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[Isichar]

So 6 months ago I had the manager come to me and tells me a higher up position has opened up and become availiable and that she wanted me to take it, but that it would require me to switch to the different department within the company, I accepted. I change departments to find out I dont actually have the position yet but that they are still putting it through.

6 months of getting strung along, told not to worry that it was coming. 6 months of doing jobs above my job description and putting in extra time (My own time) trying to get my work done well and above the average standards. And then my supervisor sits me down today and tells me because our department has been running so much smoother, the company has decided to get rid of the position.

He then proceeds to tell me that the company has decided to cut hours and that I would "Have more free time to myself" as he put it, going as far as to call this a "good thing" for me.

And now I dont even know how to feel. I get it, thats life, you can put tons of effort into something and more often then not have it mean nothing. What bothers me is I spent this entire time working my ass off and they can't even have the decency to tell me they are ****ing me over, ther are trying to put a positive spin on this when it is a completely negative thing, and to know that me working harder actually worked against me... well it sucks. Part of me wants to tell them to **** off and walk out, but the other part of me says Im getting top wage for your work and have 7 years work experience and I should not throw that away, but maybe at the same time I have become too comfortable with this job...

So I feel hurt, although not really surprised (after the 2nd month I started to figure out it wasn't going to happen) I am just not sure how to react. Is it really worth it to stay with a company that would do that? Or do I just need to grow up and accept that life throws **** at me? What is sad is I genuinely want to do my work well and take pride in it, regardless of what those douchebags think.

Im sorry if this does not belong on these forums, I just needed to say something somewhere just to get it out there because inside I feel crushed. So yeah, life sucks.

[MingWolf]

A lot of companies are like that, sadly. Just don't take it personally. If someone else was in your shoes, it would have happened to them as well. Should you stay with a company like that? Well, keep in mind it's never easy to start over after 7 years. If there is a better opportunity out there, you can consider that, but keep in mind that you can experience similar effing overs elsewhere as well.

[Isichar]

MingWolf wrote...

A lot of companies are like that, sadly. Just don't take it personally. If someone else was in your shoes, it would have happened to them as well. Should you stay with a company like that? Well, keep in mind it's never easy to start over after 7 years. If there is a better opportunity out there, you can consider that, but keep in mind that you can experience similar effing overs elsewhere as well.

Yeah I know it happens, and I know its not because I have done my work poorly. Because things have improved a lot since I have gotten there and I know my bosses realize that too. But I feel upset that I let myself be used like a tool, knowing this is most likely how it would result. All I could do is sit down and nod as my boss tells me this and listen to him try and tell me how this is a good thing for me. I knew the moment I opened my mouth I would only say something in the heat of the moment I would end up regretting in the long run.

Even now the only thing I feel like I can do is keep working, make a living and pay my bills, and help support those I care about and love. Theres really nothing I can do. I can't even bring myself to tell the company how I really feel because I know that would work against me, and yet I hate myself for that, if that makes any sense.

Modifié par Isichar, 02 septembre 2012 - 06:34 .

[naughty99]

Keep your current job, but get out there and find something better. I've changed jobs a number of times over the years, and each time it was a boost to my career I probably wouldn't have gotten had I stayed at the same company.

If you get a solid offer, you can go back to your boss and let him know you received a good offer and you are considering leaving the company. If they really want to keep you, they might make a competing offer.

[MingWolf]

Yeah I understand. Don't blame yourself though. The work you put in has to mean for something, even if not to your bosses. Give it some time. Maybe a new opportunity would pop up in the future.

[wsandista]

That is awful.

[Isichar]

naughty99 wrote...

Keep your current job, but get out there and find something better. I've changed jobs a number of times over the years, and each time it was a boost to my career I probably wouldn't have gotten had I stayed at the same company.

If you get a solid offer, you can go back to your boss and let him know you received a good offer and you are considering leaving the company. If they really want to keep you, they might make a competing offer.

Probably my best bet. I doubt I could find something with my wage right off the bat, but with the decrease in hours a fulltime job with less pay could still end up making me more, and to be honest high pay is not my concern, I just want to do a job that I feel like it is worth it to take pride in, but as mingwolf stated it is not something exclusive only to my company, many are like that.

Either way this is what I will end up doing. If I find something I will like then I will put in my 2 weeks, do my job properly and then leave. The best thing I can tell myself is that they are not worth it, not even worth getting angry at and doing something that will actually be bad for myself.

Going job hunting will be an awkward experience after so long though...

[Isichar]

MingWolf wrote...

Yeah I understand. Don't blame yourself though. The work you put in has to mean for something, even if not to your bosses. Give it some time. Maybe a new opportunity would pop up in the future.

Thanks, I sure hope so.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Maybe you've learned something during this agony.
I hope at least they pay you some extra money for your hard effort. Otherwise, what a waste of time and energy.

[Isichar]

Imperial Sentinel Arian wrote...

Maybe you've learned something during this agony.
I hope at least they pay you some extra money for your hard effort. Otherwise, what a waste of time and energy.

