48 réponses à ce sujet

[Ziegrif]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...
1) No it is a squad bonus. Whether it is divided or not I don't know but you only get 10k period.
2) More likely reason is that everyone rockets Wave 11. Seriously no one ever rockets when it is actually useful in PUGs. If I'm "dragging" down there it's a quick run and I never end up getting revives or much of any medals. I have what I killed with rockets and not much else. In PUGs however I'm often over 100k and doubling 2nd place's score.
3) If he already saw that he got 10k and you're saying he can't if you're right then you are clearly wrong... or OP is a troll.

1. So everyone gets 10k. That's what I was trying to find out thanks for that.

2. Seen this aswell usually I don't mind if pugs used 1 rocket in wave 11... 5 is pushing it. And have been in the rocket score yadda yadda situation.

3. So if I'm right I'm also wrong... what? HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?!

Also I've never seen anyone score as low as 10k while trying for 10 waves unless they came in during extraction or wave 10. Not since the leech-o-time meter update came.

Modifié par Ziegrif, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:25 .

[parico]

Ziegrif wrote...

parico wrote...
Xbox lets you message anyone.  Isn't the bonus of 10000 at the end of the match divided between all 4 players so ie 2500 each.  We only got 5k for partial since he ran to extraction right away and got insta killed by phantom when we were trying to kite the enemies away.  The map and enemy were chosen so that lowers your possible exp quite a bit too. 

I'm pretty sure it's the same type of score bonus as the normal 25, 50, 75 kills and it's a solid 10k for everyone no division.
At least that would explain why before wave 10 on gold peoples scores drag around 30 - 50k and then suddenly jump a lot after wave 10.
And if I'm right and ya'll completed wave 10 it's impossible for this cat to only have 10k points. Maybe 20-30k would be more on the point if dis guv was shooting things the entire game.

He was there all 11 waves and his score was 10500 something it was barely 3000 in wave 9  when I looked at it.  I had 95k other guy had 91k 3rd guy had 55k.  I once scored 16k on gold when I first played so its possible to be That bad.  I found when I do uug I can get 110-120k on a good game when map and enemy are picked I rarely break 90k with same characters so it does seem to affect it. His only medal was 25 assists and he bleed out early every wave.  He'd shadow strike across map get killed maybe revived then do it again so by wave 5 we just quit trying getting him up.  In later waves phantoms seemed to instakill him right away almost every wave.

[Destructo-Bot]

Lowest scores I remember seeing are under 30k:

Modifié par Destructo-Bot, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:46 .

[ryoldschool]

parico wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

parico wrote...
Xbox lets you message anyone.  Isn't the bonus of 10000 at the end of the match divided between all 4 players so ie 2500 each.  We only got 5k for partial since he ran to extraction right away and got insta killed by phantom when we were trying to kite the enemies away.  The map and enemy were chosen so that lowers your possible exp quite a bit too. 

I'm pretty sure it's the same type of score bonus as the normal 25, 50, 75 kills and it's a solid 10k for everyone no division.
At least that would explain why before wave 10 on gold peoples scores drag around 30 - 50k and then suddenly jump a lot after wave 10.
And if I'm right and ya'll completed wave 10 it's impossible for this cat to only have 10k points. Maybe 20-30k would be more on the point if dis guv was shooting things the entire game.

He was there all 11 waves and his score was 10500 something it was barely 3000 in wave 9  when I looked at it.  I had 95k other guy had 91k 3rd guy had 55k.  I once scored 16k on gold when I first played so its possible to be That bad.  I found when I do uug I can get 110-120k on a good game when map and enemy are picked I rarely break 90k with same characters so it does seem to affect it. His only medal was 25 assists and he bleed out early every wave.  He'd shadow strike across map get killed maybe revived then do it again so by wave 5 we just quit trying getting him up.  In later waves phantoms seemed to instakill him right away almost every wave.

