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[longgamma]

Immortal Strife wrote...

This game does not take much skill to be good at to be honest. I personally have never played with anyone who was goddly or overly impressive. 

I think a gold game needs some practice to prioritize enemies. Why I like ME3 is you dont need to be a pro in headshots or need godlike aiming skills like in CS to complete games. I tried CoD 2 a few weeks back, man aiming those iron sigts is a pain. You need to be a better marksman imo. 

[Immortal Strife]

longgamma wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

This game does not take much skill to be good at to be honest. I personally have never played with anyone who was goddly or overly impressive. 

I think a gold game needs some practice to prioritize enemies. Why I like ME3 is you dont need to be a pro in headshots or need godlike aiming skills like in CS to complete games. I tried CoD 2 a few weeks back, man aiming those iron sigts is a pain. You need to be a better marksman imo. 

Good aim is hardly rewarded in MP and snipers are only now becoming relevant again with the reduced shield gate; furthermore, there are no boss headshots so it's can be difficult to gauge any true skill other than tactical awareness which comes more from time and experience. A top notch ME3 player is hardly something to brag about, there is only so much an AI can do and once you have masters the techniques to win it's a wrap, game-set-match. 

[Finnegone]

Immortal Strife wrote...

This game does not take much skill to be good at to be honest. I personally have never played with anyone who was goddly or overly impressive. 

I've seen you as well as a few of the other highly regarded players make this claim (bolded, above) more than a few times in more than a few places

It's a ludicrous idea, to start - if the game required limited skill (and in this case, I presume you mean hand eye coordination - as arguably most RPGs don't require much skill in this regard), then any variation in player score would be the result of build strength, not thumb speed, and thus far more players would be like you and Ashen

More importantly, however, the statement is implicitly insulting to anyone who is anything but a natch with shooters, as it's simply another way of saying "This game is simple and unchallenging. Anyone who struggles with any aspect of the game is either stupid or thumbdumb"

You'd be better off modifying your statement in the future. People like me, whose only real experience with shooters are RPG hybrids (like ME2 and Borderlands), are likely not as well suited to picking up the MP portion of this game as, say, a seasoned GoW / Halo / BF player where many of the mechancis and core competencies (learned reflexes, situational awareness, etc) are readily transferable betwixt one MP shooter and the next

So in future, you'd be better off rephrasing this to "This game is pretty easy if you've played a lot of shooters." It's a more accurate statement, and you don't look like an elite snob when you say it

[longgamma]

The AI can defn be improved to adapt to the team setup - like mooks not rushing in open when a sniper is present in the team and forcing players to come out in the open. Anyways , its not relevant here. I do agree with you to some extent given that AI is more presictable with practice and I have memorized all spawn points

[Immortal Strife]

Finnegone wrote...
I've seen you as well as a few of the other highly regarded players make this claim (bolded, above) more than a few times in more than a few places
It's a ludicrous idea, to start - if the game required limited skill (and in this case, I presume you mean hand eye coordination - as arguably most RPGs don't require much skill in this regard), then any variation in player score would be the result of build strength, not thumb speed, and thus far more players would be like you and Ashen
More importantly, however, the statement is implicitly insulting to anyone who is anything but a natch with shooters, as it's simply another way of saying "This game is simple and unchallenging. Anyone who struggles with any aspect of the game is either stupid or thumbdumb"
You'd be better off modifying your statement in the future. People like me, whose only real experience with shooters are RPG hybrids (like ME2 and Borderlands), are likely not as well suited to picking up the MP portion of this game as, say, a seasoned GoW / Halo / BF player where many of the mechancis and core competencies (learned reflexes, situational awareness, etc) are readily transferable betwixt one MP shooter and the next
So in future, you'd be better off rephrasing this to "This game is pretty easy if you've played a lot of shooters." It's a more accurate statement, and you don't look like an elite snob when you say it

Fair enough, as far as shooters go Mass Effec 3 Mutiplayer is relatively easy when compared to other shooters. If you can for example can beat Halo legendary you should have no problem dealing with the Mass Effect enemy Ai. I'm not trying to be an elitist and I am more than willing to help out anyone here with builds and enemy fighting techniques. 

[Psycho Pisces]

I don't think I'm particularly skilled at MP, I'm just extremely aggressive mixed in with a whole heck of a lot of luck. Anger and stress feed my gaming, an apparently where I sit on the scoreboards.

Bad day? Top of the list, and reported for being aggressive.
Good day, happy with the world, or intoximacated? S'all good.. I came in last. Woot.

[Immortal Strife]

@ finnegone

Being that you are a RPG fan I imagine your strength in MP is build design which I have stated on numerous occasions is the greatest challenge in Mass Effect. I for one have promoted or respected hundreds of times to find the best builds for each character. If you want, sent me a friend request on live and we can play. My gamer tag is the same as my BSN profile name.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 03 septembre 2012 - 06:13 .

[Wannabe Fitzy]

 Just a weekend warrior type of guy, so just average, but I can lead pugs more often than not. Though lately I have been active on the forums and been playing quite a bit and useually do well with whatever I use. Not amazing, but well.

