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[F3ralCr]

So I've seen two handed axes, one handed axes, greatswords, longswords, and shortswords but not a single dagger.

All the shortsword are called "daggers" but I've yet to see one. I suppose only the PC users will be able to experience daggers through mods, eh?

[Lord Phoebus]

Yeah, the "daggers" are about a 1.5 to 2 feet in length, which makes them shortswords. All the weapons have huge hilts too. I suppose it's so the animations look better.

[sinosleep]

Quite a few daggers measured over a foot long throughout history. If you do your research you'll come to find out that most daggers weren't what you would equate with a pocket knife. And with that said, it's a videogame, everything is oversized.

[Kalcalan]

sinosleep wrote...

Quite a few daggers measured over a foot long throughout history. If you do your research you'll come to find out that most daggers weren't what you would equate with a pocket knife. And with that said, it's a videogame, everything is oversized.

I wanted to type the exact same thing. A dagger is not necessarily a butter knife or a letter opener.

[JJM152]

sinosleep wrote...

Quite a few daggers measured over a foot long throughout history. If you do your research you'll come to find out that most daggers weren't what you would equate with a pocket knife. And with that said, it's a videogame, everything is oversized.

Correct on both counts

A "dagger" is technically just a double bladed knife!  What classifies as a dagger and it's appearance is mostly a cultural thing. For instance, a Roman Pugio would generally have a blade that was only 6 to 10 inches long, but 5 inches wide while a Japanese Tanto would have a longer blade (a foot or more) but only 2 inches wide.

Anyway, as sinosleep said, it's a video game. If it wasn't, fighting a guy in plate armor with a giant sword would be a bad idea if you were armed with just "daggers". :innocent:

Modifié par JJM152, 25 décembre 2009 - 12:17 .

[F3ralCr]

I'm not so sure that daggers were quite that large. I am well aware that some daggers are about a foot or two long but, traditionally, I'm of the impression that daggers are supposed to be concealable weapons.



Also, I don't think "it's a video game" is a very good response. The only video game I've played that had retardedly oversized things was Fable. Also, I expect a bit more from Black Isle/Bioware after such successes (when it comes to daggers ) as BG, NWN, and Fallout.

[F3ralCr]

JJM152 wrote...


Anyway, as sinosleep said, it's a video game. If it wasn't, fighting a guy in plate armor with a giant sword would be a bad idea if you were armed with just "daggers". :innocent:

Magic!

[JJM152]

Well, if the Fereldan's call them daggers, who are we to say they're wrong?

PS: Daggers aren't really meant to be concealable (or at least that's not their original intended purpose).

For instance, the ancient Romans would usually be equipped with a scuta (shield), several pila (javelins/spears), a gladius (a 2 1/2 foot long sword) and a pugia (about a 7 to 11 inch long dagger). The pugia was just meant for close, really close fighting because you only needed to get about 2 inches of it into someone in a good spot to kill them (it has a very wide, leafed blade).

Modifié par JJM152, 25 décembre 2009 - 12:22 .

[Lord Phoebus]

Still most daggers are in the 6 to 14 inch blade length range. When you have blades that are two thirds the length of your character's arm, you're stretching that definition. When you consider that the daggers of DA:O should be modelled on Dirks, Misericordes and Main-Gauches the daggers are too long.

[JJM152]

Lord Phoebus wrote...
 When you consider that the daggers of DA:O should be modelled on Dirks, Misericordes and Main-Gauches the daggers are too long.

It's a fantasy world, who's to say what they should call things?

[Forumtroll]

A dagger is not necessarily a concealed weapon, a concealed weapon is a concealed weapon. Like the guy me said.

[Bathead]

sinosleep wrote...

Quite a few daggers measured over a foot long throughout history. If you do your research you'll come to find out that most daggers weren't what you would equate with a pocket knife. And with that said, it's a videogame, everything is oversized.

That's what SHE said! Woof!

Modifié par Bathead, 25 décembre 2009 - 02:42 .

[Dasim4]

Bathead wrote...

sinosleep wrote...

Quite a few daggers measured over a foot long throughout history. If you do your research you'll come to find out that most daggers weren't what you would equate with a pocket knife. And with that said, it's a videogame, everything is oversized.

That's what SHE said! Woof!

Is that your dagger or are you just happy to see me.

[metatheurgist]

Could be worse.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Is that a knife? That's not a knife, this is a knife!



What you perceive as daggers is what is referred to in DAO as the stabbity knife of doom

Yes they are similar to what is referred to as short swords in other games, but as others have said this isn't one of those other games.

THIS... IS... THEDAS!

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 25 décembre 2009 - 11:27 .

[TypoPanther]

Of course, we can't forget the famous "kill knife"

[Lord Abrasion]

sinosleep wrote...

Quite a few daggers measured over a foot long throughout history. If you do your research you'll come to find out that most daggers weren't what you would equate with a pocket knife. And with that said, it's a videogame, everything is oversized.

Oversized indeed. Seems to be a habit Bioware has picked up. Just look at the thermos-sized lightsaber hilts in SWTOR