I expected a nerf thread. As much as I would love to see it with more ammo, I have to admit it would be "considered OP". Granted, it's about as heavy as an LMG should be (isn't the revenant supposed to be an LMG, more so than an AR?) but it's the only decent AR in the game (with the exception of the Prothean beam of super death)
It's time, the Harrier must be balanced... Or do you think it's fine the way it is?
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#102
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 02:37
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It NEEDS more ammo. Seriously, that would actually make me use the gun.
It's a fine gun, if you're a Demolisher. For everyone else, it's just too much micromanaging, ESPECIALLY for Marksman-spec'd Turian Soldiers.
It's a fine gun, if you're a Demolisher. For everyone else, it's just too much micromanaging, ESPECIALLY for Marksman-spec'd Turian Soldiers.
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Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 02:41
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I'd say the Harrier's perfect the way it is. No nerf or buff necessary here.
#105
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 02:46
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Wow...not stupid at all. It's a great build. Demolishers are suppsed to tear ish up. Pretty much all other assault rifles suck. The harrier is fine as is. If they give it better ammo capacity, they'll nerf the rest of it into the ground. It needs some kind of downside.Drummernate wrote...
No.
I HATE seeing everyone with a demolisher and harrier...
80% of players use that stupid build now.
#106
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 02:46
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WHY WOULD YOU WANT THE HARRIER NERFED ARE YOU KIDDING ME ALL YOU BABYS DO IS CRY ABOUT NERFS IT DOES NEED TO BE NERFED I AM DONE PLAYING THIS GAME BYE BIOWARE
#107
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 02:49
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DatFeel wrote...
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THE HARRIER NERFED ARE YOU KIDDING ME ALL YOU BABYS DO IS CRY ABOUT NERFS IT DOES NEED TO BE NERFED I AM DONE PLAYING THIS GAME BYE BIOWARE
I do laugh everytime I see a certain someone make a statement like this, then make a thread the next day detailing how thankful they are to Bioware.
#108
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 02:51
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Unless you're camping ammo shouldn't be that serious an issue. If it had more ammo we'd see a lot more posts about how OP it is.
#109
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:03
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The most balanced gun in the game doesn't need to be rebalanced. That makes no sense. It is PERFCT the way it is. And I don't mean perfect as in pre-nerf Typhoon where entire armies bow before it's super OPness, I mean perfect as in it has a balance of pros and cons that make it a great gun
#110
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:04
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I'd agree with a weight increase if it meant more Ammo, also if the ever fix the stability issues with this gun (less stable when fired while in cover than when out of cover, clearly a glitch) then it would essentially have been nerfed, and I think extra ammo would bring it back to where it should be in that case.
#111
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:09
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If Harrier gets a buff, then All Ultra Rare Weapons should get a buff. If all Ultra Rare Weapons get a buff, then enemies get a nice buff.
#112
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:09
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I remember what happened last time they buffed what was already one of the best weapons in the game... The end result was the buff was eventually rolled back, with lots of bad feelings all around. So I'm gonna say just leave it as is.
And honestly, the Harrier is already amazing. It doesn't need a buff. At all. Ever.
And honestly, the Harrier is already amazing. It doesn't need a buff. At all. Ever.
#113
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:14
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DullahansXMark wrote...
It NEEDS more ammo. Seriously, that would actually make me use the gun.
It's a fine gun, if you're a Demolisher. For everyone else, it's just too much micromanaging, ESPECIALLY for Marksman-spec'd Turian Soldiers.
What's so micro-managey about it? Watch the counter every now and then, move from ammo box to ammo box as you mow down enemies.
#115
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:16
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As much as a pain it is to run for ammo all the time, I actually feel fine with it. If they give it more ammo, no complaints from me. I think this is the best way to keep it from being nerfed.
#116
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:18
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Lucius Aelius wrote...
I'd agree with a weight increase if it meant more Ammo, also if the ever fix the stability issues with this gun (less stable when fired while in cover than when out of cover, clearly a glitch) then it would essentially have been nerfed, and I think extra ammo would bring it back to where it should be in that case.
If they switch it, so it gets the recoil it currently has when firing from cover when you're out of cover, and vice versa, then it will actually be an interesting gun. Maybe that was their intent and it will be fixed in the coming patch. That would obviously be followed by a spare ammo buff.
Modifié par Killahead, 02 septembre 2012 - 03:20 .
#117
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:20
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It's honestly not even that amazing. It's only good on the Demolisher and Destroyer because let's face it - they make any weapon "OP" save for the God-awful ones. The Harrier, to deserve it's UR status, would need a higher increase of ammo per level (Instead of going from 80 to 82, how about 80 to 84?), maybe a higher weight decrease per level as well.
#118
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:21
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Up the spare ammo count. Other than that, it's fine.
#119
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:22
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It's fine...
Move along...
Move along...
#120
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:35
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The Harrier is fine as it is. Usable on almost any class.
It´s weight and "few" ammo makes it balanced perfectly as it is.
Want more ammo? Use the HEAVY BARRAGE gear or +30% AMMO gear.
The Harrier doesn´t need anything balanced.
It´s weight and "few" ammo makes it balanced perfectly as it is.
Want more ammo? Use the HEAVY BARRAGE gear or +30% AMMO gear.
The Harrier doesn´t need anything balanced.
Modifié par Josh.de, 02 septembre 2012 - 03:37 .
#121
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:49
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Make it heavier.
Give it maybe one more mag of ammo.
Id be cool with it. Im fine with it now though.
Give it maybe one more mag of ammo.
Id be cool with it. Im fine with it now though.
#122
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 03:56
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If it has more ammo, everyone will cry nerf.
We all know how that'll turn out *glances at Krysae*
We all know how that'll turn out *glances at Krysae*
Modifié par BlazingZephyr, 02 septembre 2012 - 03:57 .
#123
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 04:30
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Harrier is fine. It has a major defect in its clip size and total ammo count which compensate for the other things like damage, accuracy, and ROF that are great. If you take away the ammo limitations, you'd end up with a Krysae situation where everything is just a little too good... and will be nerfed into mediocrity. I'd rather have it good at most things and bad at one than meh on all of them after waves of Tuesday nerfing.
#124
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 05:01
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I'm going to say leave it as it is. I don't want it nerfed.
Yes I'd like it to have more ammo, but I don't know what the price of that would be....
Yes I'd like it to have more ammo, but I don't know what the price of that would be....
#125
Posté 02 septembre 2012 - 05:06
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OmegaRex wrote...
It's fine the way it is.
Ammo is only an issue if you super glue yourself to one piece of cover and never move except for objectives.
If you're playing aggressively, you're going to pass ammo boxes. BioWare put them there for a reason, it wasn't meant to be decoration while you set up a campsite on the other end of the map.
I have to admit, until the harrier and Condor I never needed to actually MAKE an ammo run...
Name a map other than Condor where you can camp and there isn't a conveniently placed ammo box near by (Dagger - there's one right outside the control tower by the primary LZ - Giant, there's one at the bottom room and one right outside by the ladder to the tower room. White- got ammo boxes out of the yin yang)
Throw in your ammo clips (most people easily have over 100) and you really should never run out of ammo....