Was he a level 20 shadow?   Its almost impossible not to kill stuff with the shadow vs cerberus, but maybe he did not have it speced correctly.    Yesterday we played with a level 4 se - his first time in gold, an N7 of 27 or something like that.   We tried to talk him out of that character, but we did not kick him.   We got a partial extraction, but on wave 9 he only had about 15K points.   He was trying - using gels and rockets, helping with objectives, but his guns were low level starter weapons, yet he still did better than that guy in your match.  Maybe he was just a bad player?

[Star fury]

Unless that player joined on late wave(9-10), it's impossible to get 10k points playing from teh start. You get 25 000 points bonus for finishing gold game(UUG).

Modifié par Star fury, 02 septembre 2012 - 10:48 .

[Combover James]

I would have done (and constantly do) the same thing. If someone constantly dies and can't get a decent score, they need to drop a difficulty and work out how to play their build. I can deal with low scores as long as they are actually trying (ie: doing objectives, reviving, not constantly dying, etc.), or the flip where someone can dish out some serious damage and has high points but goes down a bit more frequently (high risk, high reward). For the first, it shows that the player has ability just not enough skill. The latter shows that the player has skill and is working on the build. Dying a lot and having a low score shows inexperience and lack of ability for the given difficulty. That is a kick for me.

[DJ CAVE SLAVE]

I never vote to kick people. If there's a group of people that aren't cooperating, or just are very bad, I'll just leave the lobby. I just think kicking people is pretty douchey.

[Swarlos1713]

I think what you did is fine, it's your gaming experience and your time so if you don't want to play with aomeone like that then it's your prerogative. If someone wants to give gold a shot but realizes after a match they're in over their head and reduces difficulty, that's fine. If they're on their own program and showing no interest in helping the team, then they can play with someone else who's willing to tolerate it.

Sometimes when my friends and I need a fourth and get a random like this we'll try talking to them and give them pointers and see if they listen. If they do and show an effort in improving and playing as part of the team, they can stay. If not, then we'll ask them to leave before we kick.

[Stabby Badger]

MajorStupidity wrote...

OP you were in the right

1.) either that guy was not ready for gold and there is no excuse for that he can either deal with getting kicked when he under-performs and run around leeching, or he can go down to silver/bronze. (RNG sucks sorry he cant get credits fast on lower difficulties)

2.) He had a bad game, in which case he should either send you a message explaining what went wrong, or if he can not even be bothered to plead his case he should leave and find another lobby.

3) It was a little kid playing who didn't completely understand what was going on.

I let my little brother play on my account sometimes (I always set it to bronze for him, though.)  He is beyond terrible and I wouldn't be surprised if he's been kicked from a few bronze games.  But he's just a kid, he has fun playing it so I let him.  I'm sure other people let their too-young siblings/kids play too.

[LuckyBullet95]

Ziegrif wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...
1) No it is a squad bonus. Whether it is divided or not I don't know but you only get 10k period.
2) More likely reason is that everyone rockets Wave 11. Seriously no one ever rockets when it is actually useful in PUGs. If I'm "dragging" down there it's a quick run and I never end up getting revives or much of any medals. I have what I killed with rockets and not much else. In PUGs however I'm often over 100k and doubling 2nd place's score.
3) If he already saw that he got 10k and you're saying he can't if you're right then you are clearly wrong... or OP is a troll.

1. So everyone gets 10k. That's what I was trying to find out thanks for that.

2. Seen this aswell usually I don't mind if pugs used 1 rocket in wave 11... 5 is pushing it. And have been in the rocket score yadda yadda situation.

3. So if I'm right I'm also wrong... what? HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?!

Also I've never seen anyone score as low as 10k while trying for 10 waves unless they came in during extraction or wave 10. Not since the leech-o-time meter update came.

1) No it is a flat 10k that everyone gets. It isn't 10k per person. I'm just saying you get 10k period. That's it. Whether it is shared 2.5k apiece is something I do not know. I always just assumed it was applied after the match. I've never seen my 40k score jump to 50 after Wave 10.

2) Public games are the only challenging thing left... and I use that word lightly...

3) Already clarified. My apologies if there was a mix up. If I'm proved wrong I'll admit it but from observation I don't notice anything large scoreboard-wise.

