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[cory257383]

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

[Astartes Marine]

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Astartes Marine wrote...

Things too powerful makes things dull and uninteresting.
Things too weak makes things dull and frustrating. 

Proper balance keeps it fair and fun.

there are limits though. some classes can never be truely balanced. if it were a drell vanquard should score as much as a GI and we all know that's not the case.

Umm. Dude. MY DV totally outscores every GI he playes with.

Balance plays a part, but so does player skill.  

An F-14 Tomcat may be a little outdated by today's demanding combat aircraft standards, but in the right hands and the right pilots it could still compete with and maybe even surpass the most advanced fighters.

[Rokayt]

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

It was never as fun as struggling, and failing to get total completion of spyro 2 five or six times.

Then finnaly getting to that final bossfight were you got flying and the super fireball at the same time in that really cool dogfight sequence.

Unfortunately... Such things are no longer appeciated by the gamer world.

Astartes Marine wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Astartes Marine wrote...

Things too powerful makes things dull and uninteresting.
Things too weak makes things dull and frustrating. 

Proper balance keeps it fair and fun.

there are limits though. some classes can never be truely balanced. if
it were a drell vanquard should score as much as a GI and we all know
that's not the case.

Umm. Dude. MY DV totally outscores every GI he playes with.

Balance plays a part, but so does player skill.  

An
F-14 Tomcat may be a little outdated by today's demanding combat
aircraft standards, but in the right hands and the right pilots it could
still compete with and maybe even surpass the most advanced fighters.

Ace combat 4.

Dog fighting with the bombers was so fun (,And a really great way to anger freinds who you invited to PVP at that game.)

*Deploy P.e.d.*

Watch air get filled with explosions.

*Profit*

Modifié par Rokayt, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:29 .

[GGW KillerTiger]

-reads title- shouldn't it state why do we need balance changes that are done incorrectly and without testing?

[cory257383]

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

It was never as fun as struggling, and failing to get total completion of spyro 2 five or six times.

Then finnaly getting to that final bossfight were you got flying and the super fireball at the same time in that really cool dogfight sequence.

Unfortunately... Such things are no longer appeciated by the gamer world.

the old spyro crash bandicoot and twisted medal on the ps1. you sir are bringing back memories

[Ravenmyste]

damn GGW stop doing that...mind reading i was going to say they have to balance everything some weapons stats could have been incorrectly added.. when they did in house testing prior to release..

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:30 .

[Rokayt]

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

It was never as fun as struggling, and failing to get total completion of spyro 2 five or six times.

Then finnaly getting to that final bossfight were you got flying and the super fireball at the same time in that really cool dogfight sequence.

Unfortunately... Such things are no longer appeciated by the gamer world.

the old spyro crash bandicoot and twisted medal on the ps1. you sir are bringing back memories

Jak 1-3, MGS 3, RE 4, and Ace Combat 4 were the golden age of gaming.

Those were the lead in.

All great games.

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

-reads title- shouldn't it state why do we need balance changes that are done incorrectly and without testing?

The reason why so many rash balance changes get made:

QA testers. Their job is basically to replicate glitches for hours on end.

Imagine, repeating the vanguard glitch, making enemies invisible, and making yourself invisible all day.

After that, you would pass any sort of change to a game.

Modifié par Rokayt, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:32 .

[Killahead]

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

It was never as fun as struggling, and failing to get total completion of spyro 2 five or six times.

Then finnaly getting to that final bossfight were you got flying and the super fireball at the same time in that really cool dogfight sequence.

Unfortunately... Such things are no longer appeciated by the gamer world.

the old spyro crash bandicoot and twisted medal on the ps1. you sir are bringing back memories

Jak 1-3, MGS 3, RE 4, and Ace Combat 4 were the golden age of gaming.

Those were the lead in.

All great games.

Now I feel old. I remember saving up to buy Goonies II for NES. Cost about 600 Norwegian kroner, or 90 dollar. And that was back then! For a 256 kb game. Jeez.

[Rokayt]

I still play rouge, a link to the past, and such.

Modifié par Rokayt, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:38 .

[DS Monkfish]

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

I remember the Commodore 64.  Bruce Lee was the first game I ever completed, and my friend bragged about using a cheat to go from the start menu to the final screen.  

My first facepalm ever...

I think I've gone off-topic.

[Pho Kadat]

So you farm to get credits easier so you can get better weapons to make farming easier? This is also circular logic.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Because Prothean.

Apparently.

[Ravenmyste]

Killahead wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

It was never as fun as struggling, and failing to get total completion of spyro 2 five or six times.

Then finnaly getting to that final bossfight were you got flying and the super fireball at the same time in that really cool dogfight sequence.

Unfortunately... Such things are no longer appeciated by the gamer world.

the old spyro crash bandicoot and twisted medal on the ps1. you sir are bringing back memories

Jak 1-3, MGS 3, RE 4, and Ace Combat 4 were the golden age of gaming.