[Drummernate]

Just duo'd a Platinum... in 28 minutes.

With me and a level 480~.

Forget waiting in lobbies.

[BulletproofKevin]

Not good. I only play Silver.

Modifié par BulletproofKevin, 03 septembre 2012 - 06:14 .

[Snoopy1955]

I have let my sniping skills atrophy a bit by not playing much these past few weeks, so at the moment, I'm pretty much rubbish.

[Feneckus]

How come xbox players are the most arrogant ones ?

[RavenousBear]

I am above average but not an elite player. I still have work to do.

[Psycho Pisces]

Feneckus wrote...

How come xbox players are the most arrogant ones ?

*Checks Manifest*  Of course! Pc player...  

[robarcool]

With a few classes, I can carry on gold. I can hold my own on platinum and at times top the scoreboard, but that's about it.

[chris2365]

I would consider myself above average, but not an elite or godly. I usually top the scoreboard on Gold/Platinum with my Salarian Infiltrator with his Valiant III. I also play well as Adepts and Engineers, but Infiltrators are where I really excel. I can carry teams, but I usually cannot solo any waves at Gold or higher.

Actually, I seem to not be able to solo anything other than Bronze. Guess it requires a different skillset, and a lot of practice. Still lots of room for improvement, I guess

Modifié par chris2365, 03 septembre 2012 - 06:35 .

[Drummernate]

Feneckus wrote...

How come xbox players are the most arrogant ones ?

Because we are usually the best due to carrying noobs all day. So we deserve to be arrogant! 

PC doesn't have to worry as much about carrying since most PC players are half-way decent.

Xbox players on the other hand... there are only 2 kinds.

Totally terribly sucky, and extremely awesome.

It is easier to be good on the PC anyways since you have mouse controls. <_<

Modifié par Drummernate, 03 septembre 2012 - 06:41 .

[Gamecontact]

I'm better than normal player (I Can solo few waves of Platinum ) but I'm not like some super Elite who can solo platinum with Drellguard

[unokolo]

I am a Bronze/Silver player, who plays for fun.

[Finnegone]

Immortal Strife wrote...

@ finnegone

Being that you are a RPG fan I imagine your strength in MP is build design which I have stated on numerous occasions is the greatest challenge in Mass Effect. I for one have promoted or respected hundreds of times to find the best builds for each character. If you want, sent me a friend request on live and we can play. My gamer tag is the same as my BSN profile name.

Thanks IS - may just take you up on that when I get home this weekend

[Blarg]

 I'm probably about on par with you, OP. I can solo bronze, carry silver/gold, and can do decently on platinum with my more...controversial builds (Marksman-less turian soldier, Adrenaline Rush-less human soldier, Annihilation Field-less Fury, etc). I can't say for certain what my actual skill level is, so someone else would have to play with me to be the judge of that.

[ChurchOfZod]

I'm pretty good on Gold and ok on Platinum. I'd be a hell of a lot more successful if I played with one or two folks who ran it aggressively like I do. I'd rather clear out waves in 5 minutes by blasting spawns as a force as opposed to hiding in cover for 10 killing the enemy with bug bites.

[OmegaRex]

Finnegone wrote...

Immortal Strife wrote...

This game does not take much skill to be good at to be honest. I personally have never played with anyone who was goddly or overly impressive. 

I've seen you as well as a few of the other highly regarded players make this claim (bolded, above) more than a few times in more than a few places

It's a ludicrous idea, to start - if the game required limited skill (and in this case, I presume you mean hand eye coordination - as arguably most RPGs don't require much skill in this regard), then any variation in player score would be the result of build strength, not thumb speed, and thus far more players would be like you and Ashen

More importantly, however, the statement is implicitly insulting to anyone who is anything but a natch with shooters, as it's simply another way of saying "This game is simple and unchallenging. Anyone who struggles with any aspect of the game is either stupid or thumbdumb"

You'd be better off modifying your statement in the future. People like me, whose only real experience with shooters are RPG hybrids (like ME2 and Borderlands), are likely not as well suited to picking up the MP portion of this game as, say, a seasoned GoW / Halo / BF player where many of the mechancis and core competencies (learned reflexes, situational awareness, etc) are readily transferable betwixt one MP shooter and the next

So in future, you'd be better off rephrasing this to "This game is pretty easy if you've played a lot of shooters." It's a more accurate statement, and you don't look like an elite snob when you say it

huh? I don't see how those three games would help you out in ME. Situational awareness is in every game, so using the excuse that you only play Hybrid RPGs doesn't mean anything. It's also something you need in real life..

Also, he never said the game was easy or didn't take skill. No need to get so defensive

[Cyonan]

I like to think that I'm a rather good player.

I wont bother to compare myself to the soloers since I have no interest in attempting solo runs.

[metaempiricist]

I'm good enough that people kick me from gold/plat for scoring above 140,000 consistently while they score less than me by almost half for 2nd place..."kill stealing" they say:blink:

Modifié par metaempiricist, 03 septembre 2012 - 07:19 .