4) I haven't seen it either with the exception of a leecher. Though if this guy was a Bronze player pulled up to Gold by a friend it might explain it. Silver to Gold is a big enough jump but Bronze to Gold is something that shouldn't be done. Given how one guy didn't kick, and even defended him, it makes sense that he was a noob who was getting "leeching" levels and creds from his friend.

[Ziegrif]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...
1) No it is a flat 10k that everyone gets. It isn't 10k per person. I'm just saying you get 10k period. That's it. Whether it is shared 2.5k apiece is something I do not know. I always just assumed it was applied after the match. I've never seen my 40k score jump to 50 after Wave 10.

2) Public games are the only challenging thing left... and I use that word lightly...

3) Already clarified. My apologies if there was a mix up. If I'm proved wrong I'll admit it but from observation I don't notice anything large scoreboard-wise.

4) I haven't seen it either with the exception of a leecher. Though if this guy was a Bronze player pulled up to Gold by a friend it might explain it. Silver to Gold is a big enough jump but Bronze to Gold is something that shouldn't be done. Given how one guy didn't kick, and even defended him, it makes sense that he was a noob who was getting "leeching" levels and creds from his friend.

1. Welp I'll admit. I have no idea. We'd need to ask a dev for that info or someone with better knowlegde.

2. Depends on the team. I've pugged since day 1. So IMO it's easy.

3. Destructo-bots screenies are enough proof for me that under 20k is possible. So this might have some truth to it aswell. Still sounds ridiculous though. 10.5k points 25 assists so he would have had some pretty low assist scores aswell and maybe a kill or 2. but we can't be that certain without a pic or info about the Gold completion exp badge. There's also a possibility of disconnection and reconnection during teh game resetting the score. I've had many games where I hadn't noticed a missing team mate.

Might be hyperbole aswell.

4. Another plausible solution to the dilemma. Sounds awful though. In games if you didn't earn it yourself it's close to worthless IMO. Reason why I don't accept ''gifts'' in mmos.

[Cohen le Barbare]

parico wrote...

I played a pug gold game yesterday and the shadow on our team had 10000 score and thier only medal was 25 assits so I tried to kick him.  Got 2 votes but other guy wouldn't budge so I left lobby I was hosting and started a new one.  One guy, not the one I wanted to kick sends me message saying I am dick for not letting the other guy stay and quiting as host.  I don't get it if somoene cant even get 25 kills wouldnt we be better of just playing with 3 people anyway.  This guy died 2 times per round then beleeds out. He never gelled  or used a missle.  He was never near the rest off the team.   So what if he switched to an adept the rest of the team was tech so that wasn't gonna help anyway.  I figured a 1 game gamble was enough why risk it again.    

I had the same thing earlier today. The guy score 18k and we lost a team mate at wave 2 and he was never replaced. We pulled through, dying at wave 10 right after the creds, but the last guy didn't use medigel, never bothered to rez either one of us. He was here for the credits... Too bad there isn't a way to block such players from entering my lobby.

[silencekills]

 He deserved it. Something is very, very, very wrong if your scoring THAT low in gold. Seriously, with all those enemies, how can you possibly score so low?

[Shadohz]

Road Wulf wrote...

parico wrote...

Road Wulf wrote...

Basically:

If you don't want to play with Randoms, play with friends, otherwise don't **** about how they play.

Funny are your friends on every single time you are? 

No, but I don't ever **** at other people or try to kick them if they're actually trying.

Trying isn't good enough. If you have no business on Platinum or Gold, then stay on Bronze/Silver. If you're not clearing a game AT LEAST 40K in kills and 3 medals, then you're sponging or do not have sufficient gear or skill for that difficulty.

As I told the last round of newbies that decided to host a Platinum game and got me killed and literally out of consumables before the end of Wave 3: " If you aren't going to play the difficulty the right way, as a team and using missiles on objectives, then set your game to private or take your *ssess back to bronze. Don't waste other players time or consumables hoping they carry you so you get some credit without effort."

Funny thing is they actually had the nerve to try to kick the guy playing with 4 N7 pts after the game was over. They all bombed bled out before Wave 3 was half over. The only reason it got completed was because I conserved my gels long enough to dodge primes. The 20K I got for my trouble isn't even worth the cost of replenishing my consumables.

