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[Dark_Enclave33]

It's fine the way it is u just gotten know how to spec it out...leave it alone u crybabies that want to nerf this and nerf tht....lol..

Modifié par Dark_Enclave33, 02 septembre 2012 - 12:39 .

[silencekills]

o Ventus wrote...

We need to nerf things in this co-op game.

Right.

Another winner!

Congratulations!

Modifié par silencekills, 02 septembre 2012 - 12:40 .

[Punisher cork]

The harrier is fine the way it is. I use the Armor piercing mod and extended clip. Using double taps and controlled trigger bursts I get excellent performance from the gun without needing a stabilizer.

[Rokayt]

Silence, we need another round of winner sauce, first post of page 4.

[Rip504]

Punisher cork wrote...

The harrier is fine the way it is. I use the Armor piercing mod and extended clip. Using double taps and controlled trigger bursts I get excellent performance from the gun without needing a stabilizer.

Hence a Nerf is needed,I agree.

[steverw1975]

Rokayt wrote...

steverw1975 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Hint: The balance changes are based off of usage statistics.
So if you stop using the harrier, they will study why you are not using the harrier.

The Harrier buff will never come as long as it is 1/3rd of all pug weaponry.

So if you want more bullets, not using it is litterally the solution.

Remember when you wrote that things only seemed balanced because people weren't using two thirds of the guns? It seems to me that wonderful strategy is why. "So, a majority of players like this gun? I know, we'll mess it up, then everything will be good." Here's a thought, if people are using a small group of weapons, it might not be because those weapons are too powerful. It just might mean that the other weapons just aren't good enough...especially with the buff the geth got and the  addition of platinum. Just my opinion, but if they want to continue to balance things, they might want to focus on buffs rather than nerfs for a while (like they've done two of the last three weeks). There are simply too many guns that aren't worth using in u/u/g or platinum matches.

Now do note. If only one gun is good enough, you might be turning that difficulty slider up to high, and you are shooting yourself in the balls 12/5 times.

Ok, I laughed at that one. No worries, though, my balls are just fine. I use different weapons for different characters, and I have no problem getting things done. My point was simply that there are a bunch of guns that just aren't worth taking into higher dificulty matches. Comparing ultra rares to them just doesn't seem appropriate. Of course players are going to prefer the rares and ultra rares. If they didn't, then labeling them rare and ultra rare and making them much more costly and difficult to obtain would simply be a rip off.

[ASmoothCriminalx]

o Ventus wrote...

We need to nerf things in this co-op game.

Right.

"Big Picture, what's that? Never heard of it.."

Modifié par ASmoothCriminalx, 02 septembre 2012 - 12:53 .

[Rokayt]

steverw1975 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

steverw1975 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Hint: The balance changes are based off of usage statistics.
So if you stop using the harrier, they will study why you are not using the harrier.

The Harrier buff will never come as long as it is 1/3rd of all pug weaponry.

So if you want more bullets, not using it is litterally the solution.

Remember when you wrote that things only seemed balanced because people weren't using two thirds of the guns? It seems to me that wonderful strategy is why. "So, a majority of players like this gun? I know, we'll mess it up, then everything will be good." Here's a thought, if people are using a small group of weapons, it might not be because those weapons are too powerful. It just might mean that the other weapons just aren't good enough...especially with the buff the geth got and the  addition of platinum. Just my opinion, but if they want to continue to balance things, they might want to focus on buffs rather than nerfs for a while (like they've done two of the last three weeks). There are simply too many guns that aren't worth using in u/u/g or platinum matches.

Now do note. If only one gun is good enough, you might be turning that difficulty slider up to high, and you are shooting yourself in the balls 12/5 times.

Ok, I laughed at that one. No worries, though, my balls are just fine. I use different weapons for different characters, and I have no problem getting things done. My point was simply that there are a bunch of guns that just aren't worth taking into higher dificulty matches. Comparing ultra rares to them just doesn't seem appropriate. Of course players are going to prefer the rares and ultra rares. If they didn't, then labeling them rare and ultra rare and making them much more costly and difficult to obtain would simply be a rip off.

A lot of them are heavier, which makes them stronger simply because of the weight they carry with them.