Those were the lead in.

All great games.

Now I feel old. I remember saving up to buy Goonies II for NES. Cost about 600 Norwegian kroner, or 90 dollar. And that was back then! For a 256 kb game. Jeez.

oh man..now you making me really old there killa i purposely didnt answer this thread on old games when it came back to the game shark for the old psone{ not that little white coaster thing},the big huge rectangle grey slab of plastic and with cd door that you could have put cover sticker on it.... that played everything that i loved before from diablo1 to finally fantasy vii with everything in between..

then with the snes one word to say how old rock and roll racing and lost viking 1and 2 and last but not least goonies 2... damn you for making me remember my gaming history. i wont go any further back because if i do then will include sega cd and genesis, and before the sega master... and before that atari 2600 and commodore 64...

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 02 septembre 2012 - 01:51 .

[Rokayt]

Diablo 1.

Hey. I have been looking for a ladder party if anyone still plays D2...

[Biotic_Warlock]

Rokayt wrote...

Diablo 1.

Hey. I have been looking for a ladder party if anyone still plays D2...

I play an effective ice/fire sorceress
Or i could use my skeleton army necro.

[Ravenmyste]

Rokayt wrote...

Diablo 1.

Hey. I have been looking for a ladder party if anyone still plays D2...

 un fortuanlly  diablo 1 doesnt work  on my pc  due to drivers for the game..on the pc  and diablo 2 works but ha so many  things to update..

[Killahead]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Killahead wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

It was never as fun as struggling, and failing to get total completion of spyro 2 five or six times.

Then finnaly getting to that final bossfight were you got flying and the super fireball at the same time in that really cool dogfight sequence.

Unfortunately... Such things are no longer appeciated by the gamer world.

the old spyro crash bandicoot and twisted medal on the ps1. you sir are bringing back memories

Jak 1-3, MGS 3, RE 4, and Ace Combat 4 were the golden age of gaming.

Those were the lead in.

All great games.

Now I feel old. I remember saving up to buy Goonies II for NES. Cost about 600 Norwegian kroner, or 90 dollar. And that was back then! For a 256 kb game. Jeez.

oh man..now you making me really old there killa i purposely didnt answer this thread on old games when it came back to the game shark for the old psone{ not that little white coaster thing},the big huge rectangle grey slab of plastic and with cd door that you could have put cover sticker on it.... that played everything that i loved before from diablo1 to finally fantasy vii with everything in between..

then with the snes one word to say how old rock and roll racing and lost viking 1and 2 and last but not least goonies 2... damn you for making me remember my gaming history. i wont go any further back because if i do then will include sega cd and genesis, and before the sega master... and before that atari 2600 and commodore 64...

Now you've done it, nostalgia overtakes me. I mean, Rock n' Roll Racing, such a badass game. What a soundtrack! And the Lost Vikings games were great. I might have to download a SNES emulator on my PC one of these days..

[xx DJ ONE xx]

dmath2 wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

I remember the Commodore 64.  Bruce Lee was the first game I ever completed, and my friend bragged about using a cheat to go from the start menu to the final screen.  

My first facepalm ever...

I think I've gone off-topic.

Ahhh, I remember finding out [SPOILER] the truth about Santa [END SPOILER] because I woke up to pee one night just before Christmas & heard intriguing sounds coming from my parents bedroom.

Get your mind out of the gutter, it was the vaguely familiar sound of Pac Man being played using the Atari 2600 that I had asked santa for...

...memories...oh, yeah. What WAS the topic again? Balance. I don't remember, did they ever buff those Ghosts from Pac Man? 

[Ravenmyste]

Killahead wrote...




Now you've done it, nostalgia overtakes me. I mean, Rock n' Roll Racing, such a badass game. What a soundtrack! And the Lost Vikings games were great. I might have to download a SNES emulator on my PC one of these days..

yeha was such a really good sound sound track!!! really helped me during my college days to unwind after doing  week long of test

if you can try to find the game with jack black, its for the xbox and ps 3 it has all the old metal song groups that you can imagine i cant remember the  damn name its right on the tip of my tongue... grah!! cant remember

[PoetryAvenger]

Ravenmyste wrote...

Killahead wrote...




Now you've done it, nostalgia overtakes me. I mean, Rock n' Roll Racing, such a badass game. What a soundtrack! And the Lost Vikings games were great. I might have to download a SNES emulator on my PC one of these days..

yeha was such a really good sound sound track!!! really helped me during my college days to unwind after doing  week long of test

if you can try to find the game with jack black, its for the xbox and ps 3 it has all the old metal song groups that you can imagine i cant remember the  damn name its right on the tip of my tongue... grah!! cant remember

Brutal Legend!

<3 that game so much.

[Seerezaro]

neteng101 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

For longevity.

If the game was balanced, people might actually relax enough to play something other then farming matches.

Opposite is true when it comes to nerfs - people are sick of things getting nerfed and some have left.

Its an utter lie.  The only people that you keep by nerfing things is the hardcore elites and stupid ass kissers of them.  The majority of the playerbase just wants to have fun, and farming would be less of an issue of weapons and difficulty allowed easier access to weapons and higher difficulties without farming strategies.

Increased difficulty plus difficulty obtaining better weapons leads to increased farming.

The balance is done all wrong in this game.  The balance should be towards the middle of the curve, not the upper 20%.

People who have left the game because the nerfs are short sighted, not only that they only achieved their success because of relying on an unbalanced and unfair advantage.  When all things are balanced then every loudout can achieve a mutual level of success.  When things are unbalanced only a few loadouts/chars can achieve relative success and the others are left behind.  This constricts the number of strategies and playstyles available in the game and makes the game dull.

I don't expect most people to realize the latter half of that paragraph.  However, anyone who believes that the game has been a "barrage of nerfs" is short sighted and narrow-minded.  There has been a minimal amount of nerfs few have been large, most have been neglible.  The number of buffs still outweigh it.

[Ravenmyste]

xx DJ ONE xx wrote...

dmath2 wrote...

cory257383 wrote...

Rokayt wrote...

Does anyone remember the PS 1, and how all the kids back then would play games for two days after discovering whatever god mode cheat was available, and getting bored.

remember the gameshark I would beat a game once then go total god mode.

I remember the Commodore 64.  Bruce Lee was the first game I ever completed, and my friend bragged about using a cheat to go from the start menu to the final screen.  

My first facepalm ever...

I think I've gone off-topic.

Ahhh, I remember finding out [SPOILER] the truth about Santa [END SPOILER] because I woke up to pee one night just before Christmas & heard intriguing sounds coming from my parents bedroom.

Get your mind out of the gutter, it was the vaguely familiar sound of Pac Man being played using the Atari 2600 that I had asked santa for...

...memories...oh, yeah. What WAS the topic again? Balance. I don't remember, did they ever buff those Ghosts from Pac Man? 

yeah they did actually they came out with new and improved pack man where the ghost  could  travel thru the maze walls if i remember right the maze would also  disappear for few second as well and you would have to  run from the new ghost you would have to get the new turbo powerup to  beable to getaway from them.. at the time.

as i said balance is a must in games  that keep  changing  each week its  to keep us baited and or try new things to excell at thats the true balance if we diidnt have balance in the game we would be playing  a very very dull mp

Modifié par Ravenmyste, 02 septembre 2012 - 02:12 .

[Ravenmyste]

PoetryAvenger wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

Killahead wrote...




Now you've done it, nostalgia overtakes me. I mean, Rock n' Roll Racing, such a badass game. What a soundtrack! And the Lost Vikings games were great. I might have to download a SNES emulator on my PC one of these days..

yeha was such a really good sound sound track!!! really helped me during my college days to unwind after doing  week long of test

if you can try to find the game with jack black, its for the xbox and ps 3 it has all the old metal song groups that you can imagine i cant remember the  damn name its right on the tip of my tongue... grah!! cant remember

Brutal Legend!

<3 that game so much.

 thank you !!!! i love that game!!

[DS Monkfish]

Ravenmyste wrote...

PoetryAvenger wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

Killahead wrote...




Now you've done it, nostalgia overtakes me. I mean, Rock n' Roll Racing, such a badass game. What a soundtrack! And the Lost Vikings games were great. I might have to download a SNES emulator on my PC one of these days..

yeha was such a really good sound sound track!!! really helped me during my college days to unwind after doing  week long of test

if you can try to find the game with jack black, its for the xbox and ps 3 it has all the old metal song groups that you can imagine i cant remember the  damn name its right on the tip of my tongue... grah!! cant remember

Brutal Legend!

<3 that game so much.

 thank you !!!! i love that game!!

Whoah - including me, three of the five people who actually bought Brutal Legend are IN THIS THREAD!

DECAPITATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

[PoetryAvenger]

dmath2 wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

PoetryAvenger wrote...

Ravenmyste wrote...

Killahead wrote...




Now you've done it, nostalgia overtakes me. I mean, Rock n' Roll Racing, such a badass game. What a soundtrack! And the Lost Vikings games were great. I might have to download a SNES emulator on my PC one of these days..

yeha was such a really good sound sound track!!! really helped me during my college days to unwind after doing  week long of test

if you can try to find the game with jack black, its for the xbox and ps 3 it has all the old metal song groups that you can imagine i cant remember the  damn name its right on the tip of my tongue... grah!! cant remember

Brutal Legend!

<3 that game so much.

 thank you !!!! i love that game!!

Whoah - including me, three of the five people who actually bought Brutal Legend are IN THIS THREAD!

DECAPITATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

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