Modifié par Shadohz, 03 septembre 2012 - 12:53 .

[CitizenThom]

I'm nowhere near a top player on multiplayer, and I would be hard challenged to deliberately not clear 10,000 on an extraction. How did they manage that?

[chelseascum123]

If it was me, I'd kick them and also send negative feedback through XBL.

[Leozilla]

parico wrote...

Road Wulf wrote...

Basically:

If you don't want to play with Randoms, play with friends, otherwise don't **** about how they play.

Funny are your friends on every single time you are? 

yeah pretty much

[Fierydragon30]

hostaman wrote...

Yet another thread where the class bully wants his way.

If you don't play by my rules, I'm taking my ball away.

Here's a radical idea - If you're in a game that you're not enjoying, just leave and find another one.

I mostly play on Silver (I don't last long on Gold) and today played  with a team mate who just went out on his own, didn't do the missions, and died a lot. Yes, I still revived him - he'll learn, and anyway It was still an enjoyable game.

I just wish some people would chill out

Why should you waste your time leaving the lobby when you could simply kick him.The team could have been great except that one person being a liabillity.So why waste your time looking for a GOOD lobby(You know how rare that is)when you could just kick him?

[parico]

CitizenThom wrote...

I'm nowhere near a top player on multiplayer, and I would be hard challenged to deliberately not clear 10,000 on an extraction. How did they manage that?

Easy be dead within 15 seconds of each round get revived then die again right away after a few rounds of that most smart players will stop risking it to go revive you.  I just played some silver and noticed my score only went up about 2k despite the 5000 and 2500 unknown exp bonuses for wave 10 complete so I think that exp is shared between all teammates like killstreaks.  Even if he had 30k getting only 25 assists in a gold game is not worthy of a 2nd game with me no matter what your n7 rank.  Most players can manage to at least get 25 kills and 50 assists.

[A MIAOW]

For me, it is depends.

If my team is good enough to carry a less-actived player for win u/u/g. I don't care.

Maybe Even I need him to make sure there are something leave to me....

If everybody is too good, I may get nothing to do.

But if we fail because someone uncumered us. I have no choice to kick him.

Modifié par A MIAOW, 03 septembre 2012 - 02:03 .

[Sinapus]

Ziegrif wrote...

More importantly how the hell is it possible to get only 10k points on gold?

Completing wave 10 is 10k points ffs.

I know. I mean, I was in a Gold match on dagger vs Cerberus a month or so ago with a human female engineer. I ended up with a lot more than that even though I got a lot of assist points. Was launching exploding/chain attack combat drones into the rear of enemy groups, overloading shields/barriers and firing area-effect incinerate at targets. It added up. I'm not that great on Gold, but I can at least do that.

[knightshieldatr]

Sounds like a leecher. Doing the bare minimum so he wouldn't get auto-kicked.

[Iggister]

The thing I hate most is when I get sync-killed on wave 9/10 (like on hack objectives), and the leecher somehow ends up being the last one left or one of two, and of course as I look on he/she miracously fails to do anything, including using gel or rockets.

If Banshees and Phantoms could go aggro on the lowest scoring player on late waves, that would be great.

[Jesse]

Bout the only time I ever vote to kick is if someone is taking a looong time to ready up in the lobby, even then I'll more often than not leave and find another lobby instead. I never kick based on in-mission performance, even those times i've seen someone pretty much camp in the EZ and fire off a shot every now and then to avoid being auto-kicked.

Which made my surprise at getting kicked from a gold lobby on Saturday night even more. This was after just completing a successful gold extraction, i was 2nd on the board, playing as Geth Engineer (Lvl 20, Scorpion III weapon), drop out of the mission debrief screen to see 3 red crosses appear on my name, one after the other and saying to myself "What the F$#@???" as I got the "You were kicked..." message. Stared blank face, jaw dropped for a few seconds before getting on with things and joining another lobby. Was more the shock of it than anything else, but was kinda dumbfounded.