No extra money. I have no problem putting in my own time and effort but they did to some extent string me along and use the carrot at the end of the stick to encourage that more.

I would love to say that I learned something from the whole experience but I am not entirely sure I can say I have since I was already aware it would most likely not end up actually happening pretty early on (even though I kept getting assured it would). Maybe that I need to stick up for myself more? Sometimes life just sucks and you need to accept it? Iono, its all too recent and I need more time to really think about things.

Modifié par Isichar, 02 septembre 2012 - 07:20 .

[MichaelStuart]

Sorry to hear that, hope you find a better job soon.

[termokanden]

Beats being the new guy.

[billy the squid]

I like stories.

[nhcre8tv1]

Walk up to him and go "How's this for free time", punch him in the face and then light the building on a fire. Worked for me the last few places I worked at, usually just the costumers die.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Life sucks...what else is new?

[frustratemyself]

If you were doing extra work with no additional pay or time off in lieu it sounds like they played you. Could have been worse, you could have got the job and have it made redundant.

[vometia]

Loyalty's a two-way street; most companies aren't that great in that regard, but if you're constantly being expected to go the extra mile and you get nothing in return, then it might be an idea to look elsewhere. It certainly isn't worthwhile to keep on putting in extra effort with nebulous promises of being rewarded in future: that's a mug's game.

[Orian Tabris]

Quoting a character - Jane Lane - from the T.V. show Daria.

"Life sucks and then you die."

And another line, more appropriate to this thread, by Daria, herself:

"Life sucks no matter where you are, so don't be fooled by location changes."

[Isichar]

vometia wrote...

Loyalty's a two-way street; most companies aren't that great in that regard, but if you're constantly being expected to go the extra mile and you get nothing in return, then it might be an idea to look elsewhere. It certainly isn't worthwhile to keep on putting in extra effort with nebulous promises of being rewarded in future: that's a mug's game.

The management style has always been push, push, push which for the most part I dont mind, I enjoy challenging myself and see how much work I can get done in a short period of time. What I hate is how any extra work gets ignored, and even if I get all my work done everyday for a month and spending my own time to do so the moment anything goes wrong are manager flips out and starts talking about how no one (except himself of course) cares or has the will to get things done. 

The managers can only push, they are completely unable to inspire people to want to get the work done and at the end of the day it all comes down to how they can put a spin on the situation. No matter what the situation actually is or how anyone feels regarding it, they will tell themselves this is a good thing for everyone and pat themselves on the shoulders and if I or someone else tell them differently then they see our attitude as a been negative and a problem for them.

I had hoped they would have realized that I can do a lot to improve many of the issues that they are having. Even in my position I am quite proud of what I have been able to accomplish in that regard, and given the opportunity I know I could have done much more too. I would have hoped the company would have seen that as been in their favor to give me the ability to do more, but looks like I am just a tool to them at the end of the day.

[MerAnne]

Don't assume that you were a 'tool'. Let's face facts, the economy - pretty much world wide - stinks right now. 6 months ago, what you were told may have been true. When it became 'not true' is hard to say. I know that the fiscal year where I work ends Sept 30 so this would be the time that they would have to admit that what you were told 6 months ago isn't true now (whether or not it ever was).

7 years isn't THAT long. I have 6 years until I'm eligible for retirement. I would be a fool to leave now. You, on the other hand, have the opportunity to look around. If you love what you're doing, look for another company that will let you do the same thing. If there are other careers that you feel would enjoy more, look more seriously at them. There is no harm in LOOKING. And maybe something better will come of it. If you don't have dependents, this could even be an opportunity to move, see something of the country/world.

When life gives you lemons, make apple juice (extra points if you can name that movie)

[RedArmyShogun]

Well OP hmm

Modifié par Char's Revenge, 03 septembre 2012 - 01:14 .

[Volus Warlord]

And sometimes you gotta get the rant out.

Believe you me, sometimes things can feel like a giant lesson in futility. I understand that.

[termokanden]

MerAnne wrote...

Don't assume that you were a 'tool'. Let's face facts, the economy - pretty much world wide - stinks right now. 6 months ago, what you were told may have been true. When it became 'not true' is hard to say. I know that the fiscal year where I work ends Sept 30 so this would be the time that they would have to admit that what you were told 6 months ago isn't true now (whether or not it ever was).

That said, the poor economy is being used to excuse all kinds of bad behavior towards employees, and I honestly think the older generation is treating itself too well and is unwilling to share the wealth, using the poor economy to brush off complaints. There is a massive imbalance in the distribution of wealth based on age.

It's a bad time to be unemployed, but sadly it's also a bad time to get your first job. And one thing that NEVER fails to ****** me off is that I know several people on disability pension who have way smaller problems than mine, and they just run around doing whatever they want 100% of the time. Ah sometimes I wonder why I even bother getting out of bed in the morning.

Sorry for the rant. I get it. Life does indeed suck.

Modifié par termokanden, 03 septembre 2012 - 08:14 .

[bmwcrazy]

 Reading this makes me kind of glad that I'm my own boss.
Working 12 hours a day sucks but at least I have total control of everything.