However, it would be bad game design to have two teirs of obsolete weapons sitting around in the first place, especially when said two teirs of weapons contain some of the more fun to use guns in the game.

The ultra rares, without a doubt, have the highest strength to weight ratios in the game anyhow.
The Rares, not so much, but that is fair (Given that you can skip the very light uncommons if you feel like it.)

Modifié par Rokayt, 02 septembre 2012 - 12:57 .

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

i think it's fine the way it is. maybe a little more ammo capacity but i can always use thermal clip packs. lord knows i have a million of them.

Modifié par PitPatPotLOL, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:00 .

[Meistr_Chef]

I think it's great that it has awesome damage but the very limited ammo. Otherwise everyone would just spam it like crazy without bothering to aim a bit more carefully.

Modifié par Meistr_Chef, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:05 .

[PendantTurnips]

its a very rare gun, why not just leave a few guns in the game that are better than others? its not like it really affects anyone. if you nerf everything you will end up with a boring game where every gun is just as good as the other and might as well just not play the game anymore.
besides it is something that keeps you playing the game and buying PSPs

[OblivionDawn]

It either neither needs more ammo or needs to be buffed in some other way. All there is to it.

[Scam_poo]

I guess it's kind of the way they balanced the weapon... I am fine with it, though I wouldn't mind some extra ammo.

[DSxCallOfBooty-]

Booshnickins wrote...

Don't even try to bring up DPS or anything

DPS.

Seriously.  The entire reason to use the Harrier is because of it's outstanding DPS.  If you want, you can burst fire it yourself so you can hit enemies easily, or conserve ammo.

But taking away the massive damage potential of the weapon is NOT the right choice.

OT:  After reading a few other peoples comments, I'm changing my stance on the issue to "it's fine as is."  I don't happen to have the Harrier myself, can't speak on whether or not it is properly balanced outside of my own speculation, although from what people are saying here is that not even a minor buff to total ammo capacity should occur, as it's the only serious downfall of the weapon.

[FollowMeClosely]

More ammo will make it OP. it's fine the way it is. Lack of ammo makes up for the damage it does.

[inferno lizard]

Already been nerfed BW beat u to it

[cuzIMgood]

theillusiveman11 wrote...
Please give it more ammo.

lol NO.

[Blind2Society]

Agree with more ammo.

Really I think upgrades should give a reasonable upgrade to the amount of spare ammo. What's does an upgrade give at this point, 2 extra bullets? Give me a break.

[Rip504]

Blind2Society wrote...

Agree with more ammo.

Really I think upgrades should give a reasonable upgrade to the amount of spare ammo. What's does an upgrade give at this point, 2 extra bullets? Give me a break.

http://ts2.mm.bing.n...04536c9849fe9cb

There you go,now NERF IT.

[OmegaRex]

It's fine the way it is.

Ammo is only an issue if you super glue yourself to one piece of cover and never move except for objectives.

If you're playing aggressively, you're going to pass ammo boxes. BioWare put them there for a reason, it wasn't meant to be decoration while you set up a campsite on the other end of the map.

[Blarg]

 I would happily have recoil and weight increased for more ammo. But until then, I'll just keep using it with my Batarian/Barrage Upgrade.

[JG The Gamer]

If you stay near an ammo box, the Harrier is great. Otherwise, you're in quite a bit of trouble when using it. That said, it's perfect on Batarians due to their boosted ammo capacity abilities.

[Valmar]

The low ammo is the only thing that's keeping them from nerfing the damage output. If that added more ammo the damage would be nerfed to compensate. If it isn't, the forums would be filled with people crying about how it should be. The Harrier is a great rifle and its limited ammo is its saving grace, as its just enough of a drawback to keep most people from crying OP on it.

More ammo would be lovely, but the risks of having that ammo are too high. The harrier is one of the few Ultra Rares that actually feels worthy of being in the Ultra Rare tier, as opposed to being rubbish outmatched by a Uncommon, like some of the other Ultra Rares.

[parico]

Lets hope they just leave it alone. If it gets more ammo its damage will be will be nerfed. Since it is rather heavy and has a low ammo capacity it came pre nerfed anyway. We don't need another ur following the path of the typhoon now do we?

[Beeno4Life]

I agree. And then just buff every other weapon in the game to be on par with it.