific banners*

Here is an example of a custom character banner; miranda's

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If you want a Priority Earth banner incuding your character, PM: Mr Massakka, and he will be happy to make one for you!


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I think this kind of thing would give us exactly the kind of closure we need.

So, only one question remains:


Do you fight for closure?

This topic was brought up before on this page social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11404188/1 take a look also I agree as long as 3 things are improved/added 1 bigger and/or longer space battles 2 fix tali relationship with john and 3 make the war assets and ems worth something for a prototype combine this one and the other one?

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TC, I would love BioWare to ramp up Priority: Earth with war assets and ME2 crew members everywhere, along with an even higher EMS required true reunion with the crew. The only problem is that it will never happen.

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In my wildest dreams, Bioware would just take CD Projeck's strategy and release an entire directors cut of the game. (Though if need be charge money for it)

Expand Earth to involve the war assets and more importantly all the companions and major characters. Bring back the canceled war asset assignment system that was in the leaked script and so forth. Do Tali justice by making an in-game model for her face. Give the ME2 romances a bit more content. Expand the refusal ending to involve a possible conventional victory (at high costs like say sacrificing the Citadel and requires maxed out war assets to pull off).  Reunion scene for any endings that Shepard survives.  Add all the multiplayer skills as bonus powers (and maybe allow selection of more then one). And whatever else they may want to do, add, fix, change, etc.

I would pay for that in a heart beat. Even if it meant rebuying the full game at $60, I would do it if it was that expansive.

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BleedingUranium

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Return Of The King finale, that is all.

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CARL_DF90

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Oh, I really, REALLY hope that his happens, although at this stage it seems unlikely. Still, this has my support!

Modifié par CARL_DF90, 09 janvier 2013 - 03:03 .


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BioWare thanks you for your feedback.

- If we're real lucky, some parts of this will end up in some other game some 4 or 5 years from now. Yay!

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 09 janvier 2013 - 03:40 .


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My faith in Bioware's ability to listen to people vanished when the EC did little to correct the mistakes made with the original endings.

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This would be awesome, but that is not what Bioware is going for. Too...."Video Gamey"

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^I'm in love with your signature...^

edit: Dammit Kildren!

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@ JadeShepard

It's okay. Thank you very much for the complement! I also happen to love this gem of yours as well.

"A Candle loses nothing of its light by lighting another candle."

It's beautiful!

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JadeShepard wrote...

^I'm in love with your signature...^

edit: Dammit Kildren!


Terribly sorry about that.

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Man, does this thread still exist!!!

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Never give up the hope-

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Never, give up hope :)

@Carl, thank you very much :)

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I like this idea but for me I would just want a possiblity to make it to the beam without getting blown to hell. At the very least if we wasted the entire game gathering these war assets some of them could buy me and my squadmates enough time to make it to the beam. [***Mild SPOILER ALERT***] You can not tell me that the combination of the geth prime platoon, elcor warriors, Volus bombing fleet, Leviathan's thralls, and the badass multiplayer characters we played as and brought our military readiness to 100% in all sectors can't be effective cannon fodder long enough for us to make it to the beam!!!!

That way we can still have the endings that they gave us but we have more feedback from our squadmates and can stick it to the illusive man without killing Anderson.

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JadeShepard wrote...

Never, give up hope :)

@Carl, thank you very much :)


Anytime my friend. Anytime! B)

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This would be lovely. Kind of what I expected from the ending before playing it. Like how awesome the SM was in ME2. :)

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This is actually pretty good. While I find it unlikely that this will be addressed I would pay for a DLC that does what your post says :)

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This would be